[The HOFF]

This is a 100 point MMA Handicapping Contest including the following MMA events:

UFC 123 - 11/20/10
STRIKEFORCE: Henderson vs Babalu - 12/04/10
TUF 12 Finale - 12/04/10
UFC 124 - 12/11/10
WEC 53 - 12/16/10
UFC 125 - 01/01/11

Rules of the contest:
You must make picks on every card, and must pick every fight.
Your picks must be in by the designated time.
You may not edit your picks.
You must pick one best bet for each card. (bet will count as 2x)

How to play:
Post 100 points to this post. Once odds are posted for each card, make picks on every fight and post them here or PM them to me. You will designate one bet as a best bet and it will count as 2x. Scoring will be 100 to win $$$ on underdogs and $$$ to win 100 on favorites. The poster with the highest $$$ total will win. The winner of each individual card will receive 30 points. The top 2 finishers after all 6 events will get 70% and 30% of the pot.

[Vaughany]

Good job Hoff

[snake11eyes]

Ok I'm in. Thanks Hoff

[The HOFF]

UFC 123 ODDS
*Please post number and odds with pick (2. Matt Hughes +135)
*Picks need to be in by 7PM ET 11-20-10

1. Quinton Jackson +215
1. Lyoto Machida -275

2. Matt Hughes +135
2. BJ Penn -165

3. Joe Lauzon +185
3. George Sotiropoulos -225

4. Tim Boetsch +430
4. Phil Davis -580

5. Maiquel Falcao +210
5. Gerald Harris -260

6. Matt Brown +130
6. Brian Foster -160

7. Aaron Simpson +140
7. Mark Munoz -170

8. Dennis Hallman +130
8. Karo Parisyan -160

9. Mike Lullo +300
9. Edson Barboza -500

10. TJ O'Brien +145
10. Paul Kelly -175

11. Nik Lentz +170
11. Tyson Griffin -210

[Vaughany]

1. Machida -275
2. BJ Penn -165
3. George Sotiropoulos -225
4. Phil Davis -580
5. Gerald Harris -260
6. Brian Foster -160
7. Mark Munoz -170
8. Dennis Hallman +130
9. Edson Barboza -500
10. TJ O'Brien +145
11. Tyson Griffin -210

[lasker]

I'm in, hopefully we get some more people to join!

[snake11eyes]

I'll post my picks tomorrow. I want to see the weighins before I make them.

[Kaladarus]

I'm in will be posting picks later.

[lasker]

The winner of each individual card will receive 30 points. The top 2 finishers after all 6 events will get 70% and 30% of the pot.

If everyone prefers it this way there's no problem, but my own preference would be for our results just carry over from one event to the next until the contest is finished. Otherwise, for example, imagine an extreme case where Player A wins four of the six cards with 9/11 compared to Player B's 8/11 on those same cards, but loses the remaining two cards with 0/11 compared to Player B's 11/11! Player A would still get more points at the end, which doesn't seem fair to me. That's the most extreme example, but of course the same thing could happen any number of ways.

I think it's a more accurate test of skill to keep a rolling tally of the score (total $$ earned or lost) until all six events are complete.

[Kaladarus]

30 points isn't a significant amount considering it's only 6 events and thats only 180 points. Assuming we get like 10 people that's really a very small percentage of the points.(1000points-180points=820points) This would leave 574 points for 1st of the whole thing and 246 points for 2nd of the whole thing. That's assuming we get at least 10 people which I think we should. It doesn't really matter to me though what everyone wants to do.

[jacktheknife]

If everyone prefers it this way there's no problem, but my own preference would be for our results just carry over from one event to the next until the contest is finished. Otherwise, for example, imagine an extreme case where Player A wins four of the six cards with 9/11 compared to Player B's 8/11 on those same cards, but loses the remaining two cards with 0/11 compared to Player B's 11/11! Player A would still get more points at the end, which doesn't seem fair to me. That's the most extreme example, but of course the same thing could happen any number of ways.

I think it's a more accurate test of skill to keep a rolling tally of the score (total $$ earned or lost) until all six events are complete.

I think he meant 30 betpoints and he's actually doing what you're saying, but I'm not sure.

[lasker]

That makes sense. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

[TheGovernor11]

Let's hope I don't miss an event and DQ myself this time around.

[The HOFF]

I think he meant 30 betpoints and he's actually doing what you're saying, but I'm not sure.

That makes sense. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Correct. We will keep a running total for all 6 events and the bulk of points will go to 1 and 2 from the total of all cards. The best score from every card will get 30 points. And I think I'll just combine the TUF 12 and STRIKEFORCE as one event since they are the same day and usually they only have odds for the main card of STRIKEFORCE. So a total of 150 points will be given out for the best on each card, and then the rest will be split 70%/30% between 1 and 2 overall.

This way I might be able to win back at least 30 points by luck because I admit I suck at capping a whole card.

[jacktheknife]

Won't 7pm eastern be after most of the prelims?

[The HOFF]

Won't 7pm eastern be after most of the prelims?

Bookmaker has start time 4PM PT and 5Dimes is 7PM ET.

[brooks85]

im in, i dont have any points right now but ill transfer each day until I reach 100 and ill exclude myself from winning any points on this card

[bogbat]

I would join if it was just the main card. Its too much work handicapping every fight, especially with some of the unknowns on the Strikeforce prelims.

[The HOFF]

I would join if it was just the main card. Its too much work handicapping every fight, especially with some of the unknowns on the Strikeforce prelims.

Actually, there rarely are odds on the STRIKEFORCE prelims, and last time we just did the main card fights.

[Eccocide]

im in, i dont have any points right now but ill transfer each day until I reach 100 and ill exclude myself from winning any points on this card

I'll spot brooks his remaining 88 points. Brooks, just pay me back whenever you get em.

[snake11eyes]

1. Lyoto Machida -275

2. Matt Hughes +135

3. Joe Lauzon +185

4. Phil Davis -580

5. Gerald Harris -260

6. Brian Foster -160

7. Mark Munoz -170

8. Karo Parisyan -160

9. Edson Barboza -500

10. TJ O'Brien +145

11. Tyson Griffin -210

[snake11eyes]

Lol. Sorry about that don't know what happened.

[illmatick]

1. Lyoto Machida -275
2.BJ Penn -165
3.Joe Lauzon +185 BEST BET
4. Phil Davis -580
5. Gerald Harris -260
6.Matt Brown +130
7.Mark Munoz -170
8. Dennis Hallman +130
9.Mike Lullo +300
10.Paul Kelly -175
11.Nick Lentz +170

[Vaughany]

My "BEST BET" is 8. Dennis Hallman at +130 BTW.

[The HOFF]

1. Quinton Jackson +215
2. BJ Penn -165
3. Joe Lauzon +185 (BB)
4. Phil Davis -580
5. Maiquel Falcao +210
6. Brian Foster -160
7. Aaron Simpson +140
8. Dennis Hallman +130
9. Edson Barboza -500
10. TJ O'Brien +145
11. Tyson Griffin -210

[The HOFF]

Quick UPDATE:

It looks like we have a total of 9 people. If it stays that way I think we will adjust the scoring just a touch. 25 points for best on each card, with TUF 12 and Strikeforce on 12-04-10 counting as one card together. So 125 points for best on each card. That leaves 543 points for 1st place and 232 points for 2nd place.

[Vaughany]

Quick UPDATE:

It looks like we have a total of 9 people. If it stays that way I think we will adjust the scoring just a touch. 25 points for best on each card, with TUF 12 and Strikeforce on 12-04-10 counting as one card together. So 125 points for best on each card. That leaves 543 points for 1st place and 232 points for 2nd place.

Sounds good to me Hoff

[snake11eyes]

My BEST BET is 11. Tyson Griffin -210.

[Eccocide]

1. Quinton Jackson +215
2. BJ Penn -165
3. Joe Lauzon +185
4. Phil Davis -580
5. Gerald Harris -260
6. Brian Foster -160
7. Aaron Simpson +140
8. Dennis Hallman +130 (BB)
9. Edson Barboza -500
10. Paul Kelly -175
11. Tyson Griffin -210

I suck at these btw. There's a reason I don't bet on every fight of a card!

[Eccocide]

I f'ed up. My pick is supposed to be Machida, not Rampage. If I can't change it, its cool.

[Kaladarus]

1. Lyoto Machida -275

2. BJ Penn -165

3. George Sotiropoulos -225

4. Phil Davis -580

5. Gerald Harris -260

6. Brian Foster -160

7. Aaron Simpson +140(BB)

8. Dennis Hallman +130

9. Edson Barboza -500

10. Paul Kelly -175

11. Tyson Griffin -210

[lasker]

1. Lyoto Machida -275
2. Matt Hughes +135
3. George Sotiropoulos -225
4. Phil Davis -580
5. Maiquel Falcao +210
6. Brian Foster -160 (Best Bet)
7. Mark Munoz -170
8. Dennis Hallman +130
9. Edson Barboza -500
10. Paul Kelly -175
11. Tyson Griffin -210

[The HOFF]

I suck at these btw. There's a reason I don't bet on every fight of a card!

My results on a full card make it look like I have never watched MMA before. I will be blown away if I finish anything but last.

[The HOFF]

I f'ed up. My pick is supposed to be Machida, not Rampage. If I can't change it, its cool.

I'll allow it just this once. Eccocide has MACHIDA for UFC 123 and I'll mark it when grading.

[terpkeg]

1. Lyoto Machida -275 (best bet)

2. BJ Penn -165

3. George Sotiropoulos -225

4. Phil Davis -580

5. Gerald Harris -260

6. Matt Brown +130

7. Mark Munoz -170

8. Karo Parisyan -160

9. Edson Barboza -500

10. TJ O'Brien +145

11. Tyson Griffin -210