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    WEC 35: August 3rd

    WEC 35: AUGUST 3RD IN LAS VEGAS
    Hard Rock Hotel & Casino

    Main Card Bouts:
    -Carlos Condit vs. Hiromitsu Miura
    -Jamie Varner vs. Marcus Hicks
    -Brian Stann vs. Steve Cantwell
    -Brian Bowles vs. Damacio Page
    -Micah Miller vs. Josh Grispi

    Preliminary Bouts:
    -Cub Swanson vs. Hiroyuki Takaya
    -Brock Larson vs. Carlo Prater
    -Blas Avena Vs. Dave Terrel
    -Kenji Osawa vs. Scott Jorgensen
    -Greg McIntyre vs. Mike Budnik
    -Todd Moore vs. Alex Karalexis

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    solid card looking foward to see Varner vs Hicks

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMAJOE View Post
    solid card looking foward to see Varner vs Hicks
    Waiting for the line on that fight. I'll take Hicks if he is + anything.

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    Hicks will be a slight underdog. Both good fighters.Very tough to call Varner is Well rounded fighter striking/wrestling and decent JJ . Hicks is a little pitbull with heavy hands and super tight chokes and great JJ they dont call him the wrecking ball for nothing.

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    should be a good one.

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    micah miller always looks so awkuard when he fights

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    Has anyone seen odds posted yet for these fights?

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    With WEC they mostly dont post odds till a few days before the fight .I am guessing the odds will be out Thursday or Friday.

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    Where do you guys go to get information on these guys

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    I love watching the fights, but I don't know where to get their fight stats

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    I just spoke to someone from 5Dimes. They said that they will have odds for WEC 35 and the Icon Hard Times event, which will be the night before. However, he said that he was not sure when the lines would be up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cappy View Post
    Where do you guys go to get information on these guys
    www.wec.tv
    -this will give some fighter info and fight record in the WEC

    www.ufc.com
    -this also gives some info and UFC fight record

    Other good MMA sites:
    www.sherdog.com
    www.mmaweekly.com
    www.mmajunkie.com

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    Are there any good podcasts/radio shows or sites that you know of that break down the fights for most events? I've looked around and I have found a few but their picks/write-ups seem very biased.

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    cant find reliable stats for these

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    should be good fights though

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    The lines are up on BetCris for WEC 35.

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    7:30 PM 32531 HIROMITSU MIURA +425
    32532 CARLOS CONDIT -575

    7:00 PM 32533 STEVE CANTWELL +285
    32534 BRIAN STANN -355

    6:40 PM 32535 MARCUS HICKS +160
    32536 JAIMIE VARNER -200

    6:00 PM 32537 DAMACIO PAGE +190
    32538 BRIAN BOWLES -240

    6:00 PM 32539 JOSH GRISPI +145
    32540 MICAH MILLER -175

    5:00 PM 32541 CARLO PRATER +255
    32542 BROCK LARSON -315

    4:00 PM 32543 BLAS AVENA +135
    32544 DAVE TERREL -165

    3:00 PM 32545 SHANE ROLLER +165
    32546 TODD MOORE -205

    3:00 PM 32547 GREG MCINTYRE +160
    32548 MIKE BUDNIK -200

    3:00 PM 32549 SCOTT JORGENSEN +155
    32550 KENJI OSAWA -195

    Odds from bookmaker/betcris , will wait for weigh ins to make my wagers

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    Here are my leans (no official plays yet)

    ICON Sport: Hard Times

    Phil Baroni vs Ron Verdadero
    Kala Hose vs Rolando Dominique
    Bao Quach vs Mark Oshiro
    Hideto Kondo vs Sidney Silva

    WEC 35
    Carlos Condit vs Hiromitsu Miura
    Brian Stann vs Steve Cantwell
    Jamie Varner vs Marcus Hicks
    Brian Bowles vs Damacio Page
    Josh Grispi vs Micah Miller
    Brock Larson vs Carlo Prater
    Blas Avena vs Dave Terrel
    Shane Roller vs Todd Moore (This fight is way to close for me to cap but I'd lean with Moore just because he has more experience and all of Rollers past opponents have never won a fight)
    Greg Mcintyre vs Mike Budnik
    Kenji Osawa vs Scott Jorgensen

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    Quote Originally Posted by UndisputedGblr View Post
    Here are my leans (no official plays yet)

    ICON Sport: Hard Times

    Phil Baroni vs Ron Verdadero
    Kala Hose vs Rolando Dominique
    Bao Quach vs Mark Oshiro
    Hideto Kondo vs Sidney Silva

    WEC 35
    Carlos Condit vs Hiromitsu Miura
    Brian Stann vs Steve Cantwell
    Jamie Varner vs Marcus Hicks
    Brian Bowles vs Damacio Page
    Josh Grispi vs Micah Miller
    Brock Larson vs Carlo Prater
    Blas Avena vs Dave Terrel
    Shane Roller vs Todd Moore (This fight is way to close for me to cap but I'd lean with Moore just because he has more experience and all of Rollers past opponents have never won a fight)
    Greg Mcintyre vs Mike Budnik
    Kenji Osawa vs Scott Jorgensen

    Im waiting on the ICON SPORT odds . I wont touch Baroni or Hose because they will be way to much chalk.Intrested to see what Bao Quach vs Mark Oshiro odds will be.

    Besides Hicks you have all favorites i see a few upsets happening . I agree on most of the picks but i wait for the weigh ins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMAJOE View Post
    Im waiting on the ICON SPORT odds . I wont touch Baroni or Hose because they will be way to much chalk.Intrested to see what Bao Quach vs Mark Oshiro odds will be.

    Besides Hicks you have all favorites i see a few upsets happening . I agree on most of the picks but i wait for the weigh ins.
    Scott Jorgensen is dog as well. LOL, but you are right the rest of my picks are all favorites. I think we may see at least 3 upsets. Page could easily upset Bowels and I was surprised to see him as such a big dog. Hopefully Hicks can pull the upset as well.

    I'm not making any plays until I speak with a friend of mine who is an amazing MMA capper. This guy really knows his stuff and his analysis is great.

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    Also, the lines for Icon Sport event will most likely be up on Saturday according to 5Dimes. And I agree with both your statements about Baroni and Hose. On paper Hose should easily win, but you will need to lay a lot of chalk.

    Verdadero on the other hand will give Baroni some trouble as he is a really tough guy so he won't be a push over. Moreover, Baroni has been keeping really busy and I'm certain he is not 100%. On the other hand Verdadero has not been in the right with anyone as experienced as Baroni. I will probably pass on this fight because Baroni will be a huge favorite and even though there will be value with Verdadero I just can't pull the trigger on him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UndisputedGblr View Post
    Also, the lines for Icon Sport event will most likely be up on Saturday according to 5Dimes. And I agree with both your statements about Baroni and Hose. On paper Hose should easily win, but you will need to lay a lot of chalk.

    Verdadero on the other hand will give Baroni some trouble as he is a really tough guy so he won't be a push over. Moreover, Baroni has been keeping really busy and I'm certain he is not 100%. On the other hand Verdadero has not been in the right with anyone as experienced as Baroni. I will probably pass on this fight because Baroni will be a huge favorite and even though there will be value with Verdadero I just can't pull the trigger on him.

    Hose is coming off a lose bye submission and i dont see him losing 2 times in a row in his hometown .

    I agree with you Baroni might not be 100% and just fought 1month ago in Cage Rage with a KO win in the First rnd. Phil is fighting at 170lbs now looks very lean at 170lb but he is gassed a lot in his fights over the years at 185lb,So thats telling me he could gas easy at 170lb with that extra weight he has to cut.But i still see Phil winning this one he is now trying to use his wrestling first then his striking second , before all he would do is try to brawl.He is getting a little smarter and he is training with AKA in San Jose CA.


    Ron Verdadero has a 3-5 MMA record and his 3 wins where against guys that have a total of 1-6 MMA record. He has no Submissions wins and only one TKO. Thats pretty much telling me he is not a threat to knock out Baroni or submit him. Ron Verdadero will be fight in his home state and will have the crowd behind him and might have better cardio but i dont see that being enough . Baroni TKO rnd 1

    If Verdadero gets like +600 to +1000 i might take him for a few dollars it is MMA anything can happen.

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    Looks like no Icon odds will be out for tonights event.

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    Not much to bet on with all the heavy chalk. Best bet for me is:
    HICKS +190 @ Bookmaker

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    I've got 2 units on HICKS for tonight. No other bets. MMAJOE who you got???

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