[EaglesPhan36]

2 early starts. Sorry I don't have the 1st inning run breakdowns like stingy - not sure where he gets those!

Dodgers/D-Backs: Kuroda/Owings
Neither pitcher gave up a 1st inning run in their first start. Dodgers top 3-4 hitters have had some success vs. him, but nothing huge. Kuroda making his 2nd MLB start should still have an advantage over hitters seeing him for the 1st time. Both games in this series have however featured alot of 1st inning runs.

Tribe/Halos: Byrd/Moseley
Sizemore & Hafner have career HRs and decent #s vs. Moseley. Moseley did not give up a 1st inning run vs. TX despite getting rocked in general. Top 4 Halos batters have solid #s vs. Byrd. Same case as against Westbrook who held them to a scoreless first last night. Byrd did not give up a run in the 1st in his opening start. Both games in the series have gone scorless in the 1st. No runs yielded in first inning starts by these 2 starters in games vs. these opponents last year (3).

Both are at -110 for NO SCORE currently. I think the LA game has a better shot, but you probably would have said that in the first two games there. CLE/LA more dicey for sure.

[CashMoney]

F***CK!G BETUS!!!!!!!!!!

Damn site is down and I can't get my plays in. Was going to roll with a No 1st Inning on both games and wanted to take AZ on the moneyline.

Whatch all freakin bets come through

[The_Kid]

F***CK!G BETUS!!!!!!!!!!

Damn site is down and I can't get my plays in. Was going to roll with a No 1st Inning on both games and wanted to take AZ on the moneyline.

Whatch all freakin bets come through

Dude, I'm having the same problem!!

[chinodeft26]

cash did you end up getting those bets in in time?

[EaglesPhan36]

Both had no scores ... both had some majorly dicey moments to get there!

[chipski]

wow , nice and very good thread here .
do we put our selections on here ?
if so I like
Twins to score first - 120
Phils to score first to score first -115
Braves to score first -155

[EaglesPhan36]

Yeah feel free to add. I am going to try to find out from stingyrivers where he gets those 1st inn. stats because I usually have time to post before first pitches. Any help is always appreciated.

[CashMoney]

cash did you end up getting those bets in in time?

Nope What a crock of s**t! Would have hit on both no run 1st innnings and the Dodgers/Dbacks U5 in the 1st 5 innings.

Could have called it a day at that point. Now watch me f**k up my plays for tonight

[accuscoresucks]

yo guys had my fun for day with no in the cle/anh x
1-0 props,going to ride the rest of my card out looking for a cash

gl today

[CashMoney]

Yeah feel free to add. I am going to try to find out from stingyrivers where he gets those 1st inn. stats because I usually have time to post before first pitches. Any help is always appreciated.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/

All the stats you can ever want.

[CashMoney]

Going no with the following on the 7:05/7:10 games.

Cubs/Pirates
Tigers/Redsox
Phillies/Mets
Marlins/Nationals

[EaglesPhan36]

Cubs/Pirates: Dempster/Duke
Dempster: 114 runs in 163 IP, 187 hits, 115 bb, 23 HR
Duke: 57 runs in 68 IP, 107 hits, 18 bb, 8 HR
*You shouldn't need a rocket scientist to either pass or bet YES on a score.

A's/Jays: G.Smith/McGowan
Smith: NO INFO
McGowan: 30 runs in 38 IP, 42 hits, 21 bb, 5 HR
*McGowan alone should scare you. This again looks like a pass or a vote for a YES score.

M's/Rays: Washburn/Sonnanstine
Washburn: 99 runs in 247 IP, 211 hits, 85 bb, 22 HR
Sonnanstine: 11 runs in 23 IP, 20 hits, 10 bb, 1 HR
*#s are good, but Ichiro, Beltre and Sexson have some hits off Sonnanstine in limited ABs. Crawford & Pena have done well off Washburn. Probably 60-40 or greater lean to a NO SCORE still based on pitchers stats.

Marlins/Nats: Olsen/Bergmann
Olsen: 36 runs in 69 IP, 75 hits, 26 bb, 8 HR
Bergmann: 14 runs in 29 IP, 21 hits, 16 bb, 4 HR
*Florida's 1-4 have had moderate success of Bergmann. If he gets to #5 and Jacobs, it's a score for sure. Jacobs owns the guy. No standouts in the H2H with Nats batters vs. Olsen. Overall, this is probably a decent wager although I would advise small

[CashMoney]

Cubs/Pirates: Dempster/Duke
Dempster: 114 runs in 163 IP, 187 hits, 115 bb, 23 HR
Duke: 57 runs in 68 IP, 107 hits, 18 bb, 8 HR
*You shouldn't need a rocket scientist to either pass or bet YES on a score.

A's/Jays: G.Smith/McGowan
Smith: NO INFO
McGowan: 30 runs in 38 IP, 42 hits, 21 bb, 5 HR
*McGowan alone should scare you. This again looks like a pass or a vote for a YES score.

M's/Rays: Washburn/Sonnanstine
Washburn: 99 runs in 247 IP, 211 hits, 85 bb, 22 HR
Sonnanstine: 11 runs in 23 IP, 20 hits, 10 bb, 1 HR
*#s are good, but Ichiro, Beltre and Sexson have some hits off Sonnanstine in limited ABs. Crawford & Pena have done well off Washburn. Probably 60-40 or greater lean to a NO SCORE still based on pitchers stats.

Marlins/Nats: Olsen/Bergmann
Olsen: 36 runs in 69 IP, 75 hits, 26 bb, 8 HR
Bergmann: 14 runs in 29 IP, 21 hits, 16 bb, 4 HR
*Florida's 1-4 have had moderate success of Bergmann. If he gets to #5 and Jacobs, it's a score for sure. Jacobs owns the guy. No standouts in the H2H with Nats batters vs. Olsen. Overall, this is probably a decent wager although I would advise small

The career 1st inning numbers are real deceptive. It's ok to use as a gauge but you also have to look at different factors.

Dempster was OK as a starter but was also a close last year and normally pitched a scoreless 1st. Duke is still young and although his ERA was high last year his career numbers against the Cubbies arer pretty good.

I think either way is still a 50/50 bet. Considering more 1st inning runs have been scored than none over the last few days I think I have a decent shot at 3-1. Hopefully I'm right....

[EaglesPhan36]

Yeah I will continue to maintain this bet is still like flipping a coin due to the one mistake pitch factor and you have a long ball on the board.

[CashMoney]

3-1 .... I'll take it. 5-1 would have been better.

[heymikeyyyyy]

Yeah feel free to add. I am going to try to find out from stingyrivers where he gets those 1st inn. stats because I usually have time to post before first pitches. Any help is always appreciated.

I think stingyrivers uses http://www.baseball-reference.com/ for all his 1st inn. stats

[imgv94]

I would of been all over SF/SD no first.. wasn't home

[ChuteBoxe]

See what happens bud? Out getting laid by two broads at one time, and you're losing money.