[yisman]

Pretty crazy thing to do, but I'm on tilt.


apparently I get 10% back so I get back $190.





think I lost like 15 straight hands of blackjack. it doesn't let you win. You stay against a 5 or 6, and it pops a high hand. A bunch of times I had 18s and 17s in multihand and dealer kept drawing 20.

Never hit one blackjack, despite playing over 100 hands.

[warriorfan707]

Id like to piss in the mouth of the people responsible for rigging online blackjack

[yisman]

[Dark Horse]

Those things are all rigged. Different settings. You can't win longterm, but you can 'feel the water' to get an idea of the setting. Walk away as soon as the setting reveals itself (dealer 20's, 10's on 12's, etc). This doesn't take long. And don't think for a moment it's coincidence. The easiest setting is very easy to beat, and is used to draw people in through practice mode. If you could somehow get the easiest setting in real play, that would be the day.

[yisman]

here's the funny part:

DSI has 'live blackjack tournaments'. Basically, you compete against other players all to get the highest chip count. Top 2 or 3 advance from a table of 6.

So I play them, assuming it'll go the way it does during regular blackjack. Perfect strategy, and betting the minimum each hand (10 hands, so I bet the minimum until I have to bet differently at the end).

Most other players are either betting too high, or not playing perfect strategy (often see splitting 10s, doubling down against 10s and As, doubling down on 12, surrendering on 12-14 against a 10, etc.), or both.

What happens? I don't do very well. I usually only make the second level and fail to cash.

What happens is the dealer busts at a much higher rate than it does when I'm playing in the casino myself, meaning that other players making bets that are too high, advance. Plus I see stuff like a player hitting blackjack three hands in a row (when I couldn't hit a single one over the course of losing 1900), and a player getting dealt four aces (saw three aces of spades at once, one time).

In fact, what put on me on tilt is their Punta Cana satellite. Four times I've advanced to the second level, which pits 4 head to head matchups. All four times I've lost head to head. Last night, I tied the guy and they use ridiculous tiebreakers that somehow mean I never win them.

[captrobey]

I hate online casinos so much i only give my money to Rebatewager because they do not have a casino. I have these others call me all the time but rarely deposit because it is so obvious the casinos are rigged.

[wiffle]

u mad

[yisman]

who mad?

[yisman]

Hit quad aces tonight in a leaderboard contest for let it ride.

Won $300 cash from only $30 in entries.

23:16:10
Player A♠ 6♠ A♣ Four of a kind LetItRide
Community A♦ A♥ LetItRide Pays 50x
300.00 15000.00
23:16:07
Player K♣ J♣ J♥ Two Pair LetItRide
Community T♦ K♦ LetItRide Pays 2x
300.00 600.00
23:16:02
Player Q♥ J♦ 6♦ TB TakeDown
Community K♥ K♣ TakeDown Pays 1x
300.00 100.00

[yisman]

Lost almost twice that tonight. Must've lost close to 20 hands in a row.


PlacedDescriptionWin / LossBalance11/10/2011at05:12 PM [Accrual Adjustment] 21GNet Contest WITHDRAW. 21GNET_TID: T0148864832AF51ACasino-2.003,900.1811/10/2011at07:39 PM [Accrual Adjustment] Contest Buy-InCasino
-15.003,885.1811/10/2011at08:23 PM [Accrual Adjustment] Contest RebuyCasino
-5.003,880.1811/10/2011at08:32 PM [Accrual Adjustment] Contest RebuyCasino
-5.003,875.1811/10/2011at08:41 PM [Accrual Adjustment] Contest RebuyCasino
-5.003,870.1811/10/2011at09:16 PM [Casino] Blackjack Single HandCasinoGame-3,765.50104.68

[CarloTwoGuns]

Damn you got like 234234 badges in your sig lol ..

[PAULYPOKER]

Serves ya right................

[yisman]

no Pauly, it would serve you right, though.

[appleman]

online casino are fcking rigged just like bodog they say they are not but the are stay away

[visualrealism]

Lost $800 real money in craps table. Man i fuckked chased hard!

[chipper]

I wonder if there are any online casinos that offer the player a fair gamble? It sure doesn't seem like it...

[Ellivennecq]

That's pretty sad.

[xxxvince]

all online casino is rigged.. surprised u dont know it by now

[Bulldog-53]

We all seem to be aware of the deck stacked against us in an online casino, yet many, much like myself cannot stay away.

[xelemental]

try the live dealer on fivedimes or Legends

[yisman]

I can confirm that blackjack at SBR is as bad as DSI, if not worse.

700 max bet.

I lost over 30,000 points in the span of under an hour yesterday.

Repeatedly doubled on 10 or 11 vs. 4-7, repeatedly got dealt a low card while dealer drew to 20 or 21. Rarely busted. Dealer started with ace again and again.

10s would not come on dd, only when I was hitting with a 12-14.

Odds of losing that many points that quickly playing perfect strategy...

small enough to disregard entirely, meaning that these casinos are not even close to being fair.

[Gilly86]

30k in an hour? Jesus. What's your bankroll

[yisman]

34,000 was my bankroll. All gone.

Internet / 0 CASINO BlackJack Singlehand
CasinoGame 10.00
12/14/2011 07:09 PM
Internet / 0 CASINO BlackJack Multihand
CasinoGame 383.50
12/14/2011 10:34 PM
Internet / 0 CASINO Three Card Poker
CasinoGame -90.00
12/15/2011 02:34 PM
Internet / 0 CASINO (VP) Aces & Eights
CasinoGame -330.00
12/15/2011 02:53 PM
Internet / 0 CASINO BlackJack Multihand
CasinoGame -34196.00
12/15/2011 04:05 PM

[ShawNee922]

Find a different hobby bruh ...

[Maleku]

Stick to sports wagering?

I like to play casino games sometimes myself... but that is what betpoints are for.

I wouldn't drop a dime of my hard earned sports wagering money on anything casino related.

[Rockets2200]

lost 900 at legendz blackjack after dealer hit 5 blackjacks in a row

[Canucks121]

out of 100 hands, I won 12. I counted. I would double 10 and get 20 while the dealer is showing a bust card and they would make 21 like it was going out of style, I noticed whenever the dealer has a bust card 8/10 times they would get an ace and another small card. Nice rigged casino sbr

[Dark Horse]

BJ comes with different settings. They can change the setting on you anytime. If they want your money they'll steal it, all the time telling themselves that it's well within the rules of the game.

[ycchai]

i never win in long term, i have only win some in live casino.

[rickie65]

the only real $$ I ever put in an online casino anymore is on the DSI instant blackjack. minimum $1 to start, usually win $5 or $10 within a 5 minute stretch and then walk away quickly! whenever I've played $5 or $10 hands I lose right away. I know they'll kill me if I play more than 5-10 minutes so I grab small small $ and get a brief little gaming fix in. do it almost daily and win more than not.

[Samson420]

Stick to the brick n mortar casinos if you want to play BJ or whatever. Stay away from online casino.

[yisman]

more of the same at DSI, just the last 50 I played. There was even more of this before, playing perfect strategy.

23:31:48	Player Hand 15 5♥ J♠ Stand Dealer Hand 18 3♥ 2♦ 9♥ 4♠ Hit, Hit, Stand	15.00	-15.00
23:31:44	Player Hand 22 2♠ K♦ T♣ Hit, Bust Dealer Hand 20 Q♠ K♦	25.00	-25.00
23:31:38	Player Hand 13 2♠ A♥ Q♣ Hit, Stand Dealer Hand 20 4♠ 2♠ 3♣ A♦ Hit, Hit, Stand	25.00	-25.00
23:31:33	Player Hand 17 7♠ 2♣ 8♣ Hit, Stand Dealer Hand 22 3♠ Q♠ 9♠ Hit, Bust	25.00	25.00
23:31:28	Player Hand 22 2♠ J♦ 4♦ 6♥ Hit, Hit, Bust Dealer Hand 15 5♠ J♣	25.00	-25.00
23:31:24	Player Hand 15 K♣ 5♠ Stand Dealer Hand 23 J♥ 6♥ 7♣ Hit, Bust	25.00	25.00
23:31:22	Player Hand 16 6♦ Q♥ Dealer Hand 21 A♣ Q♣ BlackJack	25.00	-25.00
23:31:14	Player Hand 18 2♣ 3♦ 8♠ 3♥ 2♥ Hit, Hit, Hit, Stand Dealer Hand 21 6♣ T♣ 5♦ Hit, Stand	25.00	-25.00
23:31:04	Player Hand 18 6♠ 3♥ 2♠ 5♠ 2♦ Hit, Hit, Hit, Stand Dealer Hand 19 7♣ 9♦ 3♥ Hit, Stand	25.00	-25.00
23:30:59	Player Hand 26 6♦ 3♦ 7♣ T♥ Hit, Hit, Bust Dealer Hand 18 K♦ 8♦	25.00	-25.00
23:27:36	Player Hand 1 12 2♠ Q♠ Stand 25.00 -25.00 Player Hand 2 17 2♣ 7♥ 8♣ Split, Double 50.00 -50.00 Dealer Hand 20 4♠ 6♦ J♠ Hit, Stand	75.00	-75.00
23:27:32	Player Hand 15 5♦ J♦ Surrender Dealer Hand 20 T♥ K♦	25.00	-12.50
23:27:28	Player Hand 13 J♣ 3♥ Stand Dealer Hand 18 2♠ 6♠ J♣ Hit, Stand	25.00	-25.00
23:27:23	Player Hand 15 Q♦ 5♠ Stand Dealer Hand 18 2♠ 4♦ 3♠ 2♥ 7♠ Hit, Hit, Hit, Stand	25.00	-25.00
23:27:20	Player Hand 14 T♥ 4♦ Stand Dealer Hand 19 Q♠ 5♦ 4♠ Hit, Stand	25.00	-25.00
23:27:09	Player Hand 17 7♦ J♥ Stand Dealer Hand 25 T♠ 4♠ 2♠ 9♠ Hit, Hit, Bust	25.00	25.00
23:27:06	Player Hand 7 4♦ 3♥ Dealer Hand 21 J♥ A♣ BlackJack	25.00	-25.00
23:26:59	Player Hand 26 K♦ 3♦ 3♣ J♥ Hit, Hit, Bust Dealer Hand 12 A♣ A♦	25.00	-25.00
23:26:55	Player Hand 17 9♠ 8♥ Stand Dealer Hand 17 K♥ 5♥ 2♥ Hit, Stand	25.00	.00
23:26:49	Player Hand 20 J♠ J♠ Stand Dealer Hand 19 T♥ 9♥ Stand	25.00	25.00
23:26:46	Player Hand 20 J♥ Q♣ Stand Dealer Hand 18 8♠ Q♦ Stand	25.00	25.00
23:26:42	Player Hand 12 5♠ 4♥ 3♣ Double Dealer Hand 20 5♦ 5♣ Q♦ Hit, Stand	50.00	-50.00
23:26:36	Player Hand 17 5♥ 2♦ T♠ Hit, Stand Dealer Hand 18 8♥ J♠ Stand	25.00	-25.00
23:26:32	Player Hand 22 J♠ 2♦ Q♠ Hit, Bust Dealer Hand 14 4♦ J♠	25.00	-25.00
23:26:28	Player Hand 15 5♣ 5♠ 5♠ Double Dealer Hand 18 8♣ 5♣ 2♣ 3♣ Hit, Hit, Stand	50.00	-50.00
23:26:24	Player Hand 17 7♦ A♦ 9♠ Double Dealer Hand 21 2♦ 5♠ 2♠ 2♣ K♠ Hit, Hit, Hit, Stand	50.00	-50.00
23:26:18	Player Hand 21 A♦ 4♥ 8♣ 8♦ Hit, Hit Dealer Hand 18 5♥ 9♠ A♥ 3♣ Hit, Hit, Stand	25.00	25.00
23:26:07	Player Hand 1 13 6♠ 7♠ Stand 25.00 -25.00 Player Hand 2 13 6♣ 3♣ 4♥ Split, Double 50.00 -50.00 Player Hand 3 17 6♥ A♥ K♠ Split, Double 50.00 -50.00 Dealer Hand 20 2♥ 6♠ 7♣ 5♦ Hit, Hit, Stand	125.00	-125.00
23:26:03	Player Hand 12 K♥ 2♠ Stand Dealer Hand 25 K♠ 5♦ K♠ Hit, Bust	25.00	25.00
23:26:00	Player Hand 21 A♦ J♣ BlackJack Dealer Hand 20 K♦ J♣ Stand	25.00	37.50
23:25:56	Player Hand 18 Q♦ 8♦ Stand Dealer Hand 23 3♦ 3♦ 2♠ 5♥ J♣ Hit, Hit, Hit, Bust	25.00	25.00
23:25:49	Player Hand 21 2♥ K♣ 3♦ 6♣ Hit, Hit Dealer Hand 20 J♠ Q♣ Stand	25.00	25.00
23:25:47	Player Hand 21 Q♣ A♥ BlackJack Dealer Hand 15 8♥ 7♦ Stand	25.00	37.50
23:25:43	Player Hand 18 Q♣ 8♠ Stand Dealer Hand 17 8♦ 9♥ Stand	25.00	25.00
23:25:37	Player Hand 18 3♠ 5♠ K♣ Hit, Stand Dealer Hand 25 6♠ 6♠ 3♦ J♥ Hit, Hit, Bust	25.00	25.00
23:25:33	Player Hand 18 9♦ 2♠ 7♠ Double Dealer Hand 20 J♦ K♥ Stand	50.00	-50.00
23:25:29	Player Hand 13 3♠ T♥ Stand Dealer Hand 24 2♦ 5♠ 7♣ 2♠ 8♠ Hit, Hit, Hit, Bust	25.00	25.00
23:25:23	Player Hand 21 7♠ 3♥ A♥ Hit Dealer Hand 25 A♠ A♥ 5♠ 8♣ T♦ Hit, Hit, Hit, Bust	25.00	25.00
23:25:19	Player Hand 15 Q♦ 5♥ Surrender Dealer Hand 13 3♠ K♦	25.00	-12.50
23:25:15	Player Hand 12 2♥ T♠ Stand Dealer Hand 20 4♣ 6♠ Q♣ Hit, Stand	25.00	-25.00

[yisman]

and then this. Note what happens on every double down. There are no 10 cards in the deck.

08:09:20	Player Hand 15 5♦ Q♠ Stand Dealer Hand 21 T♣ 6♠ 5♥ Hit, Stand	4.00	-4.00
08:09:11	Player Hand 12 7♣ 4♥ A♥ Hit, Stand Dealer Hand 18 4♦ 4♦ 5♠ 5♣ Hit, Hit, Stand	5.00	-5.00
08:09:07	Player Hand 18 8♣ Q♠ Stand Dealer Hand 21 8♦ 2♠ A♦ Hit, Stand	5.00	-5.00
08:09:02	Player Hand 20 K♣ J♠ Stand Dealer Hand 17 7♣ Q♥ Stand	5.00	5.00
08:08:55	Player Hand 24 3♠ A♦ K♣ 2♣ 8♥ Hit, Hit, Hit, Bust Dealer Hand 18 T♣ 8♣	5.00	-5.00
08:08:49	Player Hand 18 4♣ Q♠ 4♦ Hit, Stand Dealer Hand 19 8♥ A♠ Stand	5.00	-5.00
08:08:45	Player Hand 19 Q♣ 9♠ Stand Dealer Hand 17 K♣ 7♣ Stand	5.00	5.00
08:08:41	Player Hand 20 K♣ J♣ Stand Dealer Hand 17 5♠ T♠ 2♠ Hit, Stand	5.00	5.00
08:08:33	Player Hand 23 3♠ 2♦ 3♠ 2♥ 6♠ 7♣ Hit, Hit, Hit, Hit, Bust Dealer Hand 18 J♥ 8♠	5.00	-5.00
08:08:29	Player Hand 16 T♦ 6♥ Stand Dealer Hand 17 3♣ 4♠ Q♣ Hit, Stand	5.00	-5.00
08:08:22	Player Hand 18 5♥ 8♠ 3♣ 2♠ Hit, Hit, Stand Dealer Hand 20 9♠ A♥ Stand	5.00	-5.00
08:08:18	Player Hand 15 7♠ 8♠ Stand Dealer Hand 17 2♣ 4♥ A♥ Q♠ Hit, Hit, Stand	5.00	-5.00
08:08:14	Player Hand 14 4♣ Q♥ Stand Dealer Hand 22 3♦ 4♣ 8♦ 7♣ Hit, Hit, Bust	5.00	5.00
08:08:10	Player Hand 14 8♦ 6♣ Stand Dealer Hand 21 9♥ 3♦ 9♦ Hit, Stand	5.00	-5.00
08:08:04	Player Hand 23 4♥ 2♣ 6♠ 2♠ 9♦ Hit, Hit, Hit, Bust Dealer Hand 13 3♣ T♦	5.00	-5.00
08:08:00	Player Hand 20 J♥ T♣ Stand Dealer Hand 17 7♥ J♥ Stand	5.00	5.00
08:07:56	Player Hand 20 Q♦ K♥ Stand Dealer Hand 21 J♠ 4♥ 7♣ Hit, Stand	5.00	-5.00
08:07:52	Player Hand 23 3♠ K♥ K♣ Hit, Bust Dealer Hand 11 3♥ 8♥	5.00	-5.00
08:07:48	Player Hand 19 9♥ K♣ Stand Dealer Hand 18 A♦ 4♦ K♣ 3♣ Hit, Hit, Stand	5.00	5.00
08:07:43	Player Hand 19 Q♣ 9♠ Stand Dealer Hand 20 3♠ A♥ 6♣ Hit, Stand	5.00	-5.00
08:07:39	Player Hand 20 Q♠ Q♠ Stand Dealer Hand 18 5♥ 3♦ Q♦ Hit, Stand	5.00	5.00
08:07:35	Player Hand 16 Q♠ 6♣ Stand Dealer Hand 17 8♣ 6♠ 3♦ Hit, Stand	5.00	-5.00
08:07:32	Player Hand 17 7♥ T♦ Stand Dealer Hand 21 2♦ 9♠ J♥ Hit, Stand	5.00	-5.00
08:07:28	Player Hand 22 6♣ 8♥ 8♦ Hit, Bust Dealer Hand 15 5♥ K♥	5.00	-5.00
08:07:22	Player Hand 17 3♥ 4♣ 4♠ 6♣ Hit, Hit, Stand Dealer Hand 20 Q♥ J♦ Stand	5.00	-5.00
08:07:18	Player Hand 19 4♥ 7♥ 8♠ Double Dealer Hand 20 K♣ K♠ Stand	10.00	-10.00
08:07:14	Player Hand 16 6♣ K♦ Surrender Dealer Hand 19 J♠ 9♥	5.00	-2.50
08:07:08	Player Hand 25 5♣ 2♦ 6♣ 2♣ T♦ Hit, Hit, Hit, Bust Dealer Hand 19 9♣ T♦	5.00	-5.00
08:07:04	Player Hand 22 7♣ 5♥ Q♠ Hit, Bust Dealer Hand 6 4♥ 2♥	5.00	-5.00
08:06:58	Player Hand 18 2♦ J♦ 6♠ Hit, Stand Dealer Hand 19 J♠ 9♣ Stand	5.00	-5.00
08:06:55	Player Hand 15 5♦ K♣ Surrender Dealer Hand 16 6♦ K♥	5.00	-2.50
08:06:51	Player Hand 16 K♦ 6♦ Stand Dealer Hand 17 2♥ 5♥ J♠ Hit, Stand	5.00	-5.00
08:06:46	Player Hand 16 7♠ 4♠ 5♠ Double Dealer Hand 20 5♣ 9♦ 6♥ Hit, Stand	4.00	-4.00

[mrpooh]

why do you keep playing? the only casino i've ever done well at is heritage.

[yisman]

^ Same here. I've also done well at Heritage.

As to why I keep playing, it's an addiction. After a particularly bad beat...