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    NJ Gov Christie conditionally vetoes internet gambling bill (VIDEO)

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    Pressure keeps getting to him, he said only thing that stopping him and if it had a 10 year trial clause

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    He has said that he will not allow any internet gambling if sports gambling is not approved in NJ

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    This was never going to happen. Sounded too good to be true. You need a more liberal state like California to lead the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordVodka View Post
    This was never going to happen. Sounded too good to be true. You need a more liberal state like California to lead the way.
    We live in hope . . . and if someone was going to do it i really thought Christie had the guts (literally) to do it!!! shame!

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    He made his choice. Try to pass internet gambling or eat another donut. Guess which one he chose.






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    Personally hate this man

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    Screw that fat bastard, use to like the guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR Natalie View Post
    We live in hope . . . and if someone was going to do it i really thought Christie had the guts (literally) to do it!!! shame!
    Umm i coulda sworn what your saying is not entirely correct. I read that he did a conditional veto not a veto to stop it but to add to it. He wants 15% tax instead of 10% and he wants it to be rewritten for a trial of 10years. How is that a loss? He is sending it back to be revised the Senator said it should be done by or before march 18. This is a win for NJ, u might want to look at it further.
    Here is an email i got from the PPA that im part of-
    I have excellent news to report. Today, Governor Christie announced his “conditional approval” of legislation that will license and regulate Internet poker (see PPA statement). He has now sent the bill back to the state legislature and has asked them to adopt amendments to the bill which include an increased tax rate for online operators, impact studies, stronger consumer protections and more funding for problem gaming prevention and treatment. You can read the governor’s conditions by clicking here.

    While this is a significant victory, there is still some work to be done. We must urge the New Jersey legislature to act quickly and return the bill to Governor Christie’s desk for final signature. Please send your Legislators a pre-written fully editable letter by clicking hereOR on the button below, urging them to take swift action in support of this very important legislation.

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    Natalie do you like athletic men who wear a size 12 shoe?

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    Fat man alert! Fat man alert!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Fat man alert! Fat man alert!

    you know all about fat

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    he needs to stand up for his state to play with the big boys...but he is scared

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    Quote Originally Posted by kfranz31 View Post
    he needs to stand up for his state to play with the big boys...but he is scared
    Stand up for his state. LOL.

    He is a tool of the Republican Party and will do whatever his puppet handlers tell his fat ass to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR Natalie View Post
    i really thought Christie had the guts (literally) to do it!!!

    Funny and beautiful!

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    didnt want to see odds on his impending heart attack

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    Ms. Cleo reference? The majority of the posters here are so young they have no clue who Ms Cleo is.

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    Anyway, good for him. He will be our next prez. WTF would you want to pass it if you were he?

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    Today is a great day at the PPA, and as a 2013 PPA member, I just wanted to drop you a quick note so you're among the first to know.
    Governor Chris Christie (R-NJ) today took action to bring Internet poker to the state of New Jersey. His conditional veto (this is a good thing for sure!) will create for New Jersey “an historic opportunity to continue the State’s leadership as a premiere destination for tourism and entertainment…" He went on to say in his message to the legislature: "I have concluded that now is the time for our State to move forward, again leading the way for the nation, by becoming one of the first states to permit Internet gaming.”
    This is excellent news, and we at the PPA believe that New Jersey is just the first of many states that will bring licensed, safe, Internet poker to the United States. We'll continue fighting so we can make it happen in your state soon!
    Thank you for your membership and support. Victories like this would not be possible without you.

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    Think it's important to be cautiously optimistic on the conditional veto. This is a guy that has waffled before. I don't think his requirements were show stoppers, so it makes you wonder if he's just buying time and if so for what reason?

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    So internet gambling is not the same as sports gambling? Are we talking online poker? If ao, its obviously not in AC's best interests to legalize it.

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    The citizens of New Jersey can fire back at him by banning Dunkin Donuts and Krispe Kreme from NJ.

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    Underworld has this fat fuk in their pocket he looks like you just need to keep him in donuts and he will do what they want. They also probably had a few ho's roll his fat ass around in bacon grease and blow him

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    Give it some time people. The state is already going to court over sports betting with the Feds. What's the point of spending money to get internet sports betting going if it all gets shot down anyway?

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    From Chris Christie's Office:
    http://nj.gov/governor/news/news/552...20130207d.html

    Trenton, NJ -
    Recognizing the value and potential of internet gaming to support his Administration's efforts to revitalize Atlantic City, Governor Chris Christie today put forward a balanced proposal to support the implementation of internet gaming in New Jersey in a careful, measured and responsible way. Governor Christie concludes that now is the right time for the state to move forward and again lead the nation by becoming one of the first states to permit Internet gaming, but only with the right limitations and protections.
    "This bill represents an important policy decision for the residents of New Jersey, and a historic opportunity to continue the State's leadership as a premiere destination for tourism and entertainment. Such a significant step must be carefully considered, balancing the benefits of job creation, economic development, and the continued revitalization of Atlantic City against the risks of addiction, corruption and improper influence. It is my duty as Governor to make these determinations, always mindful of my duty to guarantee the continued welfare of our families, our neighbors, and the future generations who will call our State home," said Governor Christie.
    The Governor's proposal, contained in his conditional veto of Assembly Bill 2578, recommends critical, but commonsense safeguards to limit risks of gambling addiction, corruption and improper influence while fostering benefits of job creation and continued economic development and revitalization of Atlantic City.
    "My proposal continues the tradition in New Jersey of a fine, careful, and well-regulated implementation of gaming. With these changes, we will increase resources to treat compulsive gambling, provide sensible safeguards to ensure careful oversight and a proper annual review of the implementation of internet gaming, along with a 10-year sunset for future leaders to carefully reevaluate internet gaming as a state policy broadly and critical transparency measures to guard against undue and improper influence and self-dealing," continued the Governor.
    To accomplish these competing interests and societal protections, Governor Christie's conditional veto of Assembly Bill 2578 recommends:

    • Extending existing prohibitions on casino-related employment and representation for state employees and Legislators to Internet gaming licensees and their promoters and affiliates.
    • Establishing a sensible requirement that state elected officials promptly disclose their past and present representations of entities seeking or holding Internet gaming licenses.
    • An enhanced level of funding for compulsive gambling treatment programs and additional financial support for other beneficial purposes for which casino gaming was originally authorized.

    In his conditional veto, the Governor gave great weight to concerns over the potential spread of excessive gambling. "Our State cannot carelessly create a new generation of addicted gamers, sitting in their homes, using laptops or iPads, gambling their salaries and their futures," he said. To protect against such a proliferation of gambling addiction, the Governor further proposes the requirement of an annual analysis of the potential harms associated with these new games to be undertaken at the expense of the gaming licensees. Furthermore, he recommends that Internet gaming and its societal impact should be studied and periodically revisited. To that end, he proposes that the law sunset after a period of 10 years, giving future policy-makers the opportunity to revise and renew the law if appropriate.
    The Governor's careful adoption of an Internet gaming law comes in the context and builds upon his efforts to revive Atlantic City, protect and grow its tourism base and create jobs. Since the start of his Administration, the Governor confronted the complex challenges threatening Atlantic City's unrivaled combination of natural seaside beauty, world-class attractions and easy access from around the world. One of his earliest acts as Governor was to establish an Advisory Commission on Gaming, Sports and Entertainment to study issues and develop a comprehensive approach to preserving Atlantic City's stature as a premiere resort destination. Among the results of those efforts was the establishment of a Tourism District with a comprehensive initiative to address blight and public safety.
    The Tourism District Law led to a $30 million marketing plan and the realignment of State gaming agencies to minimize bureaucracy while enhancing oversight. Also in 2011, the Governor signed a second bill into law enacting the most comprehensive overhaul of the State's casino regulations since 1977. This reform eliminated many significantly outdated regulators burdens, allowing the casino industry to reinvest and redevelop throughout the Tourism District.
    A-2578/S-1565 was sponsored by Senators Ray Lesniak (D-Union) and Jim Whelan (D-Atlantic) and Assemblymembers John Burzichelli (D-Cumberland, Gloucester and Salem), Vincent Prieto (D-Bergen and Hudson), and Ruben Ramos (D-Hudson).
    A copy of the Governor's conditional veto can be found attached to the release.
    # # #
    Press Contact:
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    I live in Jersey. When he runs for president, this alone, will take a vote away from him. I planned on voting for him but he wants to be a jackass? Fuk the fat bastard. (I don't like making fun of people, fat,etc....I just think that Christie is letting his immediate response to Hurricane Sandy get to his head. He's gaining some fame and he likes it)

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    Quote Originally Posted by will2survive View Post
    I live in Jersey. When he runs for president, this alone, will take a vote away from him. I planned on voting for him but he wants to be a jackass? Fuk the fat bastard. (I don't like making fun of people, fat,etc....I just think that Christie is letting his immediate response to Hurricane Sandy get to his head. He's gaining some fame and he likes it)
    You're not going to vote for him in the '16 election because he doesn't support Internet gambling?

    I'm the biggest degenerate alive, and even I think this line of reasoning is asinine. Don't let your affection for gambling intermingle with your focus on real-world issues. This isn't one of them.

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    I think the larger concern is that he's misleading and waffles. Many expected him to sign it into law right away given that the legislation had already been changed to address his concerns during the last veto. He seems to be buying time and isn't ready to commit just yet, for whatever reason.

    Also, the fact that he throws his own party under the bus and seems to enjoy his little slice of fame make him more of a Sarah Palin than a legit contender for POTUS.

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    land of the free

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    well, at least I won't be planning to spend more time in New Jersey

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    Good interview with Senator Lesniak Sbrtv. Christie hasnt done Atlantic city any favors with this veto. I wonder how this will effect Poker Stars desire to buy the Atlantic city casino. We need a follow up interview with Lesniak after Christies veto.

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    Why doesn't the state legislature fix what Christie didn't like and then send it back to him? He simply wants all the employees that would be involved to be checked out and state employees checked out as well. He also wants funding to help with people addicted to gambling. What's wrong with that? Seems sensible to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    You're not going to vote for him in the '16 election because he doesn't support Internet gambling?

    I'm the biggest degenerate alive, and even I think this line of reasoning is asinine. Don't let your affection for gambling intermingle with your focus on real-world issues. This isn't one of them.
    In the scheme of things, I find that a better reason than abortion, religion, gay rights, etc.

    We need to push back, get a helluva lot more personal liberties back. It's an absolute disgrace that we have let our rights erode to the point they are now legitimately threatening gun ownership.

    Gambling and pot. There's a path to a brighter America.

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    If I ever run for President I would run on this platform:

    1. Legalize all forms of gambling.
    2. Legalize all forms of drugs.
    3. Abolish the drinking age limit.
    4. All guns are allowed even military style guns.

    Will you vote for me?

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