[Wrecked]

Love this play, can't wait for the fight tonight!

[pouyasophy]

Love this play, can't wait for the fight tonight!

[v1y]

remember when kongo was even odds against shawn jordan? best example of square 'sharps' getting slaughtered.

[rocky16]

Say bye to your money.

[Sykes]

He could drag this fight out, get Nelson up against the cage and win on points.

[Wanna Bet On It?]

Your name is fitting TS. You're getting Wrecked tonight by an obese diabetic off his meds.

[omalley21]

Kongo by decision had crazy value at opener, i took it. Not that far fetched. Also, Roy has had so many concussions that you gotta think his chin will crack eventually as he gets older. Probably not this time, but someone, like say mark hunt (who nelson is calling out) will ko him eventually. Also I cant back anyone who doesn't take their diet seriously.

[MD]

Kongo by decision had crazy value at opener, i took it. Not that far fetched. Also, Roy has had so many concussions that you gotta think his chin will crack eventually as he gets older. Probably not this time, but someone, like say mark hunt (who nelson is calling out) will ko him eventually. Also I cant back anyone who doesn't take their diet seriously.

Pretty much. That's inevitable with most fighters. People constantly overrate chin as a factor when considering susceptibility to knockouts, technique is far more important. Far more important. Anderson Silva doesn't avoid KO's by eating punches; he let Bonnar tee off on him and simply rolled with them, taking minimal damage. There's no one in MMA with very bad striking defence who can compete at the highest level without inevitably getting knocked out. There's only so much trauma the human body can take. I'd say the ratio of importance between striking defence and chin when it comes to avoiding getting KO'd is around 80:20.

[Sacrelicious]

Pretty much. That's inevitable with most fighters. People constantly overrate chin as a factor when considering susceptibility to knockouts, technique is far more important. Far more important. Anderson Silva doesn't avoid KO's by eating punches; he let Bonnar tee off on him and simply rolled with them, taking minimal damage. There's no one in MMA with very bad striking defence who can compete at the highest level without inevitably getting knocked out. There's only so much trauma the human body can take. I'd say the ratio of importance between striking defence and chin when it comes to avoiding getting KO'd is around 80:20.

There are bizarre exceptions to this rule though.

See: Carlos Condit.

But, mostly this is correct.

[Sykes]

Nelson has way more chin than defense, he nearly got his head taken off by Dos Santos and Werdum probably the only guy in the UFC able for them kind of shots. Has to be the beard.

[Vaughany]

There are bizarre exceptions to this rule though.

See: Carlos Condit.

But, mostly this is correct.

Carlos is a freakin freak tho brahhhh! different species!

And has cardioooooo for daaaayyyyyyyyyzzz

[MD]

There are bizarre exceptions to this rule though.

See: Carlos Condit.

But, mostly this is correct.

Condit got rocked badly by Ellenberger and almost finished. Hendricks hurt him, too. For all of his reputation as a great striker, he has poor hands, and it shows. If he sticks around long enough and doesn't shore up the holes in his game, someone will KO him. Definitely a great chin though.

[shabang]

I disagree, IMO nelson is the BIG play here tonight. He's been on fire lately and he knocks out everybody he fights. I kinda thought this was a no brainer? :/ oh well, I'll be playing nelson and getting paid.

[MD]

I disagree, IMO nelson is the BIG play here tonight. He's been on fire lately and he knocks out everybody he fights. I kinda thought this was a no brainer? :/ oh well, I'll be playing nelson and getting paid.

Two bad strikers with low fight IQ, one of whom has a 9-inch reach edge and is strongly​ on the decline, and one of whom is really short and has bad cardio, and a good shot of finding the knockout, but also a good shot at being grinded against the fence for three rounds. No idea why you'd think either side is easy money.

[Kaladarus]

Your money won't be so big after the Kongo fight.

[TheCalculator]

Any one think there's value on Nelson winning by decision (at almost +700)?

Not the obvious choice -- but the fact that I think Kongo is going to run the entire time and try to avoid the the big shots. I can see the fighting going to the judges and the judges could give it to Nelson by being the aggressor.

[Grabaka]

Any one think there's value on Nelson winning by decision (at almost +700)?

Not the obvious choice -- but the fact that I think Kongo is going to run the entire time and try to avoid the the big shots. I can see the fighting going to the judges and the judges could give it to Nelson by being the aggressor.

Hmmm...kinda like it.

[MD]

Why are you all so confident in Nelson? Both of these guys are pretty bad. You're going to get horribly burned paying the juice on a guy like Nelson eventually. Nelson has bad striking, bad wrestling and only wants to brawl, all the time. Frank Mir bullied him in the clinch and avoided the knockout shot. He could easily get a ten-second KO, and he could easily get grinded against the fence for fifteen minutes.

Silly.

[Grabaka]

Oh not at all confident. But hell half a unit? Dont chu kno im loco?

[bjpenn85]

LOL

[Wanna Bet On It?]

Kongo by decision had crazy value at opener, i took it. Not that far fetched. Also, Roy has had so many concussions that you gotta think his chin will crack eventually as he gets older. Probably not this time, but someone, like say mark hunt (who nelson is calling out) will ko him eventually. Also I cant back anyone who doesn't take their diet seriously.

What you fail to account for is that even if you crack Roy's chin, he's still got two more.

[Crassus]

Kongo by decision had crazy value at opener, i took it. Not that far fetched. Also, Roy has had so many concussions that you gotta think his chin will crack eventually as he gets older. Probably not this time, but someone, like say mark hunt (who nelson is calling out) will ko him eventually. Also I cant back anyone who doesn't take their diet seriously.

Guess you'll never back the HW champ!

[mirinquads]

Yeah, come on you magnificent chocolate mountain of a man, grind this homeless blob into dust! BLACK POWER!

[mirinquads]

Or legkick him into dust at least

[CaDDyy]

Why are you all so confident in Nelson? Both of these guys are pretty bad. You're going to get horribly burned paying the juice on a guy like Nelson eventually. Nelson has bad striking, bad wrestling and only wants to brawl, all the time. Frank Mir bullied him in the clinch and avoided the knockout shot. He could easily get a ten-second KO, and he could easily get grinded against the fence for fifteen minutes.

Silly.

LOL

[Wrecked]

We'll see...

[Sacrelicious]

Why are you all so confident in Nelson? Both of these guys are pretty bad. You're going to get horribly burned paying the juice on a guy like Nelson eventually. Nelson has bad striking, bad wrestling and only wants to brawl, all the time. Frank Mir bullied him in the clinch and avoided the knockout shot. He could easily get a ten-second KO, and he could easily get grinded against the fence for fifteen minutes.

Silly.

I like Nelson in this fight a lot.

However, there is a reason why it is one of my smallest bets of the night...

[NunyaBidness]

I think if you like Nelson, your best bet is Nelson in rd 1 at +200. If he gets the KO, he likely gets it early. The longer it goes, the more nut shots Kongo can get in.

[bjpenn85]

that made me lol

[bjpenn85]

Hard to call big country a bad striker. 6 wins 6 Kos with the exact same punch

[MagicDiceFlow]

damn dude, that was a quick

[pouyasophy]

nice bet...hate to be the first one to say I told you so

[MD]

Hard to call big country a bad striker. 6 wins 6 Kos with the exact same punch

LOL.