1. #1
    J.M. Disciple
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    MLB totals Simple but Genius

    This is not a back tested system, but a live experiment on betting totals following the juice my book offers. I am basically betting 80% of the games for which ever side of the total has the highest juice using a simple money management strategy that I have found profitable over the last few weeks. I generally have a very busy work schedule so I can not guarantee this thread will run smoothly or have timely updates. However, I do believe we can all make a pretty penny with this money management strategy.

    You all have heard of the labby and martingale system before, well this is a hybrid of the two that allows you to bet all your games with out going too large. I will use a $10 unit size for this experiment and if it goes well, I will run a thread next season with a larger unit size. Oh the system basically works like this:

    Day 1: always risking the amount and not betting to win, just a matter of comfort for me. You would risk $10 every game for whichever side the highest juice is on. If its a winning day on day 2 you would keep your bet size the same. If its a losing day you simply increase your bet size half a unit so on and so forth until you reach a peak profit. If it ever gets out of hand I will cap my biggest bet at 5u per game or $50 for this experiment and except the loss and reset it back to $10. In theory it should almost never get that high. I would advocate a 200 unit bankroll for this because there is so much action.

    For anyone that is good at data mining something like this I more then welcome it because a manual back test would just take FOREVER! Which is why I am doing a live experiment with a small unit size. Oh if both sides of the game are -105 or -110 meaning equal to each other I skip the game.

    Good Luck Everyone. Here are today's plays.

    Record: 0-0-0
    Profit: $0.00

    Arz o6.5 (-125) $10 to win $8
    SD o9 (-120) $10 - $8.33
    Sea o9 (-120) $10 - $8.33
    min u8.5 (-120) $10 - $8.33
    Tor o9 (-125) $10-$8
    Mia u7 (-115) $10-$8.70
    Stl o7.5 (-115) $10-$8.70
    cle u7 (-125) $10-$8
    cin u7 (-125) $10-$8
    kc o7.5 (-115) $10-$8.70
    chc u7.5 (-125) $10-$8
    Phi o8 (-120) $10-$8.33


    This seems 5c higher today then my normal lines of -115 with only 1 or 2 games that are -120 on an average day. I use a local book, so maybe they are adjusting the lines because of the action I have been betting on the totals last couple weeks or just a coincidence. Will update late tonight.

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    I wish you much of luck mate. But just picking totals by the juice number.

    I have a feeling this doesn't gonna end good.

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    I am not too worried. Because I am not flat betting every game for the exact same amount. I understand how the book sets its line so it comes down to money management strategy. Looking like a small profit for today.

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    Arz o6.5 (-125) $10 to win $8 8
    SD o9 (-120) $10 - $8.33 8,33
    Sea o9 (-120) $10 - $8.33 -10
    min u8.5 (-120) $10 - $8.33 -10
    Tor o9 (-125) $10-$8 -10
    Mia u7 (-115) $10-$8.70 0
    Stl o7.5 (-115) $10-$8.70 8,7
    cle u7 (-125) $10-$8 8
    cin u7 (-125) $10-$8 8
    kc o7.5 (-115) $10-$8.70 8,7
    chc u7.5 (-125) $10-$8 8
    Phi o8 (-120) $10-$8.33 -10
    17,73


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    Here are todays Plays:

    CLE u8 to win $7.69
    atl o7 to win $8
    cin u7 to win $8
    phi o6.5 to win $8.33
    bos u9 to win $8
    tb u7.5 to win $8.33
    stl o7.5 to win $8.70
    min u9.5 to win $8.70
    tex u8.5 to win $8
    arz o7 to win $8.70
    det u8.5 to win $8.70

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    Record: 7-4-1
    Profit: $17.73 (1.7u)

    Good luck on todays action.

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    It is simple, the genius part will take a bit. Good start and hopefully more to come.

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    Daily Recap 9/7/2014
    Record: 6-4-1
    Profit: +$9.79

    Overall
    Record: 13-8-2 (61.9%)

    Profit: $27.52 (2.75u)
    Peak: $27.52
    Always good when a system starts off positive to build a cushion when the variance comes. Slow and steady for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.M. Disciple View Post
    Daily Recap 9/7/2014
    Record: 6-4-1
    Profit: +$9.79

    Overall
    Record: 13-8-2 (61.9%)

    Profit: $27.52 (2.75u)
    Peak: $27.52
    Always good when a system starts off positive to build a cushion when the variance comes. Slow and steady for now.
    Nice and GL

    Ali

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    Overall
    Record: 13-8-2 (61.9%)

    Profit: $27.52 (2.75u)
    Peak: $27.52

    Here are todays plays for 9/8
    Oak o8 to win $8.33
    mia o8 to win $8.70
    bos u9 to win $8.00
    cin u8 to win $8.70
    tor u8.5 to win $8.33
    phi u8.5 to win $8.33
    Det u8.5 to win $8.33
    Lad u6 to win $8.33




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    Daily update:
    Record: 5-3
    Profit: $12.06

    Overall
    Record: 18-11-2 (62.0%)

    Profit: $34.58 (3.45u)
    Peak: $34.58

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    Plays for 9/9/2014

    Pittsburgh Pirates / Philadelphia Phillies / 9/9/2014 4:05:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 8 -125 Risking $10.00 to win $8.00

    Atlanta Braves / Washington Nationals / 9/9/2014 4:05:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 7 -125 Risking $10.00 to win $8.00

    Kansas City Royals / Detroit Tigers / 9/9/2014 4:05:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Over 7 ½ -115 Risking $10.00 to win $8.70

    Minnesota Twins / Cleveland Indians / 9/9/2014 4:05:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 8 ½ -120 Risking $10.00 to win $8.33

    Tampa Bay Rays / New York Yankees / 9/9/2014 4:05:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Over 7 -120 Risking $10.00 to win $8.33

    Chicago Cubs / Toronto Blue Jays / 9/9/2014 4:05:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 8 -115 Risking $10.00 to win $8.70

    St. Louis Cardinals / Cincinnati Reds / 9/9/2014 4:10:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Over 7 -115 Risking $10.00 to win $8.70

    Los Angeles Angels / Texas Rangers / 9/9/2014 5:05:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 9 ½ -115 Risking $10.00 to win $8.70

    Miami Marlins / Milwaukee Brewers / 9/9/2014 5:10:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 8 -115 Risking $10.00 to win $8.70

    Oakland Athletics / Chicago White Sox / 9/9/2014 5:10:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Over 8 -115 Risking $10.00 to win $8.70

    Houston Astros / Seattle Mariners / 9/9/2014 7:10:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 7 -120 Risking $10.00 to win $8.33

    Arizona Diamondbacks / San Francisco Giants / 9/9/2014 7:15:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Over 6 ½ -120 Risking $10.00 to win $8.33

    Good Luck!

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    have u looked into backtesting it? would show u exactly what u need to c if this is successful or not. GL

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    Daily update:
    Record: 5-6 *(1 wager canceled due to pitching change in TB, would of been a tie)
    Profit: -$17.94

    Overall
    Record: 23-17-3 (57%)

    Profit: $16.64 (1.66u)
    Peak: $34.58

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    Baltimore Orioles / Boston Red Sox / 9/10/2014 10:35:00 AM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 9 -130 Risking $15.00 to win $11.54

    B. Workman Must start W.Y. Chen Must start

    Atlanta Braves / Washington Nationals / 9/10/2014 1:05:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Over 7 -120 Risking $15.00 to win $12.50

    A. Harang Must start S. Strasburg Must start

    Pittsburgh Pirates / Philadelphia Phillies / 9/10/2014 4:05:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Over 8 -120 Risking $15.00 to win $12.50

    V. Worley Must start J. Williams Must start

    Minnesota Twins / Cleveland Indians / 9/10/2014 4:05:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Over 8 -115 Risking $15.00 to win $13.04

    K. Gibson Must start T. House Must start

    Kansas City Royals / Detroit Tigers / 9/10/2014 4:05:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Over 7 ½ -115 Risking $15.00 to win $13.04

    J. Shields Must start R. Porcello Must start

    Tampa Bay Rays / New York Yankees / 9/10/2014 4:05:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 8 -115 Risking $15.00 to win $13.04

    C. Capuano Must start J. Odorizzi Must start

    Chicago Cubs / Toronto Blue Jays / 9/10/2014 4:05:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Over 8 -120 Risking $15.00 to win $12.50

    K. Hendricks Must start D. Hutchison Must start

    Colorado Rockies / New York Mets / 9/10/2014 4:10:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 7 ½ -130 Risking $15.00 to win $11.54

    R. Montero Must start T. Matzek Must start

    St. Louis Cardinals / Cincinnati Reds / 9/10/2014 4:10:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 7 ½ -115 Risking $15.00 to win $13.04

    A. Simon Must start J. Lackey Must start

    Los Angeles Angels / Texas Rangers / 9/10/2014 5:05:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 9 ½ -115 Risking $15.00 to win $13.04

    N. Tepesch Must start M. Shoemaker Must start

    Miami Marlins / Milwaukee Brewers / 9/10/2014 5:10:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 8 ½ -115 Risking $15.00 to win $13.04

    W. Peralta Must start J. Cosart Must start

    Oakland Athletics / Chicago White Sox / 9/10/2014 5:10:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Over 8 ½ -115 Risking $15.00 to win $13.04

    J. Samardzija Must start C. Bassitt Must start

    Arizona Diamondbacks / San Francisco Giants / 9/10/2014 7:15:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 7 -115 Risking $15.00 to win $13.04

    R. Vogelsong Must start J. Collmenter Must start
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    Daily update: 9/10/2014
    Record: 8-4-1
    Profit: +$41.20

    Overall
    Record: 31-21-4 (59%)

    Profit: $57.84 (5.78u)
    Peak: $57.84

    Here are today's plays 9/11/2014

    St. Louis Cardinals / Cincinnati Reds / 9/11/2014 9:35:00 AM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Over 6 ½ -120 Risking $10.00 to win $8.33

    L. Lynn Must start J. Cueto Must start

    Minnesota Twins GM2 / Cleveland Indians GM2 / 9/11/2014 12:05:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 8 ½ -120 Risking $10.00 to win $8.33

    T. House Must start R. Nolasco Must start

    Arizona Diamondbacks / San Francisco Giants / 9/11/2014 12:45:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Over 7 -115 Risking $10.00 to win $8.70

    R. Delgado Must start J. Peavy Must start

    Pittsburgh Pirates / Philadelphia Phillies / 9/11/2014 4:05:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 7 ½ -115 Risking $10.00 to win $8.70

    A. J. Burnett Must start F. Liriano Must start

    Washington Nationals / New York Mets / 9/11/2014 4:10:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 7 -115 Risking $10.00 to win $8.70

    B. Colon Must start T. Roark Must start

    Los Angeles Angels / Texas Rangers / 9/11/2014 5:05:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 9 ½ -125 Risking $10.00 to win $8.00

    N. Martinez Must start C. Rasmus Must start

    Miami Marlins / Milwaukee Brewers / 9/11/2014 5:10:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 7 ½ -120 Risking $10.00 to win $8.33

    M. Fiers Must start N. Eovaldi Must start

    Boston Red Sox / Kansas City Royals / 9/11/2014 5:10:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Over 7 -120 Risking $10.00 to win $8.33

    C. Buchholz Must start L. Hendriks Must start


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    ch_theos
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    So your going with the highest juiced side on opener? Cause by the time it closes the other side could be more juiced. Also are you using pinnacles lines?

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    I am using a local book. Whatever the line is before I bet it in the morning. If you get a better line then myself then good for you, but yes basically off the opener before I start work in the morning. If it switches to the other side before the game starts I dont care, my bet is already placed and posted. Just a live experiment that seems to be working over a short sample.

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    JM you love these systems don't you? So do I! This one is about as simple as I have seen but so far, it's working. I've only been tailing on this site for 8 months, but its seems like the good systems really will work if you are disciplined and patient.

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    Daily update from 9/11/2014
    Record: 5-3-0
    profit: +$12.39

    Overall
    Record: 36-24-4 (60%)

    Profit: $70.23 (7.0u)
    Peak: $70.23

    Todays plays:

    New York Yankees / Baltimore Orioles / 9/12/2014 10:05:00 AM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 8 -125 Risking $10.00 to win $8.00

    K. Gausman Must start B. McCarthy Must start

    Chicago Cubs / Pittsburgh Pirates / 9/12/2014 4:05:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 7 -120 Risking $10.00 to win $8.33

    G. Cole Must start T. Wada Must start

    New York Yankees / Baltimore Orioles / 9/12/2014 4:05:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Over 8 ½ -115 Risking $10.00 to win $8.70

    B. Mitchell Must start B. Norris Must start

    Tampa Bay Rays / Toronto Blue Jays / 9/12/2014 4:05:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 8 ½ -120 Risking $10.00 to win $8.33

    J.A. Happ Must start N. Karns Must start

    Cleveland Indians / Detroit Tigers / 9/12/2014 4:05:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 7 -115 Risking $10.00 to win $8.70

    D. Price Must start C. Carrasco Must start

    Washington Nationals / New York Mets / 9/12/2014 4:10:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 7 -125 Risking $10.00 to win $8.00

    D. Gee Must start G. Gonzalez Must start

    Atlanta Braves / Texas Rangers / 9/12/2014 5:05:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 7 ½ -125 Risking $10.00 to win $8.00

    D. Holland Must start A. Wood Must start

    Minnesota Twins / Chicago White Sox / 9/12/2014 5:10:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 7 ½ -130 Risking $10.00 to win $7.69

    J. Quintana Must start P. Hughes Must start

    Boston Red Sox / Kansas City Royals / 9/12/2014 5:10:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Over 7 -115 Risking $10.00 to win $8.70

    A. Webster Must start Y. Ventura Must start

    Colorado Rockies / St. Louis Cardinals / 9/12/2014 5:15:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 7 -120 Risking $10.00 to win $8.33

    A. Wainwright Must start J. De La Rosa Must start

    San Diego Padres / Arizona Diamondbacks / 9/12/2014 6:40:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 8 -115 Risking $10.00 to win $8.70

    V. Nuno Must start E. Stults Must start

    Houston Astros / Los Angeles Angels / 9/12/2014 7:05:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Over 8 ½ -115 Risking $10.00 to win $8.70

    B. Oberholtzer Must start C. Wilson Must start

    Oakland Athletics / Seattle Mariners / 9/12/2014 7:10:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 7 -120 Risking $10.00 to win $8.33

    J. Paxton Must start J. Hammel Must start

    Los Angeles Dodgers / San Francisco Giants / 9/12/2014 7:15:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 6 ½ -120 Risking $10.00 to win $8.33

    M. Bumgarner Must start H.J. Ryu Must start

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    Daily update from 9/12/2014
    Record: 6-6-1 (also 1 wager canceled ppd)
    profit: -$10.31

    Overall
    Record: 42-30-5(58%)

    Profit: $59.92 (5.9u)
    Peak: $70.23

    Todays plays:
    Cleveland Indians / Detroit Tigers / 9/13/2014 4:05:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Over 7 ½ -120 Risking $15.00 to win $12.50

    D. Salazar Must start K. Lobstein Must start

    Cincinnati Reds / Milwaukee Brewers / 9/13/2014 4:10:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Over 8 -115 Risking $15.00 to win $13.04

    D. Holmberg Must start Y. Gallardo Must start

    Washington Nationals / New York Mets / 9/13/2014 4:10:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Over 6 ½ -115 Risking $15.00 to win $13.04

    D. Fister Must start Z. Wheeler Must start

    Boston Red Sox / Kansas City Royals / 9/13/2014 4:10:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 7 ½ -115 Risking $15.00 to win $13.04

    J. Guthrie Must start R. De La Rosa Must start

    Colorado Rockies / St. Louis Cardinals / 9/13/2014 4:15:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 7 -115 Risking $15.00 to win $13.04

    S. Miller Must start F. Morales Must start

    San Diego Padres / Arizona Diamondbacks / 9/13/2014 5:10:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 7 ½ -120 Risking $15.00 to win $12.50

    C. Anderson Must start T. Ross Must start

    Los Angeles Dodgers / San Francisco Giants / 9/13/2014 6:05:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 6 ½ -115 Risking $15.00 to win $13.04

    T. Hudson Must start Z. Greinke Must start

    Houston Astros / Los Angeles Angels / 9/13/2014 6:05:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Over 8 -120 Risking $15.00 to win $12.50

    S. Feldman Must start Jd. Weaver Must start


    Lim
    ted action today as some games are not available on my book this early. Still decent amount of action. GOod Luck

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    daily update
    record: 2-6-0
    profit: -$64.46

    Overall
    Record: 44-36-5(55%)

    Profit: -$4.54 (0.4u)
    Peak: $70.23

    no one panic, will only take 1 day to make this back maybe 2 days. part of the variance. Here are tomorrow's plays.

    Tampa Bay Rays / Toronto Blue Jays / 9/14/2014 10:05:00 AM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 8 -115 Risking $20.00 to win $17.39

    M. Buehrle Must start C. Archer Must start

    Washington Nationals / New York Mets / 9/14/2014 10:10:00 AM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 7 -125 Risking $20.00 to win $16.00

    J. Niese Must start J. Zimmermann Must start

    Chicago Cubs / Pittsburgh Pirates / 9/14/2014 10:35:00 AM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 7 ½ -120 Risking $20.00 to win $16.67

    E. Volquez Must start J. Turner Must start

    Miami Marlins / Philadelphia Phillies / 9/14/2014 10:35:00 AM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 8 -125 Risking $20.00 to win $16.00

    D. Buchanan Must start T. Koehler Must start

    Cincinnati Reds / Milwaukee Brewers / 9/14/2014 11:10:00 AM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 8 -125 Risking $20.00 to win $16.00

    M. Garza Must start M. Leake Must start

    Boston Red Sox / Kansas City Royals / 9/14/2014 11:10:00 AM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 8 -125 Risking $20.00 to win $16.00

    J. Vargas Must start J. Kelly Must start

    Minnesota Twins / Chicago White Sox / 9/14/2014 11:10:00 AM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 9 -125 Risking $20.00 to win $16.00

    H. Noesi Must start T. May Must start

    Colorado Rockies / St. Louis Cardinals / 9/14/2014 11:15:00 AM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 7 ½ -125 Risking $20.00 to win $16.00

    M. Gonzales Must start J. Lyles Must start

    Atlanta Braves / Texas Rangers / 9/14/2014 12:05:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 7 ½ -120 Risking $20.00 to win $16.67

    C. Lewis Must start M. Minor Must start

    Houston Astros / Los Angeles Angels / 9/14/2014 12:35:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Over 8 ½ -115 Risking $20.00 to win $17.39

    D. Keuchel Must start H. Santiago Must start

    Los Angeles Dodgers / San Francisco Giants / 9/14/2014 1:05:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 6 -115 Risking $20.00 to win $17.39

    Y. Petit Must start C. Kershaw Must start

    San Diego Padres / Arizona Diamondbacks / 9/14/2014 1:10:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 8 -115 Risking $20.00 to win $17.39

    T. Cahill Must start O. Despaigne Must start

    Oakland Athletics / Seattle Mariners / 9/14/2014 1:10:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 7 -125 Risking $20.00 to win $16.00

    C. Young Must start J. Lester Must start

    New York Yankees / Baltimore Orioles / 9/14/2014 5:05:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 7 ½ -120 Risking $20.00 to win $16.67

    C. Tillman Must start H. Kuroda Must start

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    Off to a really bad start to end the week.

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    Practically every pen has collapsed in at least 4 games to give up what were easy wins and turning them to losses. Scary

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    Still love what you are doing here, JM. We try to match up our unders with these.

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    Hopefully football can bail me out with some live bets. Just a few small ones. Hopefully even or down just a little on the week.

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    This is insane. The one game we go over on is going to go under. We're now 2-9 and the Dodgers can only push at best. Wow.

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    nba coming soon JM

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    looks good to me…most of all if it works
    now 2 ideas from the top of my head
    * consider first 5 innings only
    * watch for late line changes…like your system will take an 8.5u -120 but what if it used to be 8o -120 because the over is the right move and the book adjusted…just a thought

    nice work

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    Too hard to keep track of line movement and replace my bets while I am at work. As I stated before, whatever I post becomes official for me. I am considering doing a similar system with NFL and NBA, but most lines are the same at my book for the totals for these sports. Might have to base it off on SBR odds or another book. Want to see how this MLB month finishes for now. Right now total put us pretty far in the black. personally only down around 3u on the week with all my bets, but this system is doing terrible and the way it is going I need a big week to bring it back into the green.

    Daily Update:
    Record: 4-9-1
    Profit: -$115.33 (-11.5u)

    Overall
    Record: 48-45-6(51%)

    Profit: -$119.87 (-12u aprox)
    Peak: $70.23

    Here are tomorrow's plays for 9/15/14
    Toronto Blue Jays / Baltimore Orioles / 9/15/2014 4:05:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Over 7 ½ -115 Risking $25.00 to win $21.74

    M. Stroman Must start W.Y. Chen Must start

    Washington Nationals / Atlanta Braves / 9/15/2014 4:10:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 6 ½ -115 Risking $25.00 to win $21.74

    E. Santana Must start S. Strasburg Must start

    Miami Marlins / New York Mets / 9/15/2014 4:10:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 6 ½ -125 Risking $25.00 to win $20.00

    J. DeGrom Must start J. Cosart Must start

    New York Yankees / Tampa Bay Rays / 9/15/2014 4:10:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Over 7 ½ -115 Risking $25.00 to win $21.74

    C. Capuano Must start A. Colome Must start

    Detroit Tigers / Minnesota Twins / 9/15/2014 5:10:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Over 7 ½ -115 Risking $25.00 to win $21.74

    M. Scherzer Must start A. Swarzak Must start

    Chicago White Sox / Kansas City Royals / 9/15/2014 5:10:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 7 ½ -125 Risking $25.00 to win $20.00

    J. Shields Must start J. Danks Must start

    San Francisco Giants / Arizona Diamondbacks / 9/15/2014 6:40:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Over 7 ½ -115 Risking $25.00 to win $21.74

    R. Vogelsong Must start W. Miley Must start

    Seattle Mariners / Los Angeles Angels / 9/15/2014 7:05:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 7 ½ -115 Risking $25.00 to win $21.74

    M. Shoemaker Must start H. Iwakuma Must start

    Philadelphia Phillies / San Diego Padres / 9/15/2014 7:10:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Over 6 ½ -120 Risking $25.00 to win $20.83

    J. Williams Must start A. Cashner Must start



    There are 4 games not available on my book yet. I might be able to add them in the morning if I have time. If not just going with these.
    Good Luck

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    Cincinnati Reds / Chicago Cubs / 9/15/2014 5:05:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 7 -125 Risking $25.00 to win $20.00

    T. Wood Must start A. Simon Must start

    Cleveland Indians / Houston Astros / 9/15/2014 5:10:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Over 8 -120 Risking $25.00 to win $20.83

    Z. McAllister Must start C. McHugh Must start

    Los Angeles Dodgers / Colorado Rockies / 9/15/2014 5:40:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Over 10 ½ -115 Risking $25.00 to win $21.74

    R. Hernandez Must start C. Bergman Must start


    All the games are now covered. Good luck
    Last edited by J.M. Disciple; 09-15-14 at 10:35 AM.

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    Not sure how much longer I will continue this system as the line movement I am discovering varies greatly throughout the day even on totals. I am noticing a lot of my bets would be on the opposite side of things had it been closer to game time. But makes me wonder if its just the money moving the line and the opening line is the true line or not. Maybe I am betting the true line and just getting a little unlucky, but it is definitely approaching that 50% mark these past three days which is not pretty for a system. 50% still means a lot of variance long run. I will sleep on it and see what I come up with.

    in the mean time who are you all following for NFL? Could use some extra cash to balance out this variance.

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    system is failing rather quickly over a short sample. I am going to stop, but am interested in air betting it to see how it recovers and at what stakes will it eventually recover. There is doubt in my mind that it will, but will take a rather large bankroll in my opinion to recover it. I'll attempt to air bet it tomorrow $30 @ risk per bet and see how it goes.

    daily update:
    -$23.04
    record: 6-6

    Overall
    Record: 54-51-6(51%)

    Profit: -$142.91(-14.2u aprox)
    Peak: $70.23

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    As far as I see it, the only way this system makes money is if on average these are +EV bets.

    If the market is u7 -115 o7 -105 do you really think that it will be under more than 53.5% of the time just because the market is shaded that way. When the books take such their 10% edge, which is pretty big, why would they be systematically wrong with every total?

    My guess would be if anything there would be more value on the other side as my feeling is squares would prefer the -115, but I have no evidence and doubt it would be significant.

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    Toronto Blue Jays / Baltimore Orioles / 9/16/2014 4:05:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 8 -115 Risking $30.00 to win $26.09

    U. Jimenez Must start D. Hutchison Must start

    Boston Red Sox / Pittsburgh Pirates / 9/16/2014 4:05:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Over 7 ½ -115 Risking $30.00 to win $26.09

    A. Ranaudo Must start C. Morton Must start

    New York Yankees / Tampa Bay Rays / 9/16/2014 4:10:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Over 6 ½ -120 Risking $30.00 to win $25.00

    M. Pineda Must start J. Odorizzi Must start

    Cincinnati Reds / Chicago Cubs / 9/16/2014 5:05:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Over 6 -115 Risking $30.00 to win $26.09

    J. Cueto Must start J. Arrieta Must start

    Cleveland Indians / Houston Astros / 9/16/2014 5:10:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 7 ½ -115 Risking $30.00 to win $26.09

    N. Tropeano Must start C. Kluber Must start

    Chicago White Sox / Kansas City Royals / 9/16/2014 5:10:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 8 -115 Risking $30.00 to win $26.09

    L. Hendriks Must start C. Bassitt Must start

    Detroit Tigers / Minnesota Twins / 9/16/2014 5:10:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Over 8 -120 Risking $30.00 to win $25.00

    R. Porcello Must start R. Nolasco Must start

    Milwaukee Brewers / St. Louis Cardinals / 9/16/2014 5:15:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Under 7 -115 Risking $30.00 to win $26.09

    L. Lynn Must start W. Peralta Must start

    Los Angeles Dodgers / Colorado Rockies / 9/16/2014 5:40:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Over 10 ½ -115 Risking $30.00 to win $26.09

    D. Haren Must start T. Matzek Must start

    Texas Rangers / Oakland Athletics / 9/16/2014 7:05:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Over 7 -130 Risking $30.00 to win $23.08

    N. Tepesch Must start S. Kazmir Must start

    Philadelphia Phillies / San Diego Padres / 9/16/2014 7:10:00 PM (Full Game)
    Points Totaling Over 6 ½ -120 Risking $30.00 to win $25.00

    A. J. Burnett Must start I. Kennedy Must start

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