[broadway6]

Interesting read. More like used car seller. Never knew so many people got their gambling "fix" by betting points and then scamming the lender.

Car seller, do you still live with your parents?

[playersonly69]

you missed it today carseller

[Carseller4]

It's actually been 5 months.

but 4,000 paid out in 5 months is not bad.

Learn the facts, and stop being hateful.

You are all hurting my feelings.

I am being bullied.

[Mitchell88]

I dont care either way but I thought that SBR stayed out of points forum business? Is that only unless it is one of their boys? how does this work

[tatddy]

Here are the facts. YOU made a thread about some bankruptcy nonsense trying to get out of your interest. You took it back when you were made to look the fool that you are. YOU used stash to help you get out of massive debt.....stash basically controlled all of your points and sent you daily allowance like the child that you imposter.

YOU finally got out of debt, through the dedicated work of a good man in Stash, and YOU immediately requested countless loans and got YOURSELF right back into massive debt again. Now you want more bailouts.

YOU are a waste of space on this forum and, most likely, on this planet and should seek help.

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

For the dumbasses who don't have a clue.

1. My original agreement with yisman required that I send 6 a day to debt. For the last 6 months I have missed that requirement 3 times.

2. 3 times in 6 months.

3. 3 times in 6 months.

4. Do you incompetents understand this?

5. 3 times is also the number that I have screwed up Sunday tournament staking....I compensated him for that by adding that to my debt total.

6. During this time I have paid back over 4,000 points.

7. Over 4,000 points have be paid back to yisman

8. That's 4,000 points that have been borrowed and paid back.

9. I have to repeat myself, because idiots around here make assumptions and jump to conclusions.

10. 4,000 points have been borrowed and paid back.

None of this crap explains away YOUR STEALING.

Nice try tho.

Wait, actually... it isn't even a very good try:

"Yeah judge... I DID rob the bank but I have an account there so can't we just call it a "forced loan" kinda thing and just add what I stole to what I promise -- "cough, cough* -- to deposit later?"

Seriously CS... do the people around you buy this kinda horseshit from you on a daily basis?

Obviously they must... least you're in the right profession. Water does seek its level.

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STASH!... be smart buddy... STOP now, he WILL screw you and yis in the end.
(again, read PO's points about RO scamming)

[playersonly69]

Carseller told me a few weeks ago how he can try and cheat the staker in his rollover points. Now he doesnt say the word cheat, but he was explaining why he bought in for such a small stake.


Ok lets say that he wins 200 points in todays tournament. Now when I win 200, I will immediately buyin at the ring games like everyone else with all 200.

But I noticed that carseller bought in for a much smaller amount many weeks ago and I was in the same tournament. I asked him why he didnt buy in the whole amount that he won. We he bought in for 40 points I think which if the minimum at that table. He said that his points won were from someone staking him and he didnt want to lose all of hte points at once. Fair enough, but then he elaborated later.

He said that what he usually tries to do is buy in multiple times at 40 and maybe he loses 160 points and just says that he lost the rollover. Meanwhile, he still keep 40 points sitting in his poker account for a later time to hopefully rollover. Now any points won later would NOT go to the original backer since he claimed to have lost those that day.


This really only works if you would have a big rollover of over 100 points for instance. His backer would never really know how many times he buys in for 25 points at a table.





But this is his strategy anyway

[Carseller4]

5 months equals approximately 150 days

I have paid out over 4000 points in that span

4000 divided by 150 is a 26 point a day average.

26 points a day even though I am only required to send 6.

Pretty good huh?

[playersonly69]

but you missed today!




And how many loan extentions did you get during that 4000 point payback???

[Carseller4]

Carseller told me a few weeks ago how he can try and cheat the staker in his rollover points. Now he doesnt say the word cheat, but he was explaining why he bought in for such a small stake.


Ok lets say that he wins 200 points in todays tournament. Now when I win 200, I will immediately buyin at the ring games like everyone else with all 200.

But I noticed that carseller bought in for a much smaller amount many weeks ago and I was in the same tournament. I asked him why he didnt buy in the whole amount that he won. We he bought in for 40 points I think which if the minimum at that table. He said that his points won were from someone staking him and he didnt want to lose all of hte points at once. Fair enough, but then he elaborated later.

He said that what he usually tries to do is buy in multiple times at 40 and maybe he loses 160 points and just says that he lost the rollover. Meanwhile, he still keep 40 points sitting in his poker account for a later time to hopefully rollover. Now any points won later would NOT go to the original backer since he claimed to have lost those that day.


This really only works if you would have a big rollover of over 100 points for instance. His backer would never really know how many times he buys in for 25 points at a table.





But this is his strategy anyway

I don't go all in with all my points because I don't want to lose it all on one all in hand.

I like to start small and hopefully not even touch what I have not used yet, and build up.

How you call this a scam, I have no idea.

[Carseller4]

That's also BS because anyone could see afterward a transfer from poker.

That would be a dead giveaway.

Stash and yisman are much smarter than you think they are.

[Mitchell88]

here are the facts, there are some here about 10 that run the site(posters) that are not under a SBR name. Otherwise you are shit to them. U think they give a fuk. they dont

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

Stash and yisman are much smarter than you think they are.

stash and yis are indeed smart... unfortunately, being smart couldn't prevent anyone from YOUR STEALING of yis's pts

That's what it was -- stone cold fact -- yis himself calling it what it was: THEFT

That makes you a THIEF by any reasonable definition.

OWN IT, ffs

[5mike5]

stash and yis are indeed smart... unfortunately, being smart couldn't prevent anyone from YOUR STEALING of yis's pts

That's what it was -- stone cold fact -- yis himself calling it what it was: THEFT

That makes you a THIEF by any reasonable definition.

OWN IT, ffs

exactly...well said

[secretstash]

That's also BS because anyone could see afterward a transfer from poker.

That would be a dead giveaway.

Stash and yisman are much smarter than you think they are.

stash and yis are indeed smart... unfortunately, being smart couldn't prevent anyone from YOUR STEALING of yis's pts

That's what it was -- stone cold fact -- yis himself calling it what it was: THEFT

That makes you a THIEF by any reasonable definition.

OWN IT, ffs

I agree with both sides of this coin... you stole from yisman blatantly carseller.. but po69 too many of us see his poker transactions.. I dont think this could be as lucrative as you make it seem.. beyond that downsouth and others can attest that his rollover play isnt stellar and therefore it makes sense why he isnt rolling over.. I wish he wasnt so impatient myself.. but in the end I just do the staking to help the guy pay his debts and hope to break even.. if I make pts off of it in bunches I surely would be surprised.

-stash

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

Cut bait, stash... nuff's enuff buddy

And you know this is coming from a guy that has gifted carseller pts numerous times and has tried to help him also

BUT... stop thinking of him as a gambling degenerate... but rather, what he's PROVED himself to be.

A THIEF
Thieves don't deserve help... they need to be shown consequences for their thievery.

[Carseller4]

Cut bait, stash... nuff's enuff buddy

And you know this is coming from a guy that has gifted carseller pts numerous times and has tried to help him also

BUT... stop thinking of him as a gambling degenerate... but rather, what he's PROVED himself to be.

A THIEF
Thieves don't deserve help... they need to be shown consequences for their thievery.

I never claimed to be perfect.

I sometimes make mistakes...always compensate for them though.

Hell, every lender on SBR knows I screw up sometimes.

[Carseller4]

I once took points meant for charity to the casino.

Made up for it a week later.

It happens.

[Wulfman14]

i dont think you should do it stashy. i have also PMed you about it. cs hardly cashes in poker now. his play has been figured out by all.
but i disagree with you PO. i think if i make say a 200 pt chunk payment to my lender , that i should at least have a week to do whatever i want with my daily points. thats what ive been doing.

its over cs man. the godess of sbr Shari has put the hammer down on you. when she posts you listen man. when she called me out for taking out 8 loans to play a poker tourney i didnt take part in (poker playing binge which i apologize to all 8 lenders for) , look how quickly i turned things around. paid off all 8 lenders within 10 days. when shari or lou gets involved you better just stop and do what they say.

[ProPicker713]

i dont think you should do it stashy. i have also PMed you about it. cs hardly cashes in poker now. his play has been figured out by all.
but i disagree with you PO. i think if i make say a 200 pt chunk payment to my lender , that i should at least have a week to do whatever i want with my daily points. thats what ive been doing.

See, here's the thing Wulf, The reason PO said that is because Carseller made an agreement to Yis of the daily points that why it's only right. See on the other hand you told suman and agreed to pay in chunks so your right on your end but cs4 is wrong on his end.

[playersonly69]

I give up! yisman doesnt seem appreciative of my efforts and secretstash wont even give him one day off.



The loan doesnt involve me at all and neither does the staking. So do what you want carseller, I dont give a penetrate anymore. At least play some BlackjackSwitch in the SBR book. That game is actually fun and seems to be more honest.


Keep 'LIVING THE DREAM' carseller and maybe you will one day hit 25 hands in a row in blackjack!

[Carseller4]

I give up! yisman doesnt seem appreciative of my efforts and secretstash wont even give him one day off.



The loan doesnt involve me at all and neither does the staking. So do what you want carseller, I dont give a penetrate anymore. At least play some BlackjackSwitch in the SBR book. That game is actually fun and seems to be more honest.


Keep 'LIVING THE DREAM' carseller and maybe you will one day hit 25 hands in a row in blackjack!

So this was just a scam for points?

I can respect that.

See you at the 9PM poker tourney tonight.

[playersonly69]

I forgot to unregister for the 9pm! I played in the 3pm though even though I forgot and showed up 10 minutes late.

You need to play in the 7pm carseller. Looks to be a light turnout in the 7pm

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

So this was just a scam for points?

I can respect that.

Telling

[playersonly69]

carseller,

The 11pm usually has a smaller turnout

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

Any points transactions sent to Carseller until his loans are paid off will be cancelled. This is in effect as of the time he announced his latest bankruptcy as I haven't yet checked his transactions.

If that puts you into the hole Carseller based on the time difference by the time I check, so be it. Enough is enough now.

Guess the proper plan to have CS's point transactions canceled hit a serious snag.....

Just like a porn scene... it's always about the EXECUTION.