[Vitooch]

If enough people are up for it and someone can set it up that would be great. Would like to get some discussion going about regarding some fights without having to worry about the books watching.

[sideloaded]

3....2...1 till ghost_kid comes in here crying about joey odessa and how he needs to feed his family too

[bogbat]

....

[iQon]

One, this isn't the only forum that helps linesmakers spot "soft" lines.

Two, give the linemakers credit. They're simply catching up to MMA on their own. Creating secret handicapper societies will only do so much.

[Hannibal]

^ can you list some of the other forums?

[Educ8d Degener8]

Only if it involves a secret decoder ring.

[brooks85]

I would definitely like to see other mma handicapping forums also that are at this level. Reality is this is SBR, a sports betting forum, not just an MMA forum where you can talk about betting.. huge difference as to who is going to be watching.

Not that its a contest or anything, but I knew years ago we were being watched here and its only hurting the handicapper, especially with the months and months of great matchups for the fans being made.. not ideal for the bettor.

[Vaughany]

Ive only ever looked at Covers other than SBR

[brooks85]

ive been going to covers for awhile, never even looked at their forums ha. Their mma section is pretty busy.

Looks like their dedicated mma forum didnt open until sept 2011, unless it's just not tracking threads older than that.

[Vaughany]

Kalikas be watchin!

[omalley21]

How to keep it private though? Who's to say if a book wanted in they couldnt create a screen name and get in. I'm for it in principle but how would this work?

[Educ8d Degener8]

Last time I checked covers (sh*t, over a year ago), it was a bunch of hacks...

[NunyaBidness]

I suggest that the password be 'Hubris'

[Vaughany]

I suggest that the password be 'Hubris'

lol

[illmatick]

I suggest that the password be 'Hubris'

hehe.

I love how some of these guys constantly underestimate Kalikas

[Educ8d Degener8]

I suggest that the password be 'Hubris'

I was waiting for Nunya to chime in with the highbrow humor... ;p

[brooks85]

I suggest that the password be 'Hubris'

I wish I could be that naive about it but unfortunately the fact that it is someone's job to set mma lines and they are setting them for books sponsored on this forum will not allow me to join you.

[Vitooch]

Is one of us a mole?

[cheeese]

I've said it before. If you guys really feel this way then why not disinform and create super awesome lines?
The linesmakers don't really care what sbr thinks about mma because anyone that is capable of winning long term will be limited.

[sideloaded]

mma ML's gouge the fuk out of fav's anyways. A highschool dropout could set these lines with all the juice. Not even worth screwing around with openers at such shitty limits. Just wait till the public screws the line up and take the underdog. I mean this is MMA. You just got to find the dogs that pay. Betting favorites over -250 is a waste of time.

[PunisherIND]

Betting favorites over -250 is a waste of time.

perhaps straight up, but i've made a killing parlaying big favorites.

here's a current one that i would highly recommend:

4/21/2012 11:59 PM UFC Fighting 1002 Jon Jones* -500 vs Rashad Evans 4/21/2012 11:59 PM UFC Fighting 1102 Rory MacDonald* -500 vs Che Mills 5/26/2012 11:00 PM UFC Fighting 1102 Cain Velasquez* -380 vs Frank Mir 5/5/2012 9:30 PM Props Fighting 1304 Fight won't go 3 round distance* -425 vs Johnson/Barry goes 3 round distance 5/26/2012 11:30 PM Props Fighting 1004 Fight won't go 5 round distance* -900 vs Overeem/Dos Santos goes 5 round distance Risking $1.00 To Win $1.50

[GunShard]

I think large bets above $10,000 should be kept in private cat, that effects the lines and value.

[Vaughany]

I think large bets above $10,000 should be kept in private cat, that effects the lines and value.

lol

[Vitooch]

mma ML's gouge the fuk out of fav's anyways. A highschool dropout could set these lines with all the juice. Not even worth screwing around with openers at such shitty limits. Just wait till the public screws the line up and take the underdog. I mean this is MMA. You just got to find the dogs that pay. Betting favorites over -250 is a waste of time.

Gotta disagree. Ill would take Maquiel Falcao -320 against Paraisay ML any ******* day.

[rocky mattioli]

I've said it before. If you guys really feel this way then why not disinform and create super awesome lines?
The linesmakers don't really care what sbr thinks about mma because anyone that is capable of winning long term will be limited.

"operation chaos"

[sideloaded]

perhaps straight up, but i've made a killing parlaying big favorites.

here's a current one that i would highly recommend:

4/21/2012 11:59 PM UFC Fighting 1002 Jon Jones* -500 vs Rashad Evans 4/21/2012 11:59 PM UFC Fighting 1102 Rory MacDonald* -500 vs Che Mills 5/26/2012 11:00 PM UFC Fighting 1102 Cain Velasquez* -380 vs Frank Mir 5/5/2012 9:30 PM Props Fighting 1304 Fight won't go 3 round distance* -425 vs Johnson/Barry goes 3 round distance 5/26/2012 11:30 PM Props Fighting 1004 Fight won't go 5 round distance* -900 vs Overeem/Dos Santos goes 5 round distance Risking $1.00 To Win $1.50

Simply playing with fire. It goes in cycles. 6 months ago guys were saying the same thing. They then lost promptly when just a few I mean few large fav's lost.

[sideloaded]

but you guys are right, This calender year Favs have been hitting at like 76%. Even small favs. We will see if it lasts, or if the market corrects itself.

[5mike5]

If enough people are up for it and someone can set it up that would be great. Would like to get some discussion going about regarding some fights without having to worry about the books watching.

the books watching


good cappers here but thats a little bit of a stretch...they dont care what 1 online forum thinks bud

[PunisherIND]

Simply playing with fire. It goes in cycles. 6 months ago guys were saying the same thing. They then lost promptly when just a few I mean few large fav's lost.

yes, there are times when i have an absolutely terrible event because of an upset (i.e., bader vs tito), but overall i've done quite well the past 2 years. prior to 2 years ago, i used to play dogs much heavier. linesmakers didnt know what they were doing. but nowadays its much harder to find good dogs.

[PunisherIND]

but you guys are right, This calender year Favs have been hitting at like 76%. Even small favs. We will see if it lasts, or if the market corrects itself.

this is what im saying man, especially with heavy favorites (-300 or greater).

although, if you look at winning % in zuffa events vs. non-zuffa, you will find that dogs do much better in the smaller events.

[NunyaBidness]

I think large bets above $10,000 should be kept in private cat

[GunShard]

lol

I should of said $1,000,000, lol

[gabe]

General Cats

[Vitooch]

These comments are purrrrrfect