[broadway6]

5th day of your binder on the craps and poker tables? points machine

[ProPicker713]

Hockey is pretty pissed right now bro. Lost 2k in like 5 minutes in the casino today while we were playing poker.

[broadway6]

Hockey is pretty pissed right now bro. Lost 2k in like 5 minutes in the casino today while we were playing poker.

he should have so many points badges from this week that 2k shouldn't matter.

[hockey216]

***** Hand history (v1.2) ***** Hand ID 3082537 $10/$20 NL Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - 02:36:00 07/04/2013 ET Table 'Inertia', 10 seats max, Real money Seat 2 is the button. Small Blind $10, Big Blind $20 Note: seat IDs range from 1 to 10 Seat 1 (playing) : pimpinaces, amount $3972, amount bet $0, penalty (None) Seat 2 (playing) : hockey216, amount $2518, amount bet $0, penalty (None) hockey216: Small Blind ($10) pimpinaces: Big Blind ($20)

** Dealing Down Cards ** Dealt to hockey216: [Qh, 7h] hockey216: Call [btn] ($10) pimpinaces: Raise ($40) hockey216: Call [btn] ($20)

** Dealing Flop ** Community cards: [7c, 2h, Qs] pimpinaces: Bet ($44) hockey216: Raise [btn] ($100) pimpinaces: Raise ($250) hockey216: Raise [btn] ($2478) pimpinaces: Call ($2228) pimpinaces: Show Cards ($0) hockey216: Show Cards ($0)

** Dealing Turn ** Community cards: [Jc]

** Dealing River ** Community cards: [2d]

** End Round ** ** Evaluate **
pimpinaces: Show Cards ($0) hockey216: Show Cards ($0) ** Showdown ** Main pot $5035, Rake $1 Summary pimpinaces: bet $2582, won $5035, net $2453, HoleCards [Kc, Kh], HiHand [two pairs, kings and twos] [Kh, Kc, 2h, 2d, Qs], won $5035 from main pot Summary hockey216: bet $2618, won $0, net $-2618

[hockey216]

***** Hand history (v1.2) ***** Hand ID 3082417 $5/$10 NL Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - 02:16:00 07/04/2013 ET Table 'Handicapper Hill', 6 seats max, Real money Seat 6 is the button. Small Blind $5, Big Blind $10 Note: seat IDs range from 1 to 6 Seat 1 (playing) : pimpinaces, amount $955.10, amount bet $0, penalty (None) Seat 5 (playing) : hockey216, amount $4052.50, amount bet $0, penalty (None) Seat 6 (playing) : thecentaur, amount $1375.10, amount bet $0, penalty (None) pimpinaces: Small Blind ($5) hockey216: Big Blind ($10)

** Dealing Down Cards ** Dealt to hockey216: [6h, 6c] thecentaur: Fold pimpinaces: Raise ($20) hockey216: Call [btn] ($10)

** Dealing Flop ** Community cards: [6d, 9c, 2d] pimpinaces: Bet ($33) hockey216: Raise [btn] ($75) pimpinaces: Raise ($117) hockey216: Raise [btn] ($4032.50) pimpinaces: Call ($818.10) pimpinaces: Show Cards ($0) hockey216: Show Cards ($0)

** Dealing Turn ** Community cards: [As]

** Dealing River ** Community cards: [3d]

** End Round ** ** Evaluate ** pimpinaces: Show Cards ($0) hockey216: Show Cards ($0)
** Showdown **
Main pot $1909.20, Rake $1 Side pot #1 $3097.40, Rake $0 Summary pimpinaces: bet $993.10, won $1909.20, net $916.10, HiHand [a flush, ace high], won $1909.20 from main pot Summary hockey216: bet $4127.50, won $3097.40, net $-1030.10, HoleCards [6h, 6c], HiHand [three of a kind, sixes] [6h, 6d, 6c, As, 9c], won $3097.40 from side pot #1

[hockey216]

got rivered in 2 pots totaling 7000 points. got all in on the flop with top 2 pair and with middle set. both times was against 1 pair. got rivered both times.

[hockey216]

i should only have badge from saturday that i get mon. went from 0 to 6000. but not getting it now because i got rivered in 2 pots totaling 7000 last night.

[broadway6]

On tilt

[hockey216]

On tilt

Centaur is a little hit and running sissy. He comes to 2/4 and 5/10 and tries to win quick 100 and then leaves. In fact, he also just hit and ran me for 4 points. Literally. Comes to table, wins blinds on first hand, then cashes out and leaves table and doesn't return. What a sissy.

[hockey216]

just won 4500 at 10/20. up to just under 12k. Not bad for having 0 points on Friday. I've gone 0 to 4000 in 24hours plenty of times but never 0 to 12,000 in 48hours.

Hopefully i don't blow it all. knowing myself i will blow it in less than 3 days and will be in forum needing another loan lol. i was going crazy all day/night/morning betting 400/roll in craps.

[ProPicker713]

You can always send it over here to help build LOL

[hockey216]

You can always send it over here to help build LOL

you in tourney?

[ProPicker713]

Got knocked out early. That fool with the Haloeast caught 2 bad beats on me.

[Louisvillekid1]

Dam I haven't played in a while, when did they start a 10/20....

Miss having points...

[broadway6]

5/10 stakes to high for my little points... no other table going.

Lkid- a few weeks ago.

[trytrytry]

hes hot hot hot..he caught two rivers on me for 2k .. amazing luck he has now
..how long can he go maybe 100k would be awesome. hes on a lucky tear!

[yisman]

first one up there wasn't a river, KK won on turn

[broadway6]

hockey, how many points have you won on the craps table today?

[hockey216]

hes hot hot hot..he caught two rivers on me for 2k .. amazing luck he has now
..how long can he go maybe 100k would be awesome. hes on a lucky tear!

Rivered you?

i flopped trip 8s, and you stuffed all in on flop with A high. you had no draw, no backdoor flush possibility, nothing: just Ace high. i called with Three 8s. Other hand i flopped middle set with TT. chk flop, 200 turn, 700 (all in) riv. all the money (3/4) went in on river when i had full house. you called me with flush. i didn't suck out after the money went in. you sucked out on the turn against my set, then the board paired on river. then you called 700 on river when you were dead. all the money went in when i was ahead. and i didn't river you with the other hand. i flopped trip 8s and you went all in on flop with A high.

***** Hand history (v1.2) ***** Hand ID 3084633 $5/$10 NL Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - 15:10:00 07/04/2013 ET Table 'Handicapper Hill', 6 seats max, Real money Seat 5 is the button. Small Blind $5, Big Blind $10 Note: seat IDs range from 1 to 6 Seat 1 (playing) : trytrytry, amount $1398, amount bet $0, penalty (None) Seat 5 (playing) : hockey216, amount $1044, amount bet $0, penalty (None) hockey216: Small Blind ($5) trytrytry: Big Blind ($10)

** Dealing Down Cards ** Dealt to hockey216: [7h, 8h] hockey216: Raise [btn] ($20) trytrytry: Raise ($30) hockey216: Call [btn] ($10)

** Dealing Flop ** Community cards: [Th, 8c, 8d] trytrytry: Check ($0) hockey216: Bet [btn] ($30) trytrytry: Raise ($1368) hockey216: Call [btn] ($984) trytrytry: Show Cards ($0) hockey216: Show Cards ($0)

** Dealing Turn ** Community cards: [5c]

** Dealing River ** Community cards: [Ts]

** End Round ** ** Evaluate

** trytrytry: Show Cards ($0) hockey216: Show Cards ($0)

** Showdown ** Main pot $2087, Rake $1 Side pot #1 $354, Rake $0 Summary trytrytry: bet $1408, won $354, net $-1054, HoleCards [Qh, As], HiHand [two pairs, tens and eights] [Ts, Th, 8d, 8c, As], won $354 from side pot #1 Summary hockey216: bet $1049, won $2087, net $1038, HoleCards [7h, 8h], HiHand [a full house, eights full of tens] [8h, 8d, 8c, Ts, Th], won $2087 from main pot

[hockey216]

hockey, how many points have you won on the craps table today?

i have rule not to brag about winnings. bc i know gambling and second you get cocky you lose it all. but, i'll make exception. i hit craps for 3852 yesterday. 2814 today. 6666 total today and yesterday.

Wow... 6666 is exact amount that i won in craps last 2 days. Gambling sure is evil!

[broadway6]

i have rule not to brag about winnings. bc i know gambling and second you get cocky you lose it all. but, i'll make exception. i hit craps for 3852 yesterday. 2573 today. 6425 total today and yesterday.

made a thread asking sbr to fix software so we can all play at the same craps table. nobody listened.

[broadway6]

i should play craps... fukin poker hates me

[hockey216]

first one up there wasn't a river, KK won on turn

read it again. KK on a 2-7-J-Q board is only 1 pair. Q7 is two pair. it was a river. he rivered 2 to make pair on board so he had Ks up and counterfeitted me. We went all in on the flop to make a pot over 5,000. i was way ahead when money went in. he rivered a duece to suck out. read the hand again. all money went in on flop. he sucked out on river.

I will say, though, that he is a class player. He was man enough to stay a little longer at table out of respect, even though he had to go. He came back and played me today too. Not like Centaur's hit and running ass. Hats off to the gentleman for showing respect.

[broadway6]

didn't take my long to lose all my points in craps either...

[hockey216]

didn't take my long to lose all my points in craps either...

what did you bet on? craps can have lowest house edge or highest house edge in casino depending on which bets you place. passline/come and dont/dontcome with full odds has less than 1% edge. with 5x odds its 0.3% house edge. Lowest house edge of any game at any casino. but if you make place bets on the numbers, bet anything in center of table (crazy capper bets for fools) like hardways, horns, c+e, etc. you're making bets with huge edges. just stick to dont pass line with full odds or pass line with full odds. no house edge on odds. get TRUE payout based on probability for odds. come/dont come bets are the same thing as pass/dont pass, only diff is you make them during point cycle of the game.

6 ways to make 7
5 ways to make 6/8
4 ways to make 5/9
3 ways to make 4/10
2 ways to make 3/11
1 way to make 2/12
(36 possibilities with 2 dice)

thats why odds on the come/pass pay 6/5 on 6,8; 3/2 on 5,9; 2/1 on 4,10. Odds reflect the true probabilities, and there is no house edge on odds.

with the dont (betting 7 to show before box number - you win on 7, lose on box #). 7,11 lose come out roll. 2,3 win comeout roll. You're an 8/3 underdog on the comeout roll (8 combinations for 7,11; 3 combinations for 2,3). But after that, you're the favorite. You're 6/5 fav on 8,6. You're 3/2 fav on 5,9. You're 2/1 fav on 4,10. And you get paid even money when fair odds would be to lay 2/1, 3,2, or 6,5. so you're actually expected a positive return (if you get past comeout roll) since if they 7 shows you get overpaid. The comeout roll is the big problem and where the house gets its edge. 8/36 probability you lose. 3/36 probability you win.

dont pass and dont come odds are same as but opposite. Since you're winning 6 times for every 5,4,3 time you lose, and are favorite once there is a point, you lay the odds. e.g. risk 60 to win 50, 40, or 30. you're the favorite but you're laying chalk. with pass/come, its same but opposite. you get 2/1, 3/2, 6/5 on your bet because your underdog. payoffs are nice, but thats countered by the fact that you are more likely to lose your bet, because a getting a 7 (1/6 probability) has higher probability than getting a 4,5,6,8,9,10.

hopefully you all now know how odds work in the game of craps. There is still no way to win long term because there is still house edge. However, in craps, you will lose less because of lower house edge. And with an edge that small, you're more likely to win in short run.

[broadway6]

what did you bet on? craps can have lowest house edge or highest house edge in casino depending on which bets you place. passline/come and dont/dontcome with full odds has less than 1% edge. with 5 odds its 0.3% house edge. Lowest house edge of any game at any casino. but if you make place bets, bet anything in center of table (crazy capper bets for fools) like hardways, horns, c+e, etc. you're making bets with huge edges. just stick to dont pass line with full odds or pass line with full odds. no house edge on odds. get TRUE payout based on probability

6 ways to make 7
5 ways to make 6/8
4 ways to make 5/9
3 ways to make 4/10
2 ways to make 3/11
1 way to make 2/12
(36 possibilities)

thats why odds on the come/pass pay 6/5 on 6,8, 3/2 on 5,9, 2/1 on 4,10.

with the dont its same but opposite. Since you're winning 6 times for every 5,4,3 time you lose, and are favorite once there is a point, you lay the odds. e.g. risk 60 to win 50, 40, 30. you're the favorite but you're laying chalk. with pass/come, its same but opposite. you get 2/1, 3/2, 6/5 on your bet because your underdog. payoffs are nice, but thats countered by fact that you are more likely to lose your bet, because 7 (6 ways to make) is more likely than getting 4,5,6,8,9,10.

hopefully you all now know how odds work in the game of craps. There is still no way to win long term because there is still house edge. However, in craps, you will lose less because of lower house edge. And with an edge that small, you're more likely to win in short run

only on the pass and max odds backing it up... thanks for your wisdom.

[TheCentaur]

broadway craps is a great game to play live. 20x and even 100x odds are not that hard to find reducing the house edge to about .014%. on 100x

The thing about live craps is you can catch errors against you, but let them pay you wrong in your favor when it happens. This is borderline poor etiquette, but getting players drunk and taking their money and all the other stuff casinos pull on you more than makes up for it.

My favorite craps strategy is line bet with max odds, and double the bet after 2 points are made that either include a 4 or 10 or are any combo of the 5 and 9. Otherwise double after three points are made. If you need more action get 2 come bets with max odds. The odds of the game don't change but the risk of ruin goes up.

[BigDeem5]

This kid has logged in 46 hours of last 48, no wife no kids, no friends but 12k betpoints

[hockey216]

It will take me less than 2 days to blow it. i guarantee you. i'm the biggest gambling degenerate that ever walked the face of the earth. i am very skilled at poker, but i am also a degenerate.

Odds that i blow my 16,446 within 1 week: -800
Odds that i don't blow it: +620

anyone want action?

ahahaha im just kidding.

too bad tatddy got angry at me the other night and won't hold my points anymore. He's a nice guy, and I could use him to hold some points, so i dont blow them! Tatddy if you see this, i wish you well. sorry we got into it about a hand other night. you're great guy, and i love the great conversation you bring to table.

[hockey216]

[broadway6]

broadway craps is a great game to play live. 20x and even 100x odds are not that hard to find reducing the house edge to about .014%. on 100x

The thing about live craps is you can catch errors against you, but let them pay you wrong in your favor when it happens. This is borderline poor etiquette, but getting players drunk and taking their money and all the other stuff casinos pull on you more than makes up for it.

My favorite craps strategy is line bet with max odds, and double the bet after 2 points are made that either include a 4 or 10 or are any combo of the 5 and 9. Otherwise double after three points are made. If you need more action get 2 come bets with max odds. The odds of the game don't change but the risk of ruin goes up.

IMO its the best game in a casino.