1. 03-14-11 11:20 AM #1
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    Pat Barry v. Kongo - on VS 4

    As much as I like Pat, I think he loses this fight. Kongo will probably get it to the ground and pound him out within 2 rounds. Barry still has not shown me any kind of ground game whatsoever. After he gets a couple of "cup chiecks" I expect him to break down. I like the fact that Barry is coming off a win and Kongo is coming off a draw. And Kongo lost two in a row before he beat Buentello. What would you expect the lines to be? Kongo as a dog would be nice!
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  2. 03-14-11 11:29 AM #2
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    Yeee buddy! Kongo all way for me, doubt he'll be dog but I expect will be no worse than -150.
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  3. 03-14-11 11:32 AM #3
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    Very nice, and as if betting against Barry wasn't enough, Kongo needs a win badly to stay relevant and maybe even to keep his job.
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  4. 03-14-11 11:34 AM #4
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    I think I would take Kongo up to -160.
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  5. 03-14-11 11:36 AM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poppa Catfish View Post
    Very nice, and as if betting against Barry wasn't enough, Kongo needs a win badly to stay relevant and maybe even to keep his job.
    Spot on..was just bout to say that he has 1 win in last 4 so it's not even like Barry can hope that Kongo rests on his laurels and initiates a stand-up war just to prove he's a better striker! He'll look for the clinch against the cage and takedown within opening minute in order to guarantee the victory.
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  6. 03-14-11 11:38 AM #6
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    This fight could end up going a lot like the Al-Turk fight. I really hate seeing Barry get beat up... but until he becomes a complete MMA fighter, it's pretty much inevitable against some of these guys.
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  7. 03-14-11 11:41 AM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by sirchadwick1 View Post
    I think I would take Kongo up to -160.
    Unless they hang a really soft line up there, I think we might have to take something higher than that, with little hope of people betting it down. Not an awful lot of Barry support, this isn't like the glorious Feijao/Henderson fight where people will think Barry + 140+ is a steal. I think we might have to stomach Kongo -200 (vaughany with your damn Paddy power please disregard this, you bastard)

    I won't touch it past -200, I will either find a prop or just let it be
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  8. 03-14-11 11:44 AM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poppa Catfish View Post
    Unless they hang a really soft line up there, I think we might have to take something higher than that, with little hope of people betting it down. Not an awful lot of Barry support, this isn't like the glorious Feijao/Henderson fight where people will think Barry + 140+ is a steal. I think we might have to stomach Kongo -200 (vaughany with your damn Paddy power please disregard this, you bastard)

    I won't touch it past -200, I will either find a prop or just let it be
    ha -200 will be my limit as well.
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  9. 03-14-11 11:46 AM #9
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    This place is a great measuring stick though, so if there is a steady stream of people calling us retards, and that they would gladly take Barry as a medium sized dog, then we might be in luck. If everybody is on our side, I think its -200ville for us
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poppa Catfish View Post
    This place is a great measuring stick though, so if there is a steady stream of people calling us retards, and that they would gladly take Barry as a medium sized dog, then we might be in luck. If everybody is on our side, I think its -200ville for us
    ha yeah, if sportbet/5dimes release the lines we might be in luck and get a similar Schaub/CC line opener, if it's bookmaker as usual who set the line then a lot more likely to be -200 or worse.
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  11. 03-14-11 03:49 PM #11
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    Have to go with Kongo because of the wrestling and GNP. I don't think he will be a big favorite judging by the Barry/Beltran line.
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    i actually think kongo will be the dog, but we will see
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  13. 03-14-11 04:31 PM #13
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    Kongo by decision. Barry has looked terrible why would he be the favorite?
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  14. 03-14-11 05:31 PM #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by LearningTree View Post
    Have to go with Kongo because of the wrestling and GNP. I don't think he will be a big favorite judging by the Barry/Beltran line.
    I agree, Kongo's going to do a lot of GNP. Barry will accept all of Kongo's takedowns.
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  15. 03-14-11 07:22 PM #15
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    Kongo is just more well-rounded. On the feet, it could go either way, but if Kongo is smart he works the GNP, like some of you said.
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    i wouldn`t bet any props until we learn whether barry "befriends" kongo.....
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  17. 03-14-11 11:02 PM #17
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    I love kickboxing yet I don't give a shit about this fight. At least we will see some highlight reel nut shots.
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  18. 03-15-11 12:37 AM #18
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    The silverback gorilla will have trouble against barry.
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  19. 03-15-11 01:19 AM #19
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    I was hoping Kongo would get match up with Matt Mitrione.
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    mitrione vs struve!
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  21. 03-15-11 03:17 AM #21
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    kongo via gnp tko. against guys who cant wrestle, kongo tds are pretty significant.
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  22. 03-15-11 01:11 PM #22
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    Kongo for the win! Barry is a funny dude, cant dislike him. Theres lots of videos and pictures circulating on the web of him and Skyskrape from the Tapout crew doing some crazy shit.



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  23. 03-17-11 08:08 PM #23
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    I'll take a shot with Barry if he gets to +140 or better. Dude's got those nasty leg kicks and Kongo might be stupid enough to stand with him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snake11eyes View Post
    I'll take a shot with Barry if he gets to +140 or better. Dude's got those nasty leg kicks and Kongo might be stupid enough to stand with him.
    Tis possible....but Kongo didnt even bother standing with an inferior striker in Buentello and was relentless with his takedowns. Also, though less relentless with the takedowns, the situation was similar against Hardonk and Evensen who he took down 2 or 3 times before finishing with GNP.
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  25. 04-01-11 01:04 PM #25
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  26. 04-01-11 02:06 PM #26
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    Barry win this easy by TKO in the 1st!
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  27. 04-01-11 02:07 PM #27
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    I think Kongo -200 or better is very good. We should start some Barry propaganda to inflate the line.
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