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    Bellator 63

    Bellator 63
    Date: March 30, 2012
    Venue: Mohegan Sun
    Location: Uncassville, Connecticut

    Main Card (on MTV2):
    Karl Amoussou vs. Chris Lozano†
    Raul Amaya vs. Ben Saunders†
    Brian Foster vs. David Rickels†
    Bryan Baker vs. Carlos Alexandre Pereira†

    Lots of money to be made in these Bellator events. Alot of people are itching for the UFC to return, but Bellator is pretty damn good for the time being. This is the card I am looking most forward to betting wise of all the season 6 Bellator events so far. Anyone know when the opening lines will most likely be released?

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    most likely wednesday on Bookmaker and possibly 5dimes while Pinnacle will have it out on Thursday or the next day after bookmaker releases it

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    Where do you get this info?

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    Past history

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    Where do you guys see the value here? I'm don't know much about the fighters...

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    Let's wait for the lines to come out. I created the thread a little early but I'd like to have a little discussion without giving the linesmakers too much to work with

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    Perhaps we should move the discussion to a private chat?

    I'm interested to gain some insight. I've been pretty successful last couple Bellator events but I'm unsure about this one...

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    A few people have mentioned having a private chat...I'll make a thread about it, see what others think

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    Aren't there linesmakers on this site that are disguised as cappers? Couldn't they just join the chat as well?

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    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirchadwick1 View Post
    Aren't there linesmakers on this site that are disguised as cappers? Couldn't they just join the chat as well?

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    yaa you think vaughany is getting all these great lines???
    he's setting the freaking lines!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hannibal View Post
    yaa you think vaughany is getting all these great lines???
    he's setting the freaking lines!!!

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    Events like bellator and strikeforce are a little tougher to set lines on. I have lots of feels for this card but we def. need to hold of the discussion.

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    Yes, looking very forward to this card, more so than the last three. 2 plays stand out to me so far

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    somebody create a chat on www.chatzy.com

    ..and send me the link of course

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    Quote Originally Posted by poopoo333 View Post
    somebody create a chat on www.chatzy.com

    ..and send me the link of course
    why don't you just text mmascientist and ask him about bjj?

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    After giving it some thought and others feedback it's really not worth making a provate chat.

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    So I saw in the other BFC 63 thread that a few people are liking Amoussou... WHY???

    As I wrote in the other thread, Lozano stuck out to me as the best play on the card with regard to odds and value (would have loved to get him at the -130 opener), he's now -175 on my book. He is a beast and HUGE for the division, and seems to be very well rounded and he hits damn hard. He's fought better comp and his losse are against legit dudes - the same cannot be said about Aoussou imo.

    What is your guys' breakdown on this fight? Why do some of you favor Amoussou / where do you see him being better than Lozano? Why might some of you favor Lozano???

    I have done limited research on this fight as I am limited on time this week.

    Any feedback or insight would be VERY appreciated...

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    As I mentioned in other thread, this is a no play at the current odds. Amoussou has brutal standup. Good knees, leg kicks. Lozano has sharper boxing, but his striking is more limited. However, i think Lozano has a better chance of catching Amoussou in an exchange because of those heavy hands., especially earlier on in the fight . Lozano has pretty good wrestlig but Amoussou is very strong in the clinch and tends to grapple into dominant postitions because of his brutal strength in that department. He struggles against grapplers with a more technical BJJ background, something Lozano does not have. I would take a stab at Amoussou in the +160 range, but i think Rickels is a better dog play. I alos got Myles Jury at -170, which has a much better than Lozano at similar odds.

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