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    Call Me Crazy, But I Love Mitrione Over Beltran Big

    Nothing for Fight Night(other than Ross as a big favorite) or UFC 119 really does it for me betting wise. But I am really confident with Meat as a small fave over Beltran. And yes, I understand that Meat has a terrible loss in recent history and two sort of cake opponents, while Beltran is 2-0 in the UFC. But stylistically, this is not a good fight for Beltran. Meat will have a lot of size on him, as well as athleticism, knockout power, and strength. Beltran is pretty much a grinder, good at no particular aspect of MMA. He has two losses on his record to a LHW, Tony Lopez. He's a terribly sloppy brawler, who really relies on an accumulation of punches to TKO his opponents and not the typical HW one punch KO ability. He also likes to lean guy's against the cage, which won't do him much help against a much stronger opponent. I think Beltran is just overmatched here.

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    i don't think ur crazy at all here. mitrione has the reach and likes to use jabs and straight bombs plus and the factor here for me if he executes is the leg kicks. he has terrific form and great power in them. hope he uses them

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddream1 View Post
    i don't think ur crazy at all here. mitrione has the reach and likes to use jabs and straight bombs plus and the factor here for me if he executes is the leg kicks. he has terrific form and great power in them. hope he uses them
    Hopefully he always uses his brain and trains to his potential!!

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    Beltran is a can but I'm still wary.

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    I don't think you're crazy, but here's why I like Beltran in this match up:

    * 15 fights vs 2 fights
    * 4 years experience vs 1 year
    * The weight difference will only be 5% or so. (239 vs 253 in their last fights)
    * Mitrione better be working his conditioning if he's going to throw bombs, because Beltran has gone 5 rounds before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KCJMAC View Post
    I don't think you're crazy, but here's why I like Beltran in this match up:

    * 15 fights vs 2 fights
    * 4 years experience vs 1 year
    * The weight difference will only be 5% or so. (239 vs 253 in their last fights)
    * Mitrione better be working his conditioning if he's going to throw bombs, because Beltran has gone 5 rounds before.
    I agree with this 100%. Beltran might lose the first round, but he's got a good chin and can potentially take the last 2 rounds. Mitrione's aggressive style could get him in trouble if the fight goes to later rounds.

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    Mitrione is the favourite.

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    im liking mitrione too but i just dont know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KCJMAC View Post
    I don't think you're crazy, but here's why I like Beltran in this match up: * 15 fights vs 2 fights * 4 years experience vs 1 year * The weight difference will only be 5% or so. (239 vs 253 in their last fights) * Mitrione better be working his conditioning if he's going to throw bombs, because Beltran has gone 5 rounds before.
    I haven't seen anything out of Beltran that makes me think he can outlast a GOOD fighter. He finished quitters in Pendergast, Houston, and Rolles. Beltran gasses himself. He just usually gasses less and is able to win. It's not like he's some cardio machine. Mitrione has a chin on him and will not give up if the fight ain't going his way.

    Mitrione is definitely bigger, stronger, more athletic, more power in his strikes, straight punches compared to Beltran's looping shots, more upside, powerful leg kicks, probably as good of heart. Damn, I love this matchup in Meat's favor. But I can't go crazy betting on a guy that has only beaten Marcus Jones and Kimbo.

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    I like Mitrione too, but not big. Beltran probably should win based on their fight footage, but it seems to me that Mitrione is a hard worker who really wants to get better in mma. He looked way better against Kimbo than he ever did on TUF. I'm expecting more improvement out of Mitrione and a quick W

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    Hard to bet against anybody who from Duke Rouffus' Milwaukee and Wisconsin camps at the moment. All of the fighters out of there show great improvement every time they fight. We've all seen how well Askren has done in Bellator, Belcher has looked better in every fight and recently choked out Cote, Showtime Pettis is one of the best lightweights out there already IMO and he's only in his early 20s. Then Pat Barry looks better every fight and was dominating Cro-Cop until he broke his hand and foot. With dudes like these to train with Mitrione should have a great camp and definitely utilise leg-kicks as his main weapon against The Mexicutioner which he's constantly working on with Barry and Rouffus. Nonetheless, -175 is a bit steep for me and I expected it to be closer to -135 to -150, as Beltran has big experience advantage. Will probly put Mitrione in a double or treble parlay, or take a Mitrione by decision prop bet.

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    Mitrione isn't quite worthy of that price tag. But, I'd throw him into a parlay nonetheless.

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    wow -175 is really steep though. i didnt know he was favored that heavily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jin2daj View Post
    wow -175 is really steep though. i didnt know he was favored that heavily.
    He's actually down to -140 on sportsbook, -150 on 5dimes, but still -175 on PaddyPower which I use. Id put a single bet on him at -140 I think.

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    ur crazy

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    Quote Originally Posted by KCJMAC View Post
    I don't think you're crazy, but here's why I like Beltran in this match up:

    * 15 fights vs 2 fights
    * 4 years experience vs 1 year
    * The weight difference will only be 5% or so. (239 vs 253 in their last fights)
    * Mitrione better be working his conditioning if he's going to throw bombs, because Beltran has gone 5 rounds before.
    Yep, he's a tank

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    Quote Originally Posted by RollPlayer View Post
    I like Mitrione too, but not big. Beltran probably should win based on their fight footage, but it seems to me that Mitrione is a hard worker who really wants to get better in mma. He looked way better against Kimbo than he ever did on TUF. I'm expecting more improvement out of Mitrione and a quick W
    Really? What makes you lean Beltran based on footage? Beltran's footage is sloppy as hell. He's never been impressive. Wild brawler without much knockout brawler facing others that gas. Mitrione showed me more in the Kimbo fight. Beltran winging looping shots, wide open, in comparison to Mitrione that at least looks like he has an idea of what he's doing at all times.

    Good point about the coaching too. Mitrione is definitely growing quick. He was in the NFL, so you can't question his athleticism.

    I just really believe had this matchup been set up after maybe one or two bouts more of Mitrione and Beltran's fights Meat would be at -350 or something. Beltran's sloppy crap may marginally get him by Tim Hague. But I feel it's in for bad news against Meat.

    I consider this matchup like Chris Tuscherer vs Brandon Schaub. One sloppy fat HW that's reached his peak against a prospect with much better striking, good training camp, and more room for improvement.

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    Yeah I agree with you most likely Mitrione will win over Beltran. The only thing I can see as a downfall for Mitrione is his gas tank. In TUF him and scott junk gasses out pretty quickly; however, he did show some improvement in the kimbo fight but still gassed a little but they were working a lot so its understandable. But good thing is that Beltran can gas as easily as seen in Hague fight. O also one more thing about mitrione is that hes got a good chin to take punches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pratik View Post
    Yeah I agree with you most likely Mitrione will win over Beltran. The only thing I can see as a downfall for Mitrione is his gas tank. In TUF him and scott junk gasses out pretty quickly; however, he did show some improvement in the kimbo fight but still gassed a little but they were working a lot so its understandable. But good thing is that Beltran can gas as easily as seen in Hague fight. O also one more thing about mitrione is that hes got a good chin to take punches.
    He's been training at 'Elite Fitness' so hopefully he will now have 'elite' fitness!

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    im liking beltran in the matchup and it helps he opened at -175. Im not sure why anyone would put much stock in the kimbo fight, kimbo is not an mma fighter and mitrione beat him with leg kicks. Beltran has been around the block against much better comp and you can't undervalue that 5 rounder against tony lopez. Matts gastank is suspect and aside from his kicks, meats hands are nothing out of the oridinary. I expect another sloppy 3 rounder with beltrans name on it.

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    i grabbed mitrione at -140..and i`m still not sure i`m keeping it........i think,despite the relative inexperience,he actually has some advantages here...size in general(height/reach/weight).....

    and he`s a lefty(an advantage in what looks to be a stand-up battle)...mitrione`s stand up looks more polished than beltran`s....

    what is worrisome is his cardio....beltran doesn`t seem to tire easily...meat does...beltran doesn`t mind taking punishment....as someone earlier said,he just grinds guys down...

    i could see beltran comfortably losing the fight,but inevitably just outlasting mitrione...

    -140 is about the max i`d lay here...

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    yeah beltran can win by just "not-losing"

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    Quote Originally Posted by jin2daj View Post
    yeah beltran can win by just "not-losing"

    what i meant was that he could easily lose rds 1 and 2 and have mitrione gas in 3.....

    seen it happen before....still holding mitrione -140...

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    Fight shouldn't have been as close as 29-28. Meat picked him apart standing all fight, but his damn crap takedown defense almost did him in again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koscheckbaby View Post
    Fight shouldn't have been as close as 29-28. Meat picked him apart standing all fight, but his damn crap takedown defense almost did him in again.

    You pegged this one.

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    good call guy.

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    Haha nice call

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    Nice. Hope you took Mitrione

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    mitrione mixed it nice.it was a good fight.

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    He did good, & looked good, he does look like he is getting better

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    mitrione is improving.... he has lot to work on (tdd, avoiding clean shots to his chin) but eventually he could be a serviceable gatekeeper...

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    yea you had to be crazy to bet on that fight. Judges easily could have been given to beltran. Mitrone has 2 pro fights...lol dumb bet.

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