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    Quote Originally Posted by Jooy View Post
    Hi guys

    Still have not received any information from Betcoin or Playbetr, no replies to my emails. Does anyone know what to do or who to contact?

    Hope that someone could help me, thanks

    Hey mate have you received any answer? It seems this problem is explanding to many users, they decide to not answer any e-mails and decide to steal the winnings and not even return the initial deposit, I haven't found anywhere in their rules that they can keep the deposit and not respond you anyhow

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    Quote Originally Posted by karakara123 View Post
    Hey mate have you received any answer? It seems this problem is explanding to many users, they decide to not answer any e-mails and decide to steal the winnings and not even return the initial deposit, I haven't found anywhere in their rules that they can keep the deposit and not respond you anyhow
    Sad to hear this. I wonder if the we'll-offer-Pinnacle-lines thing was just a feint to draw in deposits to make the pot bigger when they went Aces Gold with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bookie View Post
    Sad to hear this. I wonder if the we'll-offer-Pinnacle-lines thing was just a feint to draw in deposits to make the pot bigger when they went Aces Gold with it.
    Aces Gold, blast from the past. Lines off, gave a bonus and no juice.

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    You don't have to worry about Betcoin or their sister site Playbetr. They have some nice partners
    French soccer giants Paris Saint-Germain (PSG) have struck a three-year regional partnership with Latin American online betting provider Playbetr.The deal, announced on the day PSG signed Argentine star Lionel Messi, secures Playbetr with exclusive territorial marketing rights. The gambling firm will also receive further branding exposure courtesy of new digital overlay technology at PSG’s Parc des Princes home, which will target Latin American audiences.
    The new system at the stadium, which is the first of its kind in France, geo-localises adverts displayed on the LED screens around the pitch by adapting the messages to the broadcaster's audience.
    Playbetr’s arrangement also covers VIP seats for home matches, club legend meet-and-greet sessions, signed shirts and memorabilia, private events at the Parc des Princes, as well as experiences for Playbetr customers, clients and employees.
    https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/...g-partnership/

    Betcoin takes US but Playbetr doesn't accept US or UK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post
    You don't have to worry about Betcoin.
    Raiders what do you make of the multiple reports from bettors here and on BTC forums who are saying they can't access their funds, or get a response from CS? My rule of thumb is that the first two or three reports might well be agenda-driven, but when there's several I start to wonder.

    I know you have your ear closer to the ground than I do on these things, but the Pinnacle promise made and broken is sus, and while these posters don't have a ton of posts, they don't come across as troll-ey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bookie View Post
    Raiders what do you make of the multiple reports from bettors here and on BTC forums who are saying they can't access their funds, or get a response from CS? My rule of thumb is that the first two or three reports might well be agenda-driven, but when there's several I start to wonder.

    I know you have your ear closer to the ground than I do on these things, but the Pinnacle promise made and broken is sus, and while these posters don't have a ton of posts, they don't come across as troll-ey.
    Pinnacle was awful but I haven't heard of any limited withdrawals such as Aces Gold where the withdrawal limit was $1k. It doesn't seem they had ill intent. I'm not telling you anything new but off lines or huge bonuses with low rollovers are things to worry about.

    With the recent complaints against Betcoin, I'm not accusing anyone here of being dishonest, but most of the time it's multi-accounting bypassing limits. Betcoin isn't heavy handed with KYC but it seems that when they do ask, there's always a refusal or the ID is fishy. Don't use a VPN there and you'll never have to KYC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post
    Pinnacle was awful but I haven't heard of any limited withdrawals such as Aces Gold where the withdrawal limit was $1k. It doesn't seem they had ill intent. I'm not telling you anything new but off lines or huge bonuses with low rollovers are things to worry about.

    With the recent complaints against Betcoin, I'm not accusing anyone here of being dishonest, but most of the time it's multi-accounting bypassing limits. Betcoin isn't heavy handed with KYC but it seems that when they do ask, there's always a refusal or the ID is fishy. Don't use a VPN there and you'll never have to KYC.
    Little update from here. I have not received any information after my first post. Optional have tried to chase them, but also no answer to him.

    My account in Betcoin is fully verified, and I have made one successful withdrawal. My Playbetr account is not verified, but I think that is not the problem, since I had played there for few months only. I have never used VPN, do not even have one.

    Any thoughts how to proceed in this matter?

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    I also have never used VPN, I am also ready to do all type of verifications but of course you can not verify account if they close account and not answer to your mail for 2 months+.

    raiders you can keep your marketing campaign as you are paid to do so, but please don't say that we are dishonest people because we only want our money. Also the fact that this bookmaker you are promoting is Curacao based with the worst license possible from Curacao EGAMING 365/JAZZ proves many things, this is the hardest to reach Curacao based and they never response to any complaints, not until they are contacted by the lawyer which is next thing i am going to do.

    https://game-protect.com/curacao-license-scam/
    https://casino-howto.com/blog/how-to...cao-nv-365jaz/
    https://casino.guru/playbetr-casino-review#tab=js-tab-detail-homepage

    https://www.trustpilot.com/review/playbetr.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jooy View Post
    Little update from here. I have not received any information after my first post. Optional have tried to chase them, but also no answer to him.

    My account in Betcoin is fully verified, and I have made one successful withdrawal. My Playbetr account is not verified, but I think that is not the problem, since I had played there for few months only. I have never used VPN, do not even have one.

    Any thoughts how to proceed in this matter?
    I'm not sure what happened in your case. I do know that they respect SBR but I don't think that SBR does arbitration anymore with offshore books. I've seen in the past where Betcoin has agreed to 3rd party arbitration but I'm unsure of the 3rd party used now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by karakara123 View Post
    I also have never used VPN, I am also ready to do all type of verifications but of course you can not verify account if they close account and not answer to your mail for 2 months+.

    raiders you can keep your marketing campaign as you are paid to do so, but please don't say that we are dishonest people because we only want our money. Also the fact that this bookmaker you are promoting is Curacao based with the worst license possible from Curacao EGAMING 365/JAZZ proves many things, this is the hardest to reach Curacao based and they never response to any complaints, not until they are contacted by the lawyer which is next thing i am going to do.

    https://game-protect.com/curacao-license-scam/
    https://casino-howto.com/blog/how-to...cao-nv-365jaz/
    https://casino.guru/playbetr-casino-review#tab=js-tab-detail-homepage

    https://www.trustpilot.com/review/playbetr.com
    karakara - Making false accusations against me and using game-protect tells me you are dishonest. That said, I have no idea if you have a case or not against Betcoin. But I'm 100% sure about your character and wouldn't believe a word that you say. I can understand why someone would cease communication with you.
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    I originally said that I'm not accusing anyone of being dishonest and that stands for Jooy. I'm making no accusations against Jooy and would love to see a third party resolution
    I'm not accusing anyone here of being dishonest,

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post
    but most of the time it's multi-accounting bypassing limits. Betcoin isn't heavy handed with KYC but it seems that when they do ask, there's always a refusal or the ID is fishy.
    Act like a shill, get called a shill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cicadasinthe View Post
    Act like a shill, get called a shill.
    I don't attack anyone unless attacked. Someone accused you of cheating. Your VPN use could be shady. You've been accused of colluding. Max betting makes it look that way when others are betting the same way. You have problems with many books. People may say that you're a crook.
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    And they were wrong; Nitrogen paid in full and invited me back with the VPN. Speaking of Nitro, it was them you shilled for as well weren’t it? And you were the one calling me shady, wonder why… Seen you’ve avoided the recent Nitro topics like the plague. You’re a blatant shill, you might as well own it.

    Good luck Jooy and karakara.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cicadasinthe View Post
    And they were wrong; Nitrogen paid in full and invited me back with the VPN. Speaking of Nitro, it was them you shilled for as well weren’t it? And you were the one calling me shady, wonder why… Seen you’ve avoided the recent Nitro topics like the plague. You’re a blatant shill, you might as well own it.

    Good luck Jooy and karakara.
    You're on tilt. And I wasn't talking about your problems with Nitrobetting. That's just one of many.
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    I don’t wanna derail the thread, but if you’re gonna shill, better have thick skin. You’re taking this a bit personal.

    Good luck Jooy and karakara

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    The fact that PlayBetr (read Betcoin, as they use same team(s) for support and solving complaints) doesnt answer any e-mails and just close account and take your founds, the fact that they doesnt answer to SBR operators, the fact that my lawyer cant reach them probably says something?

    @raiders no one have ceased communication with me, they dont communicate with no-one, they havent even started communication. Also there is nowhere in their Terms of Conditions that they can withheld balance by any reasoning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by karakara123 View Post
    The fact that PlayBetr (read Betcoin, as they use same team(s) for support and solving complaints) doesnt answer any e-mails and just close account and take your founds, the fact that they doesnt answer to SBR operators, the fact that my lawyer cant reach them probably says something?

    @raiders no one have ceased communication with me, they dont communicate with no-one, they havent even started communication. Also there is nowhere in their Terms of Conditions that they can withheld balance by any reasoning.
    I don't know the facts and only jumped in because I was asked if I was concerned by recent allegations. It's a good thing for you to bring this stuff up to the forum. To reinforce, my original post made no allegations to your case. We went of course with personal attacks.

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    karakara and Jooy, these might be helpful. Did some work on 1xbet that made newspaper. Or The Pogg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cicadasinthe View Post
    karakara and Jooy, these might be helpful. Did some work on 1xbet that made newspaper. Or The Pogg.
    1xbet/1xbit are crooks that claimed bankruptcy in Curacao and no longer have a license anywhere except Africa.

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    Criminal investigation

    In early 2020, awareness was raised of an ongoing scam involving embezzlement[citation needed] and unlawful practice,[5] highlighting attention through diplomatic channels.[citation needed]
    Later in August 2020, the Directorate of the Investigative Committee for the Russian Bryansk Region released the names of the supposed creators of 1xBet. These are "Sergey Karshkov", "Roman Semiokhin" and "Dmitry Kazorin".[6]
    The trio are suspected of organizing the online bookmaker 1xBet, and are defendants in a criminal case, with penalty of imprisonment. A number of estates in Russia with a total value of 1.5 billion rubles were seized.[6] The Investigative Committee of Russia has put them on the international wanted list. All three have Cypriot citizenship.[5]
    In 2021, Parlan Law Firm announced a search for victims of 1Xbet in Russia. The company has organized a service for filing applications to the investigative committee. They filed a lawsuit against the owner of the Russian version of 1Xbet - bookmaker 1XStavka.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1xBet

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    Didn’t post that so you could go off deflecting from shitbook Betcoin, was just an example of SBGOK’s work to help the non shill brethren.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cicadasinthe View Post
    Didn’t post that so you could go off deflecting from shitbook Betcoin, was just an example of SBGOK’s work to help the non shill brethren.
    You have problems with many books, you follow me around, bumped 6 Nitrogen threads in a short time and ghost. This is why people don't believe guys with real problems. A lot of them are like you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jooy View Post
    Hi guys

    Still have not received any information from Betcoin or Playbetr, no replies to my emails. Does anyone know what to do or who to contact?

    Hope that someone could help me, thanks
    Same situation. Betcoin closed my account and not responding to emails.

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    Cicad- I'll make it easy on you. Today or tomorrow I'll be in Players Talk discussing NFL. Next week I'll come back and keep everyone up to date on everything Betcoin. You can follow me around, call me a shill, set up a ghost account and nominate your own post.
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    There's obvious ghosts here at SBR in this thread. Betcoin has a ton of people that multi-account. They are very strict about multi-accounting and if caught, you'll pay a price. We don't know if there's an innocent person that got caught in the net. We also don't know if it's the same one or two people that multi-accounted that are running around to different forums and social media outlets smearing Betcoin. Look at what one guy can do here at SBR in a short amount of time. If he's given two weeks, there's no telling how many different places he'll hit.

    Posting in the bitcoin forum at SBR for 8 years, if someone that posts there has a complaint, I'll take that very seriously. Otherwise, I feel very secure that any vet here won't have any problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chamot View Post
    Same situation. Betcoin closed my account and not responding to emails.
    Welcome to the forum Chamot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post
    2014-15 lots of problems. Now there aren't any problems at all and the interface is nice.
    Is the interface still nice at least?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cicadasinthe View Post
    Is the interface still nice at least?

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    Beautiful Casper. Try Betcoin, the interface is better than Playbetr. I'll give you credit for admitting it.
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    Iíve had and account at betcoin for at least six years, Iíve never had any issues depositing or withdrawing. My issues are with the site itself. Maybe Iím just dumb but I canít figure out the betting interface. I tried the legacy interface and the newer one to no avail. Iím going to try again on my desktop computer and see if itís easier but the site seems slow as well. I also couldnít find halftime bets and there were only two live NCAA football games available. Iím sure itís me but the site layout doesnít flow like Iím used to. The withdrawal I requested today took about two hours, is that normal for betcoin these days? I expected it to be faster but it was a decent amount and my first withdrawal in years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PD77 View Post
    I’ve had and account at betcoin for at least six years, I’ve never had any issues depositing or withdrawing. My issues are with the site itself. Maybe I’m just dumb but I can’t figure out the betting interface. I tried the legacy interface and the newer one to no avail. I’m going to try again on my desktop computer and see if it’s easier but the site seems slow as well. I also couldn’t find halftime bets and there were only two live NCAA football games available. I’m sure it’s me but the site layout doesn’t flow like I’m used to. The withdrawal I requested today took about two hours, is that normal for betcoin these days? I expected it to be faster but it was a decent amount and my first withdrawal in years.
    This is what I would do since I've done this. Send a support ticket and tell them where you heard about them and the problem. I've done that a few times. I had a problem changing odds decimal to American since it's different Beta and Legacy. I once had a SHIB withdraw that took longer than normal. They were pretty good explaining it to me. Support tickets do help if live chat can't solve the problem to your liking. The other thing is that they listen and make improvements. You're a long time poster here and they will listen to you.
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    And two hours isn't normal. I'd hit live chat if it took longer than 1 hour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post
    Beautiful Casper. Try Betcoin, the interface is better than Playbetr. I'll give you credit for admitting it.
    Was a joke. Funny how you take everything you read on the internet at face value except legitimate complaints against your shill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cicadasinthe View Post
    Was a joke. Funny how you take everything you read on the internet at face value except legitimate complaints against your shill.

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    You're here nominating posts that are anti-Betcoin. Then you make a post and a newbie with 0 posts nominates your post. No SBR vet has their money locked and communication ceased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cicadasinthe View Post
    Was a joke. Funny how you take everything you read on the internet at face value except legitimate complaints against your shill.

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    Who is this dipshit? And why did she sign the post with my alias?

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