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    Early game-Cardinals/Reds

    Anyone like the under 7.5?


    I need a early bird special for today......whats the best play for this game

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    Under is due

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    Under is due
    I don't like taking Waino unders on the road. He's not quite as lights out away from StL, yet the lines typically read like he is.

    Notice the immediate jump from opening at 7 to 7.5.

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    true but I see lines at 7-130 over

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    over again. IMO

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    Wainwright's given up 6 ER in 13 IP vs. CIN this year.

    Wainwright's 5-6 on the road.

    Arroyo's given up 10 ER in 21.1 IP vs. StL this year.

    Arroyo has a 4.17 ERA at home.

    Hitters know both pitchers well, having faced these guys for a third and fourth time this season, respectively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    true but I see lines at 7-130 over
    We'll see where it goes from here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Wainwright's given up 6 ER in 13 IP vs. CIN this year.

    Wainwright's 5-6 on the road.

    Arroyo's given up 10 ER in 21.1 IP vs. StL this year.

    Arroyo has a 4.17 ERA at home.

    Hitters know both pitchers well, having faced these guys for a third and fourth time this season, respectively.
    yea but day stats are a whole different beast

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    yea but day stats are a whole different beast
    They've both been excellent during the day, true.

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    This game is a bitch to cap...

    Arroyo had nasty shit on his last start, Reds playing at home to avoid being swept.

    On the other side we have arguably the hottest pitcher in baseball right now, with a day ERA of 1.45.

    I'm leaning Cards. Reds let me down so much and they can kiss my ass, Cards are taking the division.

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    wainwright's record is bad on the road, not his ERA, lets get that straight. he is solid on the road, maybe not quite as dominant but he just threw a shutout against the fish on the road last week

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamble View Post
    wainwright's record is bad on the road, not his ERA, lets get that straight. he is solid on the road, maybe not quite as dominant but he just threw a shutout against the fish on the road last week
    Reds are a little tougher offensively than the Marlins.

    Don't get me wrong -- I love Wainwright and will be taking StL here. It's no sure thing, though.

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    If the line-up is there, you have to take Cards the way they are hitting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Reds are a little tougher offensively than the Marlins. Don't get me wrong -- I love Wainwright and will be taking StL here. It's no sure thing, though.
    oh i know, i'm just saying, his poor road record is definitely because of the cardinals hitting being inconsistent on the road. I agree with you though, not a sure thing but waino is definitely the side to be on

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    Wow, Ramon Hernandez destroys Waino

    Good thing Hanigan is catching tomorrow for Arroyo.

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    solid post here, after seeing this I am more confident in the cards sweeping tomorrow.

    i really think phillips pissed some people off with his comments, we all know he pissed Molina off, he lit a fire under this team and they're getting swept tomorrow

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    Pujols hits arroyo pretty good - Cards ML

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    Under is due
    Nothing against you, but I just hate when someone says this. No total can be "due" to hit. Just doesn't work like that.

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    alot of people are on the under so far.. dont like it but i would go over if i had to choose

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    Leaning on over

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    I have this game on the over, but hack what do I know, I'm a little gambling here =)

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