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    EXhoosier10
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    2012 NL Central and more...

    Welcome everyone.

    I'm looking to get some useful BASEBALL discussion going, so I'm being starting this thread a little early. As I did last year, I'm going to put together a run down of the NL Central this year by making a post detailing some of the important players as well as roster changes for these 6 teams. Because betting a single division is too boring, I'll be talking about and making bets on other teams as well, but I consider my strongest division the NL Central; hence the thread title.

    For anyone interested in seeing my results from last year, I attached my spreadsheet tracking all of my bets from last year. I'm not going to lie and say I play for 100's of dollars per unit; my unit last year was right around $4 and 95% of my bets made were for under $20. For those who can afford larger units, ; I'm raising my unit size a bit this year, but my goal is to have more money than I started the season with, not become a millionaire. Seriously though, last year I returned about 130% of my initial roll, which amounted to ~15% return on each dollar bet. I'll let my results speak for themselves and not my unit size.

    That being said, I rely on strict money management to avoid going broke at any one point in the season. I don't believe that chasing or martingales of any sort will lead to a profitable future; you can either pick winners or you can't. I keep the large majority of my bets to below 5 units, with most running between 1-3 units. With this strategy, I can afford to lose consecutive weeks and still come back strong.

    That being said, out of the 19 weeks I bet last year, I only lost more than 1 unit three times. I won more than 5 units 10 times, and more than 12 units 7 times. I did not have a single losing month and the days i struggled to make money on were mainly getaway days (Thursdays and Sundays; although I did also have a losing record on Saturdays). Over my three years of betting I have found that getaway days are hardest for me to make the correct plays, and I will likely make less plays on those days going forward and will probably knock a unit or so off even if I do like a play. A lot of my success was on FF and TT plays, and while I didn't make many of those, I made them only when I felt most confident and had a lot of indicators point towards the play, so I'm not surprised to see those kinds of results. I can't promise that I'll make a lot more of those bets this year, but I will definitely pay more attention to those situations.

    Everyone is more than welcome in this thread if the choose. I like the added convo and different opinions brought to the table for each game.
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    A couple things here.... I have a few WS props already made:
    Arizona Diamondbacks to win the World Series (+3000) for ½ unit
    Cincinnati Reds to win the World Series (+2300) for ½ unit
    Detroit Tigers to win the World Series (+1100) for ¼ unit


    Just checked, 5dimes released it's division winners lines.... Here's the NL Central.

    National League Central
    Cincinnati Reds.......... +135
    St. Louis Cardinals..... +225
    Milwaukee Brewers..... +315
    Chicago Cubs............ +1500
    Pittsburgh Pirates...... +2000
    Houston Astros......... +12500

    Even though I like the Reds to win the division, I don't like those odds. At first glance, I like the value on the Brewers and Pirates. I'll be looking into those two options soon.
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    Since I live in the Houston area and will try my hardest to go to at least 20 Astros games this upcoming season, it's pretty obvious who I think will come in first place, Cardinals. Astros will make a run at 5th place but fall short by about 12 games.

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    I've imported a few teams' schedules into excel and I like what I found. This will come in handy once team win totals come out, as well as for anybody still looking to place WS/division props. With regards to the NLC, it's looking like the Reds have a VERY favorable NLC v. NLC schedule playing a few more home games than away against the Cards and 'Crew, while playing 10 in Chicago compared to only 6 at home against them.

    I'll try to put the NLC schedule into a matrix later today and upload it for you all to see and hopefully use.

    EDIT: I've uploaded the NLC matrix. Green means the team on the left has more home games than away. Yellow means the top team has more home games than away. It's a matrix, it should explain itself.
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    best value is boston to win al east +370 at 5dimes would only aloud to bet $250 bet it yesterday odds immediatley got adjusted to +345 now down to +285

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.inpak View Post
    best value is boston to win al east +370 at 5dimes would only aloud to bet $250 bet it yesterday odds immediatley got adjusted to +345 now down to +285
    I see that division as a pretty big toss-up. I can't blame anyone for betting Boston at +250 (or better) or even Tampa at +600.

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    Posting for future reference....

    MLB National League East
    Thu 3/1 8:00AM
    Philadelphia Phillies -320
    Atlanta Braves +700
    Miami Marlins +700
    Washington Nationals +900
    New York Mets +6000


    MLB National League Central
    Thu 3/1 8:00AM
    Cincinnati Reds +135
    St. Louis Cardinals +225
    Milwaukee Brewers +275
    Chicago Cubs +1500
    Pittsburgh Pirates +1700
    Houston Astros +10000


    MLB National League West
    Thu 3/1 8:00AM
    San Francisco Giants +158
    Arizona Diamondbacks +175
    Los Angeles Dodgers +450
    Colorado Rockies +700
    San Diego Padres +2500

    MLB American League East
    Thu 3/1 8:00AM
    New York Yankees -145
    Boston Red Sox +275
    Tampa Bay Rays +600
    Toronto Blue Jays +1050
    Baltimore Orioles +10000


    MLB American League Central
    Thu 3/1 8:00AM
    Detroit Tigers -450
    Kansas City Royals +1000
    Cleveland Indians +1100
    Minnesota Twins +1200
    Chicago White Sox +1800


    MLB American League West
    Thu 3/1 8:00AM
    Los Angeles Angels -125
    Texas Rangers +110
    Oakland Athletics +3000
    Seattle Mariners +4000

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    Posting for my own records here... Haven't came up with a final amount that I'll use for the year, so at this point, just posting $ values. Will convert these to units when I come up with an actual unit value.

    Starting out with smaller bet sizes this early as I'm not very comfortable putting normal sized amounts on limited data.

    No way Chi Sox should be this big of dogs. Same as the Cardinals game on Wednesday; I think vegas is taking advantage of big name players/teams early on who will probably be getting the majority of the action.

    ChW $20 @ +167
    Hou $14 @ +115
    SF $11 @ +107

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    0-3 yesterday, -44

    Today
    Cubs $12.64 to win 12
    White sox $13 to win 22
    COl @ Hou 16.5 to win 15
    SF 8 to win 8.5
    Min 8 to win 7.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by EXhoosier10 View Post
    0-3 yesterday, -44

    Today
    Cubs $12.64 to win 12 L - 12.64
    White sox $13 to win 22 W +22
    COl @ Hou 16.5 to win 15 L -16.5
    SF 8 to win 8.5 L -8
    Min 8 to win 7.5 L -8
    Today -23
    YTD -67

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    Yanks TT o4 25 -110

    Tired tb pen plus hellickson's 4 FIP

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    Quote Originally Posted by EXhoosier10 View Post
    Yanks TT o4 25 -110 L -27.5

    Tired tb pen plus hellickson's 4 FIP
    YTD -94

    Mia 20 @ +140
    Mil 16 @ -126
    Bal 14 @ +145
    Chw (and FF) 15 @ +100 (5 @ -105)

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    Quote Originally Posted by EXhoosier10 View Post
    YTD -94

    Mia 20 @ +140 W +28
    Mil 16 @ -126 W +16
    Bal 14 @ +145 L -14
    Chw (and FF) 15 @ +100 (5 @ -105) W +20
    4-1 today,
    YTD -44

    For anyone reading, I started out slow with 3 of 4 losing weeks to start off the year (but finished those 4 up 4+ units) before reeling off 13 winnings weeks of the final 15 that I played. All but 2 of those 13 final weeks ended up more than 5 units. Hopefully week 1 will be the worst of the weeks and I can start another streak earlier this year

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    Play for 4/9
    Boston 22.50 @ -113
    slight lean to AZ. We'll see how the lineup looks tomorrow and go from there.

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