Wow very surprising news. What do you guys think the line opens at? I say Jones -1400, I dont see one possible way that Sonnen wins.
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10-16-12 02:59 PM #1
TUF 17: Team Bones vs. Team Sonnen
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10-16-12 03:04 PM #2
I think it's closer I say Jones will be below -1000, Vitor armbar and then him actually looking human the rest of the fight... I think Sonnen got backers that will bet him no matter what just to hear him shit talk.
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10-16-12 03:10 PM #3
Yeah I probably exaggerated a bit. As big of favorite as he was vs. Belfort, I still thought Belfort had a chance for one punch ko or a hail mary submission... I dont see either of those happening vs. Sonnen and I doubt Sonnen will be able to take him down once, let alone control him for five straight rounds. I dont see how you could possibly win...
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10-16-12 03:15 PM #4
Sonnen could traingle Jones off his back in the last minute of the 5th round.
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10-16-12 03:48 PM #5
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10-16-12 03:55 PM #6
lol
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10-16-12 04:03 PM #7
looks like fans at Junkie are furious with this fight. Another "fun fight" in Dana's eyes. All cause Silva is duking Jones cause he rather fight the smaller GSP and have all his advantages again. The phony even admits it.
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10-16-12 05:14 PM #8
By this logic Bones is ducking JDS. GSP is ducking Silva. Bendo is ducking GSP.
Originally Posted by Thor4140
If Bones came out and said I want to fight Anderson and test myself instead of focking Chael Sonnen. And Anderson said no....then I would agree with you.
Bottom line is Bones said clearly he doesn't and won't fight Anderson.
You are a retard that knows nothing of MMA or the facts. You are just a spaz.
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10-16-12 05:26 PM #9
is Sonnen/Griffin off?
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10-16-12 05:29 PM #10
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10-16-12 05:53 PM #11
he is running rubber clown. Running. Originally Posted by Rubber Guard
Last edited by Thor4140; 10-16-12 at 06:10 PM.
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10-16-12 06:03 PM #12
wish they didnt release these lines so damn early. shit is 7 months away. good chance one of them gets injured and fight doesnt happen. Originally Posted by THE_LOCKSMITH
Nomination(s):This post was nominated 1 time . To view the nominated thread please click here. People who nominated: Beelzebubzy
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10-16-12 06:09 PM #13
This is one of these fights no matter how high it goes there is absolutely no value in Sonnen. Originally Posted by PunisherIND
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10-16-12 06:27 PM #14
Running from what? A guy outside his weight class? Originally Posted by Thor4140
GSP vs. Penn: GSP gets so much credit for those wins over a focking 155er. That was the last time they really did an inter-weight class mega fight. Unless you count the last second Vitor sacrifice.
You act like everyone does this mega fights. As if Cruz is about to fight Aldo. As if Aldo is about to fight Bendo. THEY DON'T HAPPEN. So why expect this to happen? Yea Anderson the 185 champ is running from the biggest 205er the UFC has ever seen. Just like Jon Jones is running from JDS.
You are little 15 year girl who most likely came over from the WWE. If matches aren't made as if Vince McMahon is running the show then you start to pout. The moment Dana White really pushes the match. Or the day Bones takes a jab at Anderson or comes out and says he would offer him a title shot....and Anderson says no....is the day all of your rambling will make one ounce of sense.
Jones says he doesn't want the fight. But the big bad THOR says he really does want the fight. Ok Mr. Thor. If you say so. Don't let what the actual fighters say get in the way of your hissy fit.
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10-16-12 06:52 PM #15
I don't know how anyone can say that Silva is "ducking" Jones. That logic is retarded. I agree Silva fighting Sonnen is stupid. I have one word.... CHRIS WEIDMAN.
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10-16-12 06:56 PM #16
It is funny how Thor man says Anderson picks fights and it is like boxing.
Jones said not long ago he did not have any interest in fighting Machida again because it did the lowest number of PPV buy for him the first time. He flat out denied Sonnen a fight, instead fought Vitor Belfort an even lower ranked MIDDLEWEIGHT. Now is fighting Sonnen anyway.
But Anderson turns down a fight with an opponent who doesn't want to fight him either. Turns down a fight never even offered to him. And its piss pants spastic party time.
Logical
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10-16-12 07:21 PM #17
listen u jackoff nobody is questioning A Silva talent. What im questioning is his appetite to fight Jones. I and the rest of MMA world know Jones said he wouldn't like to fight Anderson. Money talks. Now Silva it is a different story. He is going overboard on how he doesn't want to fight Jones. Dana basically had to beg him to give Sonnen a one dimensional fighter another chance cause he was in Andersons head. The guys Jones has beaten are ten times better than what Silva has beaten. Silva has had an advantage in every fight he has taken and fought a ton of clowns. Jones has those same advantages in his weight class. To me the only decent fighters Silva has fought in ages was Hendo and Vitor and a not ready Marquart. I really don't want to hear about how he beat Vitor in one round and Jones took 4. Those kinds of comparisons are silly. Vitor almost knocked his head ten flights up but missed by an inch then went brain dead usually like Vitor does. The bottom line is Silva can't sign a fight fast enuf with GSP coming off an injury. With Jones it is a whole other ball game. Originally Posted by Rubber Guard
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10-16-12 07:23 PM #18
jesus christmas have u seen some of his actions for cryin out loud. Originally Posted by DirtyX
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10-16-12 07:26 PM #19
I wouldn't doubt that Jones will ask Silva to help him coach (to get in Sonnens head)and u know Silva will be right there cause that means the fight with Jones will never happen
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10-16-12 07:32 PM #20
I agree. I can't think of one possible way that sonnen wins. He has no advantages anywhere Originally Posted by Thor4140
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10-16-12 07:54 PM #21
Jones can't wait to sign up for the gay ass TUF show to fight the 2nd best MW coming off beating the 4th best MW. 2 guys Anderson already beat. But Bones says he doesn't want to fight Anderson. Originally Posted by Thor4140
See how easy that is?
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10-16-12 08:08 PM #22
Oh yea, Dana had to "beg" Silva to fight Sonnen.
If I remember correctly Anderson said Chael didn't deserve a 2nd chance because he cheated in his first fight. Chael fans pissed and moaned about Silva saying such a thing. (Yet when Chael tried to poke Anderson it was "funnY') Chael claimed Anderson would never sign to fight him and he said he was going to 205 or retiring. In formation Chael fans screamed and hollered "Chael said he will never fight him and I believe it".
Anderson signs to fight him in Brazil. That falls through not because of the big world meeting going on there. But because Dana didn't want to bring Chael to Brazil. You know what? Anderson fought him anyway. Chael and his fans cried and pissed their pants for NO REASON.
Chael told all his idiot fans that Silva ducked Okami for years since his DQ upkick loss. He said he is now training Okami and Anderson refused to give him his shot after all these year. Guess what? Anderson fought Okami and made him look dumb. Chael pissed his pants FOR NO REASON.
It is weird. Some MMA fans just are so spastic. They love the drama of complaining about everything.
People stuck up for Chael when Bones said he isn't making a name off of him and doesn't deserve the fight. They bashed Jones. Now Sonnen gets the fight and those same fools say "why is Sonnen fighting Bones! that makes no sense! Anderson should fight him!
MMA fans for the most part just like to complain and act like it is UFC the video game.
You say Anderson goes out of his way to say he isn't fighting Jones. No he doesn't he gets asked focking 100 times 2 minutes after he gets done fighting. So he has to answer the damn question 100 times. He gets done whooping ass like no one else can and people demand that he has his next fight lined up. Same thing happened after the CHael fight. People spazed out because he said Weidman doesn't have much stock and that fight made little sense.
Realistically he can go to 180 and fight GSP and always move up and fight Bones as a retirement fight. He can't go to 205 win ore lose then go back down to 180..
The difference between a GSP/Anderson fight is Anderson is willing to meet in the middle. He doesn't relinquish his 185 title and it isn't fo GSP's. Bones I doubt would or could go below 205. Because he is massive.
I want to see both fights. But I'm not going to spaz out because Anderson didn't call out Bones 2 minutes after his last fight. Who is to say they won't fight next year? Dana has said things and they changed. Anderson has said things and they had changed.
I doubt we have to act like because he and Bones said they wou;dn't fight eachother that it will NEVER happen. Jones has a year or 2 to get on his high horse and say something cocky.Last edited by Rubber Guard; 10-16-12 at 08:14 PM.
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10-16-12 08:09 PM #23
2nd best middleweight? whats he have 15 losses? That is how bad 185 is. I hate to break it to you but this is about Tuff ratings and nothing more. Jones doesn't make the fights but u knew that right? There is no way in hell Sonnen comes anywhere near defeating JOnes. I think Silva was -250 the last fight against Sonnen. He is almost a ten to 1 dog now against Jones. You think if there was a Sonnen Silva three Sonnen would be anywhere near this close to a ten to 1 dog? I doubt it. A one ttrick pony inl Sonnen
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10-16-12 08:18 PM #24
woudnt bet on the main event at all look forward to the build up though sonnen always brings the ratings ans hype
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10-16-12 09:18 PM #25
Easy money! I can't see how Sonnen can beat Jones, one of the easiest fights to predict in much time, not even the hope of "one punch KO"...
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10-17-12 06:59 AM #26
Always a chance Jones comes in injured and feels the pressure to still fight. Originally Posted by caveira
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10-17-12 08:53 AM #27
During a segment on FUEL TV's "UFC Tonight," on air correspondent Ariel Helwani talked about a conversation he had with Griffin, directly after he received the news of his cancelled bout with Sonnen.
"Forrest doesn't know. I actually just spoke to him, moments ago. He said he just found out about the news, as well. He doesn't know if he'll still fight on the UFC 155 card at the end of the year, but he did have a couple interesting things to say Chael. He said, 'I don't blame Chael for taking this fight. Why work your way to the top, if you can talk your way to the top?' And he did say, somewhat jokingly, 'I'm actually glad that I'm not fighting him now, because watching his fights was so boring and tedious.'"
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10-17-12 08:54 AM #28
One of the naysayers was Sonnen's friend and sometime training partner Dan Henderson, via Twitter.
Dan Henderson @danhendo
I guess I should just quit training to win fights and to be exciting for the fans and just go to s--- talking school. @danawhite
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10-17-12 08:55 AM #29
UFC light-heavyweight champion Jon Jones has opened as a -600, or 6-to-1, favorite over upcoming opponent Chael Sonnen, who's a +400 underdog.
"The price should be higher, but given the time Chael has to prepare and adjust to the extra weight, he enters the bout in the same ballpark underdog price as Rashad Evans did against Jon Jones," said Veteran oddsmakers Joey Oddessa, who can be found at @mmaodds on Twitter. "The 'TUF' publicity along with the preview shows should help sell this fight enough to generate two-way action."
"It's pretty much a given the sportsbooks will all need Jon Jones to win on fight night, much the same way they always need Floyd Mayweather in boxing, despite his consistent domination of opponents," Oddessa said.
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10-17-12 09:10 AM #30
Joey O makes excellent points
i wonder if the tuf will move the line for Chael
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10-17-12 09:11 AM #31
dan needs to get rid of that California personality, move to NY, learn how to poop talk and get a shot at JDS Originally Posted by PunisherIND
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10-17-12 09:29 AM #32
im hoping that is the case. i was going to play bones -650 if it werent for the fact that this fight is 7 months away and i dont want my funds tied up that long. but then i was thinking, the line could possibly improve once the ufc and shale hype machine goes into effect. Originally Posted by Beelzebubzy
in any case, i dont see sonnen making it 5 rounds, so if the moneyline doesnt improve i will probably just play bones ITD.
but like i said before, theres a good chance this fight doesnt even happen, so im done wasting time thinking about it.
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10-17-12 09:32 AM #33
yep way to far off to even think about it Originally Posted by PunisherIND
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10-17-12 09:33 AM #34
Ratings should be good for TUF.
Sonnen's antics were made for being a coach on the show.
Will watch.
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10-17-12 09:50 AM #35
Interesting matchup.
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