1. #176
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    I completely understand how to qualify bets for (A). And how to bet (B) and (C) if (A) or (B) loses. The only question I have is in the records you have:

    Labby
    x-10-10-10-40-x
    10-23-22-31
    10-10-10-38

    What is this chart showing? I imagine it's fairly simple but I have read through the thread trying to figure it out with no luck. Can anyone give me a quick breakdown of this please? Thanks.

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    Its on3:s labbylines.
    One line for A bets, One for B bets and The One at the bottom for his C bets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TenCount View Post
    I completely understand how to qualify bets for (A). And how to bet (B) and (C) if (A) or (B) loses. The only question I have is in the records you have:

    Labby
    x-10-10-10-40-x
    10-23-22-31
    10-10-10-38

    What is this chart showing? I imagine it's fairly simple but I have read through the thread trying to figure it out with no luck. Can anyone give me a quick breakdown of this please? Thanks.
    So on the (a) bets he uses top line... So bet would be to win $50...if bet loses, line would look like x-10-10-10-40-65(approx bet to win$50), then the (b) bet for that series the next day would be to win $41(taken from 10and 31, from second line) and so on...
    Anybody feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, or better way to explain it. Hope this helped.

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    Pitt, Cle, SD plays?

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    All three are verk close to not be plays. We have to see the closing lines

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    Quote Originally Posted by sportscreep1 View Post
    So on the (a) bets he uses top line... So bet would be to win $50...if bet loses, line would look like x-10-10-10-40-65(approx bet to win$50), then the (b) bet for that series the next day would be to win $41(taken from 10and 31, from second line) and so on...
    Anybody feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, or better way to explain it. Hope this helped.
    I am not sure how on3 is running his labby lines this year, but in years past he would split half of A's loss on line A and other half of the loss on line B. He would try and keep 4 #s per line and just keep splitting it if he loses. For example if you had fresh lines

    A: 10 10 10 10
    B: 10 10 10 10
    C: 10 10 10 10

    If you lose bet A $20 to win $10 (-200 Juice) you would split $10 on each line from the loss. New lines would look like this:

    A: 10 10 10 20
    B: 10 10 10 20
    C: 10 10 10 10

    So on and so forth. On3 chooses the bet size for each game. Usually first and last #, but on occasion he may choose 2 biggest #s on the line.

    Good luck Gents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sportscreep1 View Post
    Pitt, Cle, SD plays?
    PIT line dropping, likely no play

    Need to watch CLE line

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    Quote Originally Posted by mantorras77 View Post
    PIT line dropping, likely no play

    Need to watch CLE line
    PIT, CLE = no play

    as of right now SD is but we'll see in 3 hours

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    Quote Originally Posted by mantorras77 View Post
    PIT, CLE = no play

    as of right now SD is but we'll see in 3 hours
    I am showing Cleveland closed at -150. Why are they a no play?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbedore View Post
    I am showing Cleveland closed at -150. Why are they a no play?
    I thought it had to close at -145 across all books on http://www.sportsbookreview.com/betting-odds/, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mantorras77 View Post
    I thought it had to close at -145 across all books on http://www.sportsbookreview.com/betting-odds/, no?
    That would be a question for on3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbedore View Post
    That would be a question for on3.
    here you go from page 1 of this thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by on3 View Post
    OAK is creeping up into play territory, currently at -140. if it reaches -145 across the board (use http://www.sportsbookreview.com/betting-odds/) then it will be an official unfiltered play.
    So there were no plays yesterday as none qualified. Next chance for games is Monday.
    Last edited by mantorras77; 05-03-14 at 09:08 AM.

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    sorry for not posting yesterday, i was traveling and wifi on the flight wasnt working. my apologies. it looks like yesterday's plays were CLE and SD (using 5dimes as the closing lines). if you didnt play SD game 1, dont play the series. CLE is a 1 unit series win and I will play SD according to the current labby.

    UPDATED for 5/3/2014
    System(s) record Chase:
    Regular system: 36-1-0; Profit: +29.28 units (NYY one game loss, -2.3 units to be recouped)
    Filtered System: 6-0-0; Profit: +6 units
    5/2 chase: 0-0-0; profit: 0 units

    Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
    Game 1 (A) win = 28-14; 5-1
    Game 2 (B) win = 6-7; 0-1; 0-0
    Game 3 (C) win = 6-1; 1-0; 0-0

    Labby
    x-10-10-10-40-x
    10-23-22-31
    x-10-10-x

    reshuffle

    16-18-18-18
    20-23-22-21
    x-10-10-x

    Labby filtered
    10-10-10-10
    10-10-10-10
    10-10-10-10

    Regular -- all plays must close at -145 or higher to be an official play
    (B) SD -133 to win 41

    Filtered -- all plays must meet 'Regular' requirement and close at an O/U of 9 or higher to be an official play
    none

    5/2
    none
    Last edited by on3; 05-03-14 at 09:19 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mantorras77 View Post
    I thought it had to close at -145 across all books on http://www.sportsbookreview.com/betting-odds/, no?
    i was 5dimes as the sportsbook when the lines are close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TenCount View Post
    I completely understand how to qualify bets for (A). And how to bet (B) and (C) if (A) or (B) loses. The only question I have is in the records you have:

    Labby
    x-10-10-10-40-x
    10-23-22-31
    10-10-10-38

    What is this chart showing? I imagine it's fairly simple but I have read through the thread trying to figure it out with no luck. Can anyone give me a quick breakdown of this please? Thanks.
    As others have mentioned, these are A, B, C lines. starting off with two $20 units, the lines are 10-10-10-10. i use the first and last numbers on the line to determine the amount to bet. the goal is clear lines and then reset them. this is a money management method to recoup losses. all series wins are 1 unit until the line is clear (each cleared line is 2 units). as a reminder, YOU DONT HAVE TO USE THE LABBY LINES AS YOUR MONEY MANAGEMENT METHOD. you can use a martingale or whichever you want. labby lines dont keep "up to date" unit counts since losses are banked and sometimes a series win on a (B) or (C) bet won't recoup your previous losses. BUT, at the end of the day the unit count will be accurate.

    using an (A) game as an example: to adjust the lines after a loss, i take the amount lost on the game, split half the losses and add them to the end of the line and the other half goes on the (B) line.

    i reshuffle and even out the lines once a new set of series' starts.

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    UPDATED for 5/4/2014
    System(s) record Chase:
    Regular system: 36-1-0; Profit: +29.28 units (NYY one game loss, -2.3 units to be recouped)
    Filtered System: 6-0-0; Profit: +6 units
    5/2 chase: 0-0-0; profit: 0 units

    Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
    Game 1 (A) win = 28-14; 5-1
    Game 2 (B) win = 6-8; 0-1; 0-0
    Game 3 (C) win = 6-1; 1-0; 0-0

    Labby
    16-18-18-18
    20-23-22-48
    x-10-10-27

    Labby filtered
    10-10-10-10
    10-10-10-10
    10-10-10-10

    Regular -- all plays must close at -145 or higher to be an official play
    (C) SD -123 to win 37

    Filtered -- all plays must meet 'Regular' requirement and close at an O/U of 9 or higher to be an official play
    none

    5/2
    none

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    Are we keeping day to day unit count or just counting the wins and assuming losses will be recoupped? I remember there was a problem with this last season when we reset our lines.

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    UPDATED for 5/5/2014
    System(s) record Chase:
    Regular system: 37-1-0; Profit: +30.28 units (NYY one game loss, -2.3 units to be recouped)
    Filtered System: 6-0-0; Profit: +6 units
    5/2 chase: 0-0-0; profit: 0 units

    Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
    Game 1 (A) win = 28-14; 5-1
    Game 2 (B) win = 6-8; 0-1; 0-0
    Game 3 (C) win = 7-1; 1-0; 0-0

    Labby
    34-36-38-32
    20-x-x-x
    x-x-10-x

    Labby filtered
    10-10-10-10
    10-10-10-10
    10-10-10-10

    Regular -- all (A) plays must close at -145 or higher to be an official play
    (A) CLE -146 to win 34
    (A) DET -263/-120 to win 36 -- play RL
    (A) OAK -191/+110 to win 38 -- play RL
    (A) LAA -148 to win 32

    Filtered -- all plays must meet 'Regular' requirement and close at an O/U of 9 or higher to be an official play
    none

    5/2
    none
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    Quote Originally Posted by J.M. Disciple View Post
    Are we keeping day to day unit count or just counting the wins and assuming losses will be recoupped? I remember there was a problem with this last season when we reset our lines.
    Counting the wins, but I will be more diligent in making sure the units dont get out of whack.

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    LAA seems to be the only one still on the fence today.

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    anyone happen to have 3 game home stand schedule in front of them. I started putting one together instead of going day by day. Wanted to do month to month and slowly keep adding teams to it. Easier to keep track of it that way. I am sure some of you can pull up 3 game home stands with your skills. I am stuck doing it manually.

    Tomororw depending on closing line I have TB, Phi, and CHC as new series. Looks like only one will qualify. Then of course we have our B games.

    My layout is date/team/g1/g2/g3

    Anyone have it? Much appreciated
    Austin

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    UPDATED for 5/6/2014
    System(s) record Chase:
    Regular system: 38-1-0; Profit: +31.28 units (NYY one game loss, -2.3 units to be recouped)
    Filtered System: 6-0-0; Profit: +6 units
    5/2 chase: 0-0-0; profit: 0 units

    Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
    Game 1 (A) win = 29-16; 5-1
    Game 2 (B) win = 6-8; 0-1; 0-0
    Game 3 (C) win = 7-1; 1-0; 0-0

    Labby
    34-x-24-32-19-25
    20-14-25-19
    x-x-10-x

    Labby filtered
    10-10-10-10
    10-10-10-10
    10-10-10-10

    Regular -- all (A) plays must close at -145 or higher to be an official play
    (B) CLE -133 to win 39
    (B) OAK -160 to win 39

    Filtered -- all plays must meet 'Regular' requirement and close at an O/U of 9 or higher to be an official play
    none

    5/2
    none
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    Which of the two oakland games are our C bet tonight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by knugen View Post
    Which of the two oakland games are our C bet tonight?
    the first one

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    UPDATED for 5/6/2014
    System(s) record Chase:
    Regular system: 39-1-0; Profit: +32.28 units (NYY one game loss, -2.3 units to be recouped)
    Filtered System: 6-0-0; Profit: +6 units
    5/2 chase: 0-0-0; profit: 0 units

    Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
    Game 1 (A) win = 29-16; 5-1
    Game 2 (B) win = 7-9; 0-1; 0-0
    Game 3 (C) win = 7-1; 1-0; 0-0

    Labby
    34-x-24-32-19-25
    x-14-25-31
    x-x-10-31

    Labby filtered
    10-10-10-10
    10-10-10-10
    10-10-10-10

    Regular -- all (A) plays must close at -145 or higher to be an official play
    (C) OAK +109 to win 41 (EARLY GAME)

    Filtered -- all plays must meet 'Regular' requirement and close at an O/U of 9 or higher to be an official play
    none

    5/2
    none
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    will you play the second game if Oakland loses the first one?

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    UPDATED for 5/8/2014
    System(s) record Chase:
    Regular system: 39-2-0; Profit: +25.21 units (NYY one game loss, -2.3 units to be recouped, OAK loss -7.07 units to be recouped)
    Filtered System: 6-0-0; Profit: +6 units
    5/2 chase: 0-0-0; profit: 0 units

    Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
    Game 1 (A) win = 29-16; 5-1
    Game 2 (B) win = 7-9; 0-1; 0-0
    Game 3 (C) win = 7-2; 1-0; 0-0

    Labby
    44-36-39-35
    x-14-25-31
    x-21-10-31

    Labby filtered
    10-10-10-10
    10-10-10-10
    10-10-10-10

    Regular -- all (A) plays must close at -145 or higher to be an official play
    none

    Filtered -- all plays must meet 'Regular' requirement and close at an O/U of 9 or higher to be an official play
    none

    5/2
    none
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    Wasn't San Diego a play yesterday ? They closed at -150.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hagball52 View Post
    Wasn't San Diego a play yesterday ? They closed at -150.
    One of the lines on SBR sheet was at -140, I guess that's why they weren't. But I don't know how he could have known that at 3:30 when he posted unless I missed something else.

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    He uses 5 dimes as the final lines

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    Quote Originally Posted by hagball52 View Post
    Wasn't San Diego a play yesterday ? They closed at -150.
    youre right, i missed that one. the line wasnt anywhere near -145 when i posted. i will post today's game as an (A) bet and since this is a 4 game series we can play it through (C) if need be.

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    UPDATED for 5/9/2014
    System(s) record Chase:
    Regular system: 39-2-0; Profit: +25.21 units (NYY one game loss, -2.3 units to be recouped, OAK loss -7.07 units to be recouped)
    Filtered System: 6-0-0; Profit: +6 units
    5/2 chase: 0-0-0; profit: 0 units

    Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
    Game 1 (A) win = 29-16; 5-1
    Game 2 (B) win = 7-9; 0-1; 0-0
    Game 3 (C) win = 7-2; 1-0; 0-0

    Labby
    26-26-29-25-24-24
    x-14-25-31
    x-21-10-31

    Labby filtered
    10-10-10-10
    10-10-10-10
    10-10-10-10

    Regular -- all (A) plays must close at -145 or higher to be an official play
    (A) CIN -164 to win 26
    (A) BAL -165 to win 26
    (A) DET -209/+105 to win 29 -- play RL
    (A) ATL -174 to win 25
    (A) TEX -145 to win 24
    (A)** SD +119 to win 24 -- game 2 of 4 game series, game 1 of the series qualified for a play

    Filtered -- all plays must meet 'Regular' requirement and close at an O/U of 9 or higher to be an official play
    none

    5/2
    none
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    Quote Originally Posted by thompson182 View Post
    He uses 5 dimes as the final lines
    I thought he said all the lines across the board on the sbrodds page had to be at -145 or higher to be an official play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallco99 View Post
    I thought he said all the lines across the board on the sbrodds page had to be at -145 or higher to be an official play.
    When the lines are close, I need a tiebreaker. That's 5dimes.

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    *late post today on DET (B) game

    UPDATED for 5/10/2014
    System(s) record Chase:
    Regular system: 44-2-0; Profit: +31.46 units (NYY one game loss, -2.3 units to be recouped, OAK loss -7.07 units to be recouped)
    Filtered System: 6-0-0; Profit: +6 units
    5/2 chase: 0-0-0; profit: 0 units

    Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
    Game 1 (A) win = 34-17; 5-1
    Game 2 (B) win = 7-9; 0-1; 0-0
    Game 3 (C) win = 7-2; 1-0; 0-0

    Labby
    x-x-29-x-x-x-14
    14-25-15-31
    x-21-10-31

    Labby filtered
    10-10-10-10
    10-10-10-10
    10-10-10-10

    Regular -- all (A) plays must close at -145 or higher to be an official play
    (B) DET -260/-125 to win 45 -- play RL

    Filtered -- all plays must meet 'Regular' requirement and close at an O/U of 9 or higher to be an official play
    none

    5/2
    none
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