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    Cloudbet is a scummy book

    I made two live bets on Virginia Tech at +384 and +195. So now they're up 14-0 and every other live book has Tennessee +100, so I was going to hedge out for guaranteed profit. Guess what though, they pause the live betting line...If you aren't familiar with cloudbet, their live lines are open during the action, as opposed to other books that just open lines during commercials. So they close the line for three possessions (which is unheard of in my time playing here) and then after Tennessee scores a td and the line is back to -200, they open the live betting line again. I'm done with this garbage book.

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    They paused it just for you or everyone?

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    Everyone probably but it was obvious what they were doing. As soon as Tenn scored a td, the lines came back instantly from being down for like 15 minutes.

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    There have been complaints about their live betting software before. There are much better options for in-play.

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    I'm beginning to notice alot of bugs with cloudbet's user interface... I've been playing here for less than a week and only have had great things to say, however now I see why some people dislike this shop. At times getting a bet down is impossible.. I just now tried to bet on an under for a inplay game and the site is unresponsive. It could be because I'm on mobile. I'm also waiting for a cancel on the misa eguchi match. I had an exact set score (2-1) on pliskova. The game went 3 sets but eguchi retired. I should get my stake back as the match ended before someone won 2 sets. I'm on 5 hours now let's see how this plays out.

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    Still waiting... I've received and email from them saying they have escalated the issue with the sportsbook team but the bet still remains ungraded.... very disappointing.

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    I'm waiting for a bet to get graded too, I have a parlay from Saturday night that is still pending in my account. Hopefully they don't read this thread before deciding whether to grade it lol. Good luck with your problem, it should be straightforward but maybe they don't have staff working during the weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DR225 View Post
    I'm waiting for a bet to get graded too, I have a parlay from Saturday night that is still pending in my account. Hopefully they don't read this thread before deciding whether to grade it lol. Good luck with your problem, it should be straightforward but maybe they don't have staff working during the weekend.
    You may be right since there are problems every weekend with grading and payouts.

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    I've used 4 BTC only books so far and I would rate Could as the worst of the 4. Better options out there. Probably a bunch I don't even know about yet. Somebody needs to do a thorough bitcoin only book review and make a list. Either SBR or Raiders since everyone says you're the resident BTC expert here. I've been really satisfied with Nitrogen, Betcoin and Betballer but would like to see a comprehensive list of reviewed BTC only books to find a couple more outs and make sure I'm not missing out on anything.

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    okay so i have been playing here awhile and its been an okay experienced. i have learned, do not bet any non live games, only bet live lines. you will be waoting awhile for wagers to get graded if you placed wager before match started. in play wagers are graded almost insdant. for in play wagers that are a push or void you will be waiting over night for your stake back, i dont know why that is. dont bother emailing support, you will get the same generic answer everytime. " we have escalated the issue , we appreciat your patience blah blah blah"
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    Quote Originally Posted by habitualwinning View Post
    I've used 4 BTC only books so far and I would rate Could as the worst of the 4. Better options out there. Probably a bunch I don't even know about yet. Somebody needs to do a thorough bitcoin only book review and make a list. Either SBR or Raiders since everyone says you're the resident BTC expert here. I've been really satisfied with Nitrogen, Betcoin and Betballer but would like to see a comprehensive list of reviewed BTC only books to find a couple more outs and make sure I'm not missing out on anything.
    All the bitcoin only books are a bit clunky compared to Nitrogen.

    Betcoin, Jetwin and maybe Directbet seem to be on the next level.

    Waiting to hear more user reports about Betballer.

    I don't think any of the well known ones have proven to be terrible so far personally. Even Cloudbet has it's positive points.

    You might have to look toward traditional books that take bitcoin as well to expand much further.

    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/bett...n-sportsbooks/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    All the bitcoin only books are a bit clunky compared to Nitrogen.

    Betcoin, Jetwin and maybe Directbet seem to be on the next level.

    Waiting to hear more user reports about Betballer.

    I don't think any of the well known ones have proven to be terrible so far personally. Even Cloudbet has it's positive points.

    You might have to look toward traditional books that take bitcoin as well to expand much further.

    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/bett...n-sportsbooks/
    I agree with most of your thoughts and have used 5 of 6 of those books starting in 2013.

    The only one that I've haven't used is Betballer since it is a fiat book accepting bitcoins. Of those 5 I'd rate in this order: Nitrogen, Betcoinsports, Jetwin, Cloudbet, DirectBet

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    Oh thanks. I thought Betballer had straight bitcoin accounts. That's a shame they dont.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    All the bitcoin only books are a bit clunky compared to Nitrogen.

    Betcoin, Jetwin and maybe Directbet seem to be on the next level.

    Waiting to hear more user reports about Betballer.

    I don't think any of the well known ones have proven to be terrible so far personally. Even Cloudbet has it's positive points.

    You might have to look toward traditional books that take bitcoin as well to expand much further.

    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/bett...n-sportsbooks/
    That's my point of why I want a comprehensive review of BTC only books. Why would I use one of the traditional books that take bitcoin when I can use a BTC only book and move my money around in minutes. Let's put it this way. I took a BTC payout from 2 of the top rated fiat books on this site before NFL season started. I won't name names but it's easy to figure out. One of them took about 20 hours to pay me and the other one took almost 2 full days to pay me.

    Meanwhile I started using these BTC only books like Nitrogen, Betballer, Betcoin and it's never taken me more than like an hour max to get paid. Often times it's only minutes. I requested payout from 2 of those named BTC only books on Sunday immediately after football ended, both paid within an hour. This is exceptional considering that should be one of their slowest payout times since everyone that won on NFL would be requesting a payout at the same time.

    The BTC books that are rated C and B on SBR I would rate A+ and the A+ rated fiat SBR books that also use BTC, I would rate like a B or C due to slow deposit and payout times. Maybe I'm way ahead of the curve compared to everyone else but it makes no sense to use a book that takes 20+ hours to pay when I can use one that pays in 20 minutes. The world is changing rapidly, the younger generations are taking over. The fiat books will be obsolete soon once everyone catches on. I just thought maybe SBR would want to keep up with the current times and start comprehensively reviewing BTC only books since they're the future of sports betting.

    Until then I'll just keep using the 3 BTC only books that I've had A+ experiences with Nitrogen, Betballer and Betcoin. I've heard too many negative things from other people to try Jetwin and quite honestly I'm not too keen on Cloudbet. I'd rank them like a C due to slow grading of games but they're the only BTC only book I've used that I didn't like. The other 3 are A+ in my book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post
    I agree with most of your thoughts and have used 5 of 6 of those books starting in 2013.

    The only one that I've haven't used is Betballer since it is a fiat book accepting bitcoins. Of those 5 I'd rate in this order: Nitrogen, Betcoinsports, Jetwin, Cloudbet, DirectBet
    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Oh thanks. I thought Betballer had straight bitcoin accounts. That's a shame they dont.
    Idk if you guys are American or not but if you're American Betballer is essentially BTC only since that's your only option on the site. That's why I refer to it as a BTC only book cause it is for me. Also this book has some of the best lines I've seen from a BTC only book. Almost always better than Nitrogen and often times better than top rated fiat books, at least for the games I wanted to bet on. My very first time using that site I deposited 1 BTC and got a payout over 1.5 BTC within an hour of game ending. I just took a chance using the book since there's no review on it but a couple other posters on here said it was good, so I trusted them. It's legit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Oh thanks. I thought Betballer had straight bitcoin accounts. That's a shame they dont.
    As a moderator you should be doing a better job of informing the community rather than spreading mis information. BetBaller is a great shop as they let you play via btc or fiat. For those wanting to fund them using ewallets you can however kyc will be needed before a payout. Whereas if you wanted to play btc strictly, you can and no kyc will be needed. This serves the community greatly as you have 2 different options of funding methods. They don't force btc on you which is great. They also have less juice on their lines than nitrogen and offer great live inplay. BetBaller is definitely an underated shop everyone should consider checking out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by futbolmundial View Post
    As a moderator you should be doing a better job of informing the community rather than spreading mis information. BetBaller is a great shop as they let you play via btc or fiat. For those wanting to fund them using ewallets you can however kyc will be needed before a payout. Whereas if you wanted to play btc strictly, you can and no kyc will be needed. This serves the community greatly as you have 2 different options of funding methods. They don't force btc on you which is great. They also have less juice on their lines than nitrogen and offer great live inplay. BetBaller is definitely an underated shop everyone should consider checking out.
    It was my fault. I was the one that posted it was a fiat book accepting bitcoins. I wrongly assumed that KYC was needed since they accept other currencies.

    I try to play at all books, not requiring KYC, to test them out and overlooked Betballer.

    Optional has done a great job with his bitcoin advice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by futbolmundial View Post

    As a moderator you should be doing a better job of informing the community rather than spreading mis information. BetBaller is a great shop as they let you play via btc or fiat. For those wanting to fund them using ewallets you can however kyc will be needed before a payout. Whereas if you wanted to play btc strictly, you can and no kyc will be needed. This serves the community greatly as you have 2 different options of funding methods. They don't force btc on you which is great. They also have less juice on their lines than nitrogen and offer great live inplay. BetBaller is definitely an underated shop everyone should consider checking out.
    Thanks for the advice. Do you think I should also be doing a better job of booting shills that only seem to post here to promote a particular book for the owner? Some others seem to think so. It's not really a good look allowing you as much latitude as you have been given until now, as it just makes other people think they can do the same. What's your advice on that one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by habitualwinning View Post

    That's my point of why I want a comprehensive review of BTC only books. Why would I use one of the traditional books that take bitcoin when I can use a BTC only book and move my money around in minutes. Let's put it this way. I took a BTC payout from 2 of the top rated fiat books on this site before NFL season started. I won't name names but it's easy to figure out. One of them took about 20 hours to pay me and the other one took almost 2 full days to pay me.

    Meanwhile I started using these BTC only books like Nitrogen, Betballer, Betcoin and it's never taken me more than like an hour max to get paid. Often times it's only minutes. I requested payout from 2 of those named BTC only books on Sunday immediately after football ended, both paid within an hour. This is exceptional considering that should be one of their slowest payout times since everyone that won on NFL would be requesting a payout at the same time.

    The BTC books that are rated C and B on SBR I would rate A+ and the A+ rated fiat SBR books that also use BTC, I would rate like a B or C due to slow deposit and payout times. Maybe I'm way ahead of the curve compared to everyone else but it makes no sense to use a book that takes 20+ hours to pay when I can use one that pays in 20 minutes. The world is changing rapidly, the younger generations are taking over. The fiat books will be obsolete soon once everyone catches on. I just thought maybe SBR would want to keep up with the current times and start comprehensively reviewing BTC only books since they're the future of sports betting.

    Until then I'll just keep using the 3 BTC only books that I've had A+ experiences with Nitrogen, Betballer and Betcoin. I've heard too many negative things from other people to try Jetwin and quite honestly I'm not too keen on Cloudbet. I'd rank them like a C due to slow grading of games but they're the only BTC only book I've used that I didn't like. The other 3 are A+ in my book.
    I mentioned pretty much all the ones worth thinking about. And you sound like you've looked at them all.

    That's all I meant by saying you might have to look at traditional books if you want to expand the book portfolio much further.

    Here is the list of SBR rated bitcoin only sites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Thanks for the advice. Do you think I should also be doing a better job of booting shills that only seem to post here to promote a particular book for the owner? Some others seem to think so. It's not really a good look allowing you as much latitude as you have been given until now, as it just makes other people think they can do the same. What's your advice on that one?
    You can call me whatever you like... truth is sbr is the biggest shill of them all... Should I refer you to BetIslands ? Perhaps you can tell the betting community your thoughts on that front... I play at several shops and have posted my opinions on all of them, you can check my post and see that I speak on behalf of myself and my experiences and no one elses.. That is very unprofessional of you to say what you did regarding my post on this site. I have tried to be as helpful as possible regarding all the topics I've commented on. If you don't like my post then go ahead and ban me.. it wouldn't be the first time sbr hides behind the ban button.

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    Quote Originally Posted by futbolmundial View Post

    You can call me whatever you like... truth is sbr is the biggest shill of them all... Should I refer you to BetIslands ? Perhaps you can tell the betting community your thoughts on that front... I play at several shops and have posted my opinions on all of them, you can check my post and see that I speak on behalf of myself and my experiences and no one elses.. That is very unprofessional of you to say what you did regarding my post on this site. I have tried to be as helpful as possible regarding all the topics I've commented on. If you don't like my post then go ahead and ban me.. it wouldn't be the first time sbr hides behind the ban button.
    Wow. I sure misread you.

    Of course I won't ban you for just making a rude comment at me. But shilling is against the rules and you will receive infractions for that if you continue your work for Betballer any longer. It's a rule to help members not have to put up with incessant marketing. You'll need to respect it carefully from now on. Someone who says that they hate SBR so much can't expect to be allowed to continue with the special treatment you've been given and obviously don't appreciate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Wow. I sure misread you.

    Of course I won't ban you for just making a rude comment at me. But shilling is against the rules and you will receive infractions for that if you continue your work for Betballer any longer. It's a rule to help members not have to put up with incessant marketing. You'll need to respect it carefully from now on. Someone who says that they hate SBR so much can't expect to be allowed to continue with the special treatment you've been given and obviously don't appreciate.
    I never said I hated sbr in any of my post nor do I work for Betballer. I don't know why you keep spreading mis information for. All of my post are my experiences with the offshore world, I have no affiliation with any book. I play at over 10 different shops and they all have 1 thing in common which is that they pay, some within minutes (bitcoin) and others no more than 1 week per fedex check (cr / panama offshore). The books are both some of sbr's top ranked and some that many of you probably haven't played at, and that's not my fault. If I ever mention a shop I speak from personal experience of dealing with them first hand. I guess here at sbr the betting community can only play and speak of the sbr books.. if so i am sorry for that. As I was only trying to help out the betting community first and foremost, you can label me whatever it is you want. Just know that you'd be muting the voice of a bettor and no one else. If this site isn't intended for the voice of the player to be heard, then I don't know what it stands for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Here is the list of SBR rated bitcoin only sites.
    mbit no longer offers sports betting, they cancelled winnings and decided to stop doing sportbets at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thordin86 View Post

    mbit no longer offers sports betting, they cancelled winnings and decided to stop doing sportbets at the same time.
    Thanks. I'll let the admin guys know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    I mentioned pretty much all the ones worth thinking about. And you sound like you've looked at them all.

    That's all I meant by saying you might have to look at traditional books if you want to expand the book portfolio much further.

    Here is the list of SBR rated bitcoin only sites.
    Ya it's hard to know really how comprehensive of a grasp I have of the whole BTC thing pertaining to different books and wallets and such. I feel like over the course of about 1 month I've gone from a BTC know nothing to one of the biggest advocates for it. Once I figured out the ropes, I've been using it exclusively and I think it's awesome. I just dove head first into the BTC only books, not knowing anything about them or really even if I'd get paid or how quickly. After using a few, I've had nothing but positive experiences, except for that one glitch at Nitrogen that one day but I still got paid after they fixed it. I feel really adamant about BTC being the future of currency and certainly sports betting. I feel like this thing is just going to explode and become huge in the next few years. I just hope all the books out there are paying attention and hopefully adapting as necessary to accommodate for speed and volume.

    I've probably learned almost everything I know about BTC and BTC books, wallets and such from Yourself and Raiders. You guys have been awesome with the information you've shared in various threads/posts on this forum. Thank you guys for all your help. You've converted me from a skeptic that just wanted to keep using the old methods to one of the biggest advocates of BTC that from now on only wants to use BTC exclusively for transactions.
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    not good place

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    i use cloudbet for soccer and live soccer plays, it seems to pay very fast compared to american football and baseball wagers for some reason.

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