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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    I was lucky enough to get the Over at 8.5 (-120). Side is tough here though, Moseley is mediocre at best and Cahill may be the best pitcher in baseball nobody knows about. BUT, the Yankees reached him for six runs the only time he faced them and that was in pitcher's park in Oakland. Balls fly out of new Yankee Stadium when whether is warm. I'd pass the game total at 9.5, but if you can find a 9, just play the Over and forget about any side.


    Sinker pitcher against a team that plays small ball, what's your conclusion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grecdogg View Post
    Thats good info... I hope vegas doesn't know something that we dont know... They usually do
    Probably means that these teams always lose by 1 run since I'm on the ML.

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    When the Yanks are -125 at home stay the F**k away!!!!!!!!! Go with oakland tonight then yanks the next two nights.....

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    Yea, like I said before, I like the yanks, but is a no play for me. I see a lot of value in the WSox playin Clev. On the WSox big

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    gotta go yanks here... nuff said

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    was just reading about cahill, his numbers are a little deceiving according to his stats. he has the lowest babip in the league at .204 which is insanely low, also his career babip is much higher, which makes it more likely he is getting lucky with that number. if you don't believe in these stats or don't know what they are just ignore me, but some interesting info

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamble View Post
    was just reading about cahill, his numbers are a little deceiving according to his stats. he has the lowest babip in the league at .204 which is insanely low, also his career babip is much higher, which makes it more likely he is getting lucky with that number. if you don't believe in these stats or don't know what they are just ignore me, but some interesting info
    Team defense affects babip. Oakland is focusing more on defense this year. Could that be the reason?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    I was lucky enough to get the Over at 8.5 (-120). Side is tough here though, Moseley is mediocre at best and Cahill may be the best pitcher in baseball nobody knows about. BUT, the Yankees reached him for six runs the only time he faced them and that was in pitcher's park in Oakland. Balls fly out of new Yankee Stadium when whether is warm.

    I'd pass the game total at 9.5, but if you can find a 9, just play the Over and forget about any side.


    yeah but in that game cahill allowed a grand slam to AROD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by curious View Post
    Team defense affects babip. Oakland is focusing more on defense this year. Could that be the reason?
    yea better defense will be a reason for a lower babip, so that could be affecting it as well, that's why you can't always take anything definitive away from these stats

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    Quote Originally Posted by curious View Post
    I have found a correlation of the delta between the line and RL for dogs and probability of winning SU. The more extreme the RL line is compared to the ML, the higher the probability that the dog will win.

    Oakland is +115 yet the RL is -185. All the other teams that are +115 (or close to it) have RL of -140, -145, -150.


    I have been using this method as well.

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    When yanks are at home they are useally no less than -180. when they are below -180 they tend to lose. I don't have stats on this but from my history of wagering on them you don't get a line this low on the yanks (at home) for no reason. I look at this play two ways either go with yankees at this price just for the fact they are the better team and you wouldn't mind losing (it's worth a shot) or just stay away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texan81 View Post
    When yanks are at home they are useally no less than -180. when they are below -180 they tend to lose. I don't have stats on this but from my history of wagering on them you don't get a line this low on the yanks (at home) for no reason. I look at this play two ways either go with yankees at this price just for the fact they are the better team and you wouldn't mind losing (it's worth a shot) or just stay away.
    Im stayin away... as much as i want to be on them... There is just way to much info to bet on them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    I have been using this method as well.
    yes plus the total is not low either. sometimes when you get a low total the run line is higher even at +115. that isn't the case here.

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    Cahill is the best pitcher in the matchup but he'll get rocked. Considering taking Yankees TT over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauulzcappin View Post
    Cahill is the best pitcher in the matchup but he'll get rocked. Considering taking Yankees TT over.
    liking yanks alsooo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauulzcappin View Post
    Cahill is the best pitcher in the matchup but he'll get rocked. Considering taking Yankees TT over.
    good luck homer

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    Quote Originally Posted by boeing power View Post
    good luck homer
    thanks hater, how about some insight on the game instead of coming in and talking crap only?

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    The thing with the yanks is, there is so much offensive fire power. Every night it seems like there is a dif hero, meaning someone always steps up, if its not Cano its Swisher, or Granderson or Jorge or the old timers like Thames or the Rookie 3B... They always find a way.... Im still stayin away lol

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    im on yanks. i will be back later tonight to bash the haters after a win

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    yanks are 3-8 this season as a home fav between -125 to -150

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    Quote Originally Posted by og4667 View Post
    yanks are 3-8 this season as a home fav between -125 to -150
    dammm brah, where do you find these stats! Im not bashing ya, Im impressed

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    ON NYY ML myself

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    scoresandodds.com

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    movement on the total is crazy, somebody is gonna get rocked.

    A's vs Mosley .410 avg 39 AB 2 HR 6 RBI 452 OBP
    Yanks (current lineup) vs Cahill .136 Avg 22 AB 0 HR 1 RBI 240 OBP

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    Line is coming down on Yanks favor with the public split.

    That's pretty funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texan81 View Post
    When yanks are at home they are useally no less than -180. when they are below -180 they tend to lose. I don't have stats on this but from my history of wagering on them you don't get a line this low on the yanks (at home) for no reason. I look at this play two ways either go with yankees at this price just for the fact they are the better team and you wouldn't mind losing (it's worth a shot) or just stay away.
    The Yankees are 4-10 this year at home when the line is < -100 and > -151

    Sample size is too small to make any conclusions from that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grecdogg View Post
    dammm brah, where do you find these stats! Im not bashing ya, Im impressed
    www.sportsdatabase.com

    team='Yankees' and season=2010 and site=home and line <=-125 and line >=-150

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauulzcappin View Post
    thanks hater, how about some insight on the game instead of coming in and talking crap only?
    not playing this game but oak and under if i had to , cahill is a stud and will keep this game close

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    On Oakland. Cahill pitching really well this year.

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    cahill = very good.

    he's also the type of pitcher that if he gets it slightly wrong, the yanks will pounce, so no play for me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauulzcappin View Post
    Cahill is the best pitcher in the matchup but he'll get rocked. Considering taking Yankees TT over.
    3rd inning and 5 earned runs, back to back homers also

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    More importantly, game went Over in fourth inning so I was able to catch up on some sleep.

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