1. 01-02-12 02:50 PM #1
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    Aldo -250

    Why is he not -500? fight is in Brazil and Aldo is going to go crazy on Mendes. What does Mendes do better than Faber? Mendes gasses worse than Faber is the only thing I can think of.
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    It's getting harder to bet on Aldo every fight. I still like him to win but his weight cut is affecting his cardio. If a wrestler were able to grind him down in the early rounds, it's possible that Aldo wears out and becomes very beatable. Also consider that Chad Mendes is undefeated, and that's why the line isn't a typical for a champion.
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    Aldo wasn't very impressive against Hominick, and I think Florian beat him 3 out of 5 rounds.

    He has to stop Chad's takedowns, and no one has been able to do that, thus far.

    I'm on Aldo, but I think Mendes has a good shot at winning.
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    have you seen chad fight? I don't think you could look worse and win. Gasses every fight after 1 1/2 rounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sideloaded View Post
    have you seen chad fight? I don't think you could look worse and win. Gasses every fight after 1 1/2 rounds.
    I only recall his last fight in the UFC against a can. He likes to dry hump his way to victories. Gassing won't be an issue if he continues to get top position, especially since Aldo's conditioning isn't the best, either.
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    Aldo looked fine in round 5 against Florian. Florian is the ultimate greg jackson / tri-star gameplan to make you look like shit fighter. It works but you still loose.
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    I hope Florian retires because that fight was an abortion.
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    He's returning to Lightweight.

    He won rounds 1, 2, and 4. Wasn't too bad for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe View Post
    I only recall his last fight in the UFC against a can. He likes to dry hump his way to victories. Gassing won't be an issue if he continues to get top position, especially since Aldo's conditioning isn't the best, either.
    You think Yahya is a can?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughany View Post
    You think Yahya is a can?
    Mendes was -575 against him, so I assumed so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe View Post
    Mendes was -575 against him, so I assumed so.
    Yeah but Hominick was -560 against Korean Zombie - does that mean Zombie is a can as well?

    Chad has been a pretty big favourite against all of his opponents, best you could of ever got him at in any fight was -265 against Koch or Vazquez
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe View Post
    He's returning to Lightweight.

    He won rounds 1, 2, and 4. Wasn't too bad for him.
    gabe if he won 1,2 and 4 he would be champion right now.
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  13. 01-02-12 04:52 PM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by sideloaded View Post
    gabe if he won 1,2 and 4 he would be champion right now.
    I only gave him round one .. I could see four going either way though.

    I'm on Aldo, but will feel way better after he stuffs a takedown or two. Live betting maybe?
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    Mendes reminds me a lot like Frankie Edgar.
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    Mendes beats Aldo and Aldo moves to Lightweight.

    GL
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    Quote Originally Posted by sideloaded View Post
    gabe if he won 1,2 and 4 he would be champion right now.
    Because judges don't favor the champion on the scoring cards or because judges are always 100% accurate?

    From what I saw, he did more in rounds 1, 2, and 4. But you gotta do better than that in a championship fight, the champion will always get the decision in a close fight.
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    I like Jose here.
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  18. 01-02-12 05:52 PM #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGDAY View Post
    Mendes reminds me a lot like Frankie Edgar.

    I hope you're trolling, and not that bad at talent evaluation.
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  19. 01-02-12 05:58 PM #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe View Post
    Because judges don't favor the champion on the scoring cards or because judges are always 100% accurate? From what I saw, he did more in rounds 1, 2, and 4. But you gotta do better than that in a championship fight, the champion will always get the decision in a close fight.
    You are showing a heavy gamblers bias here. I remember when watching it I thought that Florian only won the first round of that fight.
    Also, as far as I can see every play by play gave it to Aldo.
    http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/UFC...-by-Play-36178
    http://www.cagepotato.com/ufc-136-li...lay-by-play/5/
    http://mmajunkie.com/news/25575/ufc-...ve-results.mma
    http://mmaweekly.com/ufc-136-play-by...-kenny-florian
    http://mmafrenzy.com/26322/ufc-136-r...ar-vs-maynard/


    Fight metric scored it 50-45 Aldo

    http://blog.fightmetric.com/2011/10/...tatistics.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogbat View Post
    You are showing a heavy gamblers bias here. I remember when watching it I thought that Florian only won the first round of that fight.
    Also, as far as I can see every play by play gave it to Aldo.
    http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/UFC...-by-Play-36178
    http://www.cagepotato.com/ufc-136-li...lay-by-play/5/
    http://mmajunkie.com/news/25575/ufc-...ve-results.mma
    http://mmaweekly.com/ufc-136-play-by...-kenny-florian
    http://mmafrenzy.com/26322/ufc-136-r...ar-vs-maynard/


    Fight metric scored it 50-45 Aldo

    http://blog.fightmetric.com/2011/10/...tatistics.html
    They're scoring in favor of the champion in the close rounds. Florian had the better of rounds 2 and 4. Even in the descriptions, it appears that way, yet they give the rounds to Aldo.
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  21. 01-02-12 06:38 PM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe View Post
    They're scoring in favor of the champion in the close rounds. Florian had the better of rounds 2 and 4. Even in the descriptions, it appears that way, yet they give the rounds to Aldo.
    So all of those individuals favored the champion? Explain why that didn't happen in other close fights like Edgar-Penn I, and Jackson-Griffin. Also, you can't deny the hard stats provided by fight metric.
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    Did you have money on Florian gabe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogbat View Post
    So all of those individuals favored the champion? Explain why that didn't happen in other close fights like Edgar-Penn I, and Jackson-Griffin. Also, you can't deny the hard stats provided by fight metric.
    What? Forrest won that fight, it wasn't that close. Same with Edgar-Penn; Edgar had the better of the rounds.

    Florian wasn't as convincing, especially since he got beat in the 5th and most important round.

    If you wanna say Florian didn't win rounds 2 and 4, fine, but you can't tell me Aldo won them.
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    yeah, i had money on kenflo, but i usually think guys i have money on are losing the rounds
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    Quote Originally Posted by sideloaded View Post
    I hope you're trolling, and not that bad at talent evaluation.
    I don't troll. Honest opinion. GL with your wagers pal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGDAY View Post
    I don't troll. Honest opinion. GL with your wagers pal.
    Stop that. Last time you wished him luck, we lost our Cerrone bet.

    -edit- on second thought, keep at it, 'cos this time around, I'm riding the Aldo train.
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    i got a video coming about this ufc watch for it
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  28. 01-02-12 11:23 PM #28
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    Gabe, you are a ******* joke. You call a fighter a can when you don't even know who he is and you haven't seen him fight once.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGDAY View Post
    I don't troll. Honest opinion. GL with your wagers pal.
    Ignore him Bigday he's one of the most hated trolls on SBR. We are all aware of your above average talent evaluation abilities..
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    And sideloaded, you know nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitooch View Post
    Gabe, you are a ******* joke. You call a fighter a can when you don't even know who he is and you haven't seen him fight once.
    You are dumb. You say that after I mentioned that I had seen Chad Mendes fight him?

    Why would I possibly think that he was a can? Did you ask yourself that, you fool?

    I had no idea who he was before his fight with Mendes, and Mendes made him look like a big can. Can you blame me for assuming he might be one? If yes, then you sir, are the joke.

    So I guess Mendes would be -1100 against a can, since he was only -575 against Yahya Sistahood
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitooch View Post
    And sideloaded, you know nothing.
    thanks for telling me
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    Mendes = Edgar

    LOL
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    sideloaded is my new favorite troll. Only 14(?) years old and is able to infuriate half of the forum.

    I'm looking forward to your next vid little man. When you make it wear one of those 911 shirts you have been posting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe View Post
    They're scoring in favor of the champion in the close rounds. Florian had the better of rounds 2 and 4. Even in the descriptions, it appears that way, yet they give the rounds to Aldo.
    Saying that the Champion is always favoured is a bit flippant. Surely BJ Penn wouldn't of lost to Edgar the first time round if this was the case?
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