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    apom12
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    Cin +125

    Cubs have failed it up lately, couldnt get it done with Silva on the mound... CIN is 8-2 in their last 10, and have won 4 straight on the road...

    I'm thinking of putting a few units on the Reds here, while Arroyo hasn't been an ace, I don't see how the Cubs are favored here....

    I smell something fishy with this line.....

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    +127 at Pinnacle. I'm on this heavy. Dempster has 3 straight QS but it has been against weaker teams. He is gonna get rocked tonight.

    Putting a few on the alternate RL when it comes up, should be +200 atleast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by encephalization View Post
    +127 at Pinnacle. I'm on this heavy. Dempster has 3 straight QS but it has been against weaker teams. He is gonna get rocked tonight.

    Putting a few on the alternate RL when it comes up, should be +200 atleast.
    I just don't see why the books have the Cubs favored.... I am thinking of going for the RRL as well, it just seems like too obvious of a choice

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    Quote Originally Posted by apom12 View Post
    I just don't see why the books have the Cubs favored.... I am thinking of going for the RRL as well, it just seems like too obvious of a choice
    Which is why the Cubs will win! Just watch. The books know what they're doing.

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    Cubes are and always will be a public team, so the line is always going to be off, I never try to justify the line, with the god awful Cubs.
    Cinn should be, a good play today.

    BOL

    Last edited by ShivaBowl; 07-02-10 at 04:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilforth View Post
    Which is why the Cubs will win! Just watch. The books know what they're doing.
    Cubs were favored yesterday too. They didn't win.
    Cubs are 1-4 in their last 5 games as a favorite... Unless the entire Reds lineup has the flu, the books are messing with us.

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    Agree that the Reds look like a good wager here! Good luck on your wagers................

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    StatFox Super Situations

    CIN at CHC
    Play
    Against - Any team (CHICAGO CUBS) bad offensive team (<=4.1 runs/game) against an average starting pitcher (ERA=4.20 to 5.20)-NL, after scoring and allowing 5 runs or less last 4 games
    42-19 since 1997. ( 68.9% | 25.0 units )

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    Reds have a ton of value being underdog today. Not saying it's a sure thing but seriously the Cubs have been awful this year. Gotta go where the greatest value is.

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    53735880-1 7/2/10 11:00am $400.00 $500.00 Pending 7/2/10 2:20pm* MLB*Baseball* 901 Cincinnati Reds +125* vs Chicago Cubs* (B Arroyo - R must Start***R Dempster - R must Start)

    Let's win this

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    at this point...yeah....the Cubs couldn't hit a garbage can

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    I know I'm not taking Cubs and Reds are hot.

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    cinncy and the over

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    Quote Originally Posted by apom12 View Post
    53735880-1 7/2/10 11:00am $400.00 $500.00 Pending 7/2/10 2:20pm* MLB*Baseball* 901 Cincinnati Reds +125* vs Chicago Cubs* (B Arroyo - R must Start***R Dempster - R must Start)

    Let's win this


    And even though Reds won last night, they should be out for revenge. Hitting 16-5 against and only winning 3-2 in extra innings must feel abit shitty. Time for Votto to get on the ribbie-train!

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    2 units on the big red machine for me

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    by Dan Bebe
    Reds @ Cubs (-130) with a total of N/A; B. Arroyo vs. R. Dempster;
    Orlando Cabrera is 4-for-6 off Dempster between '05 and '09;
    Ramon Hernandez was 3-for-6 with a HR and 3 RBI between '05 and '09;
    Scott Rolen was 3-for-8 with 2 RBI between '05 and '09;
    Marlon Byrd is 3-for-8 with a HR and 3 RBI off Arroyo;
    Mike Fontenot is 3-for-6 with a HR and 2 RBI off Arroyo;
    Xavier Nady is 6-for-19 with a HR and 4 RBI off Arroyo.

    Just a ton of player matchup data, and even a tiny bit more coming from Dempster's one start against Cincinnati earlier this year, in which he allowed 5 runs in 7 innings. Arroyo hasn't faced Chicago in 2010, but he is a solid 7-6 with a 3.06 ERA against the Cubbies prior to this year. Dempster is just 4-5 with a 4.18 ERA against the Reds, though his start this year did raise that number just a tad from its pre-2010 number. The Reds are a live dog, but not necessarily a winning one.
    Leans: Reds-2

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    I'm playing the Reds.

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    Well it's my play for the day time game - best of luck to everyone!

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    Just some "food for thought"


    Favoring: CINCINNATI on the money line.
    BRONSON ARROYO is 11-2 (+11.2 Units) against the money line in road games after a win over the last 2 seasons.
    The average score was ARROYO 4.5, OPPONENT 2.9

    Favoring: CINCINNATI on the money line.RYAN DEMPSTER is 7-16 (-14.4 Units) against the money line in day games over the last 2 seasons.
    The average score was DEMPSTER 3.9, OPPONENT 4.5

    CHICAGO CUBS are 4-14 (-16 Units) against the money line vs. a mediocre bullpen whose WHIP is 1.450 to 1.550 this season.
    The average score was CHICAGO CUBS 3.2, OPPONENT 5.3

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    Reds get it done..

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    On the Reds Good value

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    CINCY BATTING .309 in last ten against right handers!!!

    I took it at +115

    I will take more at +125!!!

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    Reds +131 at Matchbook.

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    Im on the Reds today as well. The Cubs are awefull and the Reds are rollin.GL everyone

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    everyone seems to be on the reds......so ill take the cubs gl all

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    i'd rather lose my money with the better team

    cubs just trash. they win maybe 2 out of every 10 games. fade em

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    Any ideas on the o/u?

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    With the offensive firepower the Reds have they are a good dog anytime.

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    im on reds aswell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilforth View Post
    Which is why the Cubs will win! Just watch. The books know what they're doing.
    More often it's a case that the betting public doesn't know what it's doing. The books made the Cubs a favorite against the miserable Pirates in all three games this week; Pittsburgh won two of three and the Cubs were fortunate to win the one they did. As long as the books are handing out free money by making the wrong team the favorite, take advantage of it.

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    The only time I took the Cubs this year Dempster was on the mound. Only guy I trust with my money when betting the cubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OMGRandyJackson View Post
    Any ideas on the o/u?
    I'm staying away from the totals. Thought about doing the TT over on the reds, but the cubs offense has been horrible so I stayed away from game total. I'm thinking it could easily be a 6-1 game if the reds hit like yesterday and actually score runs.

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    Loaded up on the Reds...BOL Everyone

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    just want to share a little info i came across a few mins ago. cubs for the year was not sweep by any team. looking at the remaining games in this series with reds, today is the best shot they have in winning a game. just my thinking. i am passing on this game awys. gl

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    Anyone wanna bet me 5 betpoints that Cubs will win this game?

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