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    3 reasons not to use Matchbook?

    What are the 3 most important reasons why you need another out besides Matchbook? It seems like they are the best overall pricing available but I am fairly new to this and I need some guidance. What 3 things am I missing if I only use Matchbook? Thanks

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    i wouldn't say they are important, but i like teaser ,props parlays,

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    Some books have shaded or slow moving lines, so you can sometimes get better lines elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bleedblue View Post
    Some books have shaded or slow moving lines, so you can sometimes get better lines elsewhere.
    Is that book specific or do you mean in general? What level of juice would you say the break even is then for looking for the shaded or slow moving lines? Thanks

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    No offers get met except on gameday.......unless of course it gets steamed the other way.

    More than half the games have less than $300 available to buy up before gameday.

    They only put up like 25% college football 2h lines.

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    Lack of liquidity.

    No smaller market sports.

    No alternate or exotic lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank View Post
    No offers get met except on gameday.......unless of course it gets steamed the other way.

    More than half the games have less than $300 available to buy up before gameday.

    They only put up like 25% college football 2h lines.
    Ok, that is good stuff to know. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InThisMoment View Post
    Lack of liquidity.

    No smaller market sports.

    No alternate or exotic lines.
    I have found that you can get as much money down at matchbook on gameday than at pretty much any regular sportsbook. And at halftime you can regularly get down 70k if you are a big timer, so lack of liquidity is a non issue on gameday. Before gameday there isn't as much liquidity but its not that bad. I don't make my plays until gameday anyway 90% of the time so this stuff doesn't bother me. Weather is something I have to wait until gameday to factor in. Then I like to see official lineups too. I think like 90% of all wagering (by everyone) is done on the day of the game so matchbook is doing good with that.

    All a parlay is is winning your first game and putting your original bet amount of the first game + winnings all on the line in the 2nd game for a 2 team parlay, then repeat if you want a 3 team parlay, etc. You can still do that at matchbook just not on games that start at the same time. You have to wait until the first game is completed. But if the parlay you wanted to make includes games that don't overlap, you can have a parlay of as many teams as you want at matchbook if you understand what I'm saying.

    They don't have props except for special events. But that is not why they are there. They are there to give the best line available on straight bets, ML bets, and totals. If you want to play props too then simply have another account at another sportsbook.

    I find that I have accounts a different books and locals and looking for the best line I make 95% of my plays at matchbook. They just beat everyone in price, especially moneylines and totals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max009 View Post
    Is that book specific or do you mean in general? What level of juice would you say the break even is then for looking for the shaded or slow moving lines? Thanks
    Im not sure what you're asking...Here's an example...

    NYJ is -3 at Miami. Jets get bet so hard that a smaller book moves the Jets to -3 -125. Matchbook has -100/-101, but smaller book has -125/+105.

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    One reason is they are down all the time....like right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bleedblue View Post
    Im not sure what you're asking...Here's an example...

    NYJ is -3 at Miami. Jets get bet so hard that a smaller book moves the Jets to -3 -125. Matchbook has -100/-101, but smaller book has -125/+105.
    I understand the general idea but you would have to have an account and funds at that particular book to take advantage of that. But I get what you are saying. I will take that into consideration as a Matchbook critique.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thespeculator View Post
    i wouldn't say they are important, but i like teaser ,props parlays,
    I have found a way to get teasers and parlays on matchbook with not too much trouble and although they appear small it seems a workable solution for a regular bettor like myself. So I think that only leaves props for the time being as something Matchbook is lacking for me. Thanks for the feedback.

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    The truth is, there is NO good reason not to use Matchbook as your primary book. You will almost never find lines that beat the prices on matchbook. Parlays, Props, Teasers almost always have negative value anyway so you should generally not bet them, especially not at the price of say Bookmaker.

    Halftime lines can be frustrating occasionally, but nothing outweighs the selection of lines and prices at Matchbook. It can easily make the difference between being a losing and a winning bettor and anyone who says otherwise doesn't know what they are talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InThisMoment View Post
    Lack of liquidity.

    No smaller market sports.

    No alternate or exotic lines.
    These plus the frequent downtimes

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    *Lack of liquidity on the college markets so very low odds.
    *you Americans and Canadians interested in Full Time bets. But lots of pople interested in exotic lines in Europe. Half Time, First Quarter, props...
    *there isn't europan basketball leagues. (my favorite market)
    *they send check which comes 2 weeks later also bank pays me 1 week later.total 3 weeks.meanwhile bank cuts some amount.
    *I can't make directly deposit.I use b2b.hard way
    I admit it has wonderful lines on the major leagues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gangeriver View Post
    *they send check which comes 2 weeks later also bank pays me 1 week later.total 3 weeks.meanwhile bank cuts some amount.
    So why not use Moneybookers or Neteller?
    I get prompt free payouts to Moneybookers every time

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    unfortunately banned...we can use only "eco card" as e-wallet

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    matchbook is difficult to beat, relative to other books (lines aren't shaded, close to Pinny)

    backed by wsex

    lousy mobile interface (read: none)

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    Gotta love how the OP sets this question up last year for Parlaymakers. Sneaky bastards.

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    the most reason is matchbook won't give you any bonus. Most regular players like bonus to increase their betting power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackkkk2009 View Post
    the most reason is matchbook won't give you any bonus. Most regular players like bonus to increase their betting power.
    How do you suggest that an exchange gives you a bonus?
    They give a bonus everyday with the lines you can get.

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    No props, no parlays, no teasers, no second halves, no quarters, no liquidity a lot of the time, very inflexible interface.

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    I can't think of that many.......

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    early #'s
    parlays
    Teasers

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    Matchbook is a MUST out. For me its the diference from having to work or bet on sports for a living.

    Example: I bet the Jets m/l -154 leading 7-0. After the Jets took a 14-0 lead I took Miami m/l +440. I set myself up to win $350 if Miami won, and $700 if the Jets win.

    Thank you very much.

    Oh, WSEX is not backing Matchbook. Thats funny!!!!!!! I wish it was true. Then I would feel more confident of getting paid my balance at WSEX.
    Last edited by Chuck Sims; 09-27-10 at 11:27 AM.

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    There are drawbacks about Matchbook, as mentioned above, but those problems are easily solved. If you want to bet openers, props, parlays, etc, then bet those at Greek, Cris, or wherever else. Use Matchbook for betting straight game lines. It makes no sense to be betting into -110, or even -105, lines when you might be able to get +105 on the same game at Matchbook.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Sims View Post
    Matchbook is a MUST out. For me its the diference from having to work or bet on sports for a living.

    Example: I bet the Jets m/l -154 leading 7-0. After the Jets took a 14-0 lead I took Miami m/l +440. I set myself up to win $350 if Miami won, and $700 if the Jets win.

    Thank you very much.

    Oh, WSEX is not backing Matchbook. Thats funny!!!!!!! I wish it was true. Then I would feel more confident of getting paid my balance at WSEX.



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    MB gets 90% of my action
    other books used mainly for nascar, golf, tennis
    and 5dimes reduced juice

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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    MB gets 90% of my action
    other books used mainly for nascar, golf, tennis
    and 5dimes reduced juice
    ^^^ this

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpiderMonkey View Post
    How do you suggest that an exchange gives you a bonus?
    They give a bonus everyday with the lines you can get.

    Agree - that's the very best kind of bonus there is

    however, Betfair do offer the occasional small bonus, free bet/special etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Sims View Post
    Matchbook is a MUST out. For me its the diference from having to work or bet on sports for a living.

    Example: I bet the Jets m/l -154 leading 7-0. After the Jets took a 14-0 lead I took Miami m/l +440. I set myself up to win $350 if Miami won, and $700 if the Jets win.

    Thank you very much.

    Oh, WSEX is not backing Matchbook. Thats funny!!!!!!! I wish it was true. Then I would feel more confident of getting paid my balance at WSEX.
    If you're good/quick at figuring out spreads during live games, I'm sure you can profit a lot (read: I can't). I'll stick with refreshing Pinny's live bets though. One downside to live betting MB is the spread doesn't move, so you'll often see strange lines like -3 +1500 depending on the score.

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    I posted this yesterday in another thread:

    Three things that I hate about Matchbook are:

    1) The currency used is US dollars. For international users, the daily fluctuating currency exchange rates kinda defeat the purpose of using the book, since the money you saved on the vig is then spent on the rates conversion.

    2) There's a 3.5% fee when depositing. I know it is reimbursed in the form of commission credits but other good books like Betjm does not charge any fees. I hate it when for example I deposited $200. My balance would read $193.

    3) There are no line movements in the market it seems. If it is -2.5 Pittsburgh, it stays at that number. Only the odds change. You can't buy points at all.

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    I find it AMAZING that so many respected posters have never had an account with MATCHBOOK


    INSANE

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    Agree with the many posters about MB's shortcomings, but for straight action MB is a must have. True MB does not give bonuses but I have earned several bonuses at other Books by simply scalping against MB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HedgeHog View Post
    Agree with the many posters about MB's shortcomings, but for straight action MB is a must have. True MB does not give bonuses but I have earned several bonuses at other Books by simply scalping against MB.

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