1. 10-04-12 04:40 PM #1
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    Mike Pierce -170

    I think there is HUGE value at this line, everything aaron simpson does MIKE PIERCE DOES BETTER. I think it will come down to cardio and we've seen how simpson fades badly in the later rounds also,

    may lay the juice for sure!
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  2. 10-04-12 04:46 PM #2
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    You mean everything Pierce does, Simpson does better LOL
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  3. 10-04-12 04:48 PM #3
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    I don't know Pierce sort of only excels against guys with no wrestling background, if the guy has a wrestling background he sort of gets stalemated

    it might go to a draw or split decision
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    I thought Simpson actually got better in later rounds of his WW debut...and he's said that himself claiming that he felt stronger as fight progressed which he never had at MW. Simpson has been in their with decent Middleweights - some middleweights that used to be LHW's like Markes, Munoz, Lawlor, and Schafer and held his own. Im a big Mike Pierce fan, have backed him in a lot of fights, but IMO the value is certainly with A-Train in this one. I think Simpson gassing out in second round against Leben has left an imprint in people's minds that he has questionable cardio when Im not sure if it is fair. He is getting on in age at 38 which is one thing that worries me as you'd have to imagine has already peaked by now. People should go back and watch the Pierce/Bradley re-match were Bradley almost had success at taking Pierce down a couple of times. Simpson is a superior wrestler to Bradley and also sets his takedown's up better as he's a lot less flat-footed so he may be able to steal rounds
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imsmarterthanu View Post
    I don't know Pierce sort of only excels against guys with no wrestling background, if the guy has a wrestling background he sort of gets stalemated

    it might go to a draw or split decision
    Yep, likely to go to decision which immediately makes me want to play the underdog who arguably is the superior wrestler and is certainly bigger
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  6. 10-04-12 05:08 PM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe View Post
    You mean everything Pierce does, Simpson does better LOL
    LOL WHAT is this a joke?
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    Here we go! Another feud with Gabers about to escalate
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  8. 10-04-12 05:16 PM #8
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    Possible that pierce could catch simpson also, he does have power.
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    Yep very possible, and he is def more likely to be the one finishing the fight if it does end inside distance
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  10. 10-04-12 05:25 PM #10
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    Pierce fights inevitably go to decision, and he seems to get underscored. Tough to pick him as a favorite, IMO.
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    How can anybody think pierce has better striking than Simpson? Rofl
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    Simpson looked great at 170. I got the opener at +170.

    One of us will cash. GL
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  13. 10-04-12 09:05 PM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe View Post
    How can anybody think pierce has better striking than Simpson? Rofl
    because he does?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ermzzy View Post
    because he does?
    Not on this planet.
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    I would say he does
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    Quote Originally Posted by NunyaBidness View Post
    Pierce fights inevitably go to decision, and he seems to get underscored. Tough to pick him as a favorite, IMO.
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  17. 10-04-12 09:51 PM #17
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    Simpson has been training Muay Thai for years. Pierce has 0 Muay Thai. His only striking is boxing, and he's not a very good boxer.
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    Simpson looked drained at the weigh-ins.

    I'm on Pierce.
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  19. 10-04-12 10:03 PM #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe View Post
    Simpson has been training Muay Thai for years. Pierce has 0 Muay Thai. His only striking is boxing, and he's not a very good boxer.
    you will see simpson use his wresting immediately, he wont be standing with pierce trust me.
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    It's a very even fight, but Simpson is the better fighter, in my eyes. Quicker, more movement, leg kicks, etc, better wrestling imo
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    Simpsson is too wide and that will be the difference IMO. But as you said Gabers its a close fight. Why do say such things as not in this planet and so on when you see it as a close fight. A little exaggerated Gabe.
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    Pierce by decision of the night. Simpson should have no problem losing at least 2 out of the 3 rounds if not all 3.
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    Volkmann/Pierce Parlay would be perfect. I cant see pierce losing to simpson, if koscheck cant take pierce down easily how is simpson? koscheck.
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    Simpson's been fighting some cans lately, but he is on the TRT now. Much improved cardio in his last fight, but against a legit fighter like Pierce I don't think he will be able to last. He's had several fights where he's severely gassed after 1 round and Pierce has a granite chin.

    Pierce doesn't always have the best fight IQ though. If he half follows any game plan this should be an easy win.
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  25. 10-04-12 10:59 PM #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grabaka View Post
    Simpsson is too wide and that will be the difference IMO. But as you said Gabers its a close fight. Why do say such things as not in this planet and so on when you see it as a close fight. A little exaggerated Gabe.
    "not in this planet" was in reference to pierce being better than simpson, not pierce beating simpson
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    what i love about my simpson play is that this thread exists and so many of you are on pierce.
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    Simpson's size should cause some real problems for Piece. Pierce is a gamer and will put up a fight but if Simpson can get this to the mat don't see any reason why he just can't smother Pierce. Pierce could always catch Simpson standing, but that's about the only out i see for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ermzzy View Post
    Volkmann/Pierce Parlay would be perfect. I cant see pierce losing to simpson, if koscheck cant take pierce down easily how is simpson? koscheck.
    Not saying you're wrong, but to play devil's advocate, a) Koscheck barely had a camp for that fight and had no motivation after the fall out with Javier Mendez. He jus went through the motions in that fight. And b) Simpson might not need to take Pierce down as such, if he can just use his size advantage to grind against the cage then he may steal rounds in judges' eyes (whether rightly or wrongly)
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    I recall koscheck securing the rounds with takedowns...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCalculator View Post
    Simpson looked drained at the weigh-ins.

    I'm on Pierce.
    Whaat did you think about Ellenberger? He looked a bit ill in the face to me!

    A-Train said his weight-cut is easy now so wonder if it was harder than he thought
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  31. 10-05-12 03:25 AM #31
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    Simpson looked good to me, ellenberger looked out of it... I saw him in la a couple weeks ago
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  32. 10-05-12 03:40 PM #32
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    pierce is unbeatable
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    Quote Originally Posted by ermzzy View Post
    pierce is unbeatable
    LOL pierce is not a good fighter, dude. i dono what's going on in your head. pierce is crazy, the guy got his ass beat by a josh koscheck who wasn't even trying, and he still can't shut up about it, mentioning he was robbed in every interview... he was not robbed, he got his ass BEAT... by a guy who wasn't trying!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ermzzy View Post
    pierce is unbeatable
    As Koscheck, Coy, Fitch, Munoz and Hendricks all discovered!
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    How come no one else ever seems to view fights the way you do, Gabers?
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