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    Knockout Rounds - Portugal vs Uruguay - Spain vs Russia - Lets Talk

    Awaiting lines. Would love to hear what they might be ? Thoughts ?

    I am probably backing Uruguay DNB if i am right about public perception. Its a " Ronaldo thing ", that creates crazy lines. Its a team game and i think Uruguay are the more polished side right now. Willing to sprinkle moneyline as well , if the price is right.

    Spain will pound Russia imo. Would love to see a decent price at -1. May consider - 1.5. Not really impressed with Spain to date, but they are a HUGE step above Russia and its crunch time.


    All positive input is appreciated........

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    I'm with you. I like Uruguay and Spain in these matchups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMANick View Post
    I'm with you. I like Uruguay and Spain in these matchups.
    Appreciate any lines that you see

    Thanks

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    Uruguay. It's clear they were sand bagging early on and building momentum for this run now

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    Too early too comment

    Portugal has zero shot

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    Uruguay (To Advance)
    0 -108
    Portugal (To Advance)
    0 -102

    11.00
    Uruguay
    +189
    0 -102
    Over 2
    +100
    Under 2
    -111
    Portugal
    +184
    0 -106
    Draw
    +202
    Sun 01/07 Soccer FIFA - World Cup Odds
    07.00
    Spain (To Advance)
    0 -367
    Russia (To Advance)
    0 +319

    07.00
    Spain
    -164
    -0.5 and -1 -126
    Over 2 and 2.5
    +100
    Under 2 and 2.5
    -111
    Russia
    +573
    +0.5 and +1 +114
    Draw
    +285
    Soccer - rules

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    been waiting all world cup refs hook russia up w a penalty or red card maybe they are saving it for spain game

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    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnatikid513 View Post
    been waiting all world cup refs hook russia up w a penalty or red card maybe they are saving it for spain game
    Spain world cup favorites. Books know more

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    Uruguay +169
    Portugal +176
    Draw +197

    Spain -167
    Mother Russia +500
    Draw +255

    Expect Uruguay and Spain to win IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Spain world cup favorites. Books know more
    books cant predict the russian desire win at all cost

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    Just bet :

    Uruguay @ 2.80
    DNB @ 1.98

    Spain -1 @ 2.17

    I feel confident that these lines will drop before the weekend hits

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    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnatikid513 View Post
    books cant predict the russian desire win at all cost
    They really arent that good. They showed some serious emotion and desire against Saudi Arabia ( cameo appearances for key players of Saudi ). Beat Egypt with plenty of mistakes made by their back 4. Today they were exactly the team that everyone thought they were coming into this World Cup ......1 win in 10 games and looking horrible. I will take my chances with the depth of Spain to expose them for the average team they are. Desire cant replace talent. ( And coach Hererro should replace Costa with Aspach ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Uruguay (To Advance)
    0 -108
    Portugal (To Advance)
    0 -102

    11.00
    Uruguay
    +189
    0 -102
    Over 2
    +100
    Under 2
    -111
    Portugal
    +184
    0 -106
    Draw
    +202
    Sun 01/07 Soccer FIFA - World Cup Odds
    07.00
    Spain (To Advance)
    0 -367
    Russia (To Advance)
    0 +319

    07.00
    Spain
    -164
    -0.5 and -1 -126
    Over 2 and 2.5
    +100
    Under 2 and 2.5
    -111
    Russia
    +573
    +0.5 and +1 +114
    Draw
    +285
    Soccer - rules
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    little concerned all the goals spain are allowing

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    Quote Originally Posted by franz555 View Post
    Awaiting lines. Would love to hear what they might be ? Thoughts ?

    I am probably backing Uruguay DNB if i am right about public perception. Its a " Ronaldo thing ", that creates crazy lines. Its a team game and i think Uruguay are the more polished side right now. Willing to sprinkle moneyline as well , if the price is right.

    Spain will pound Russia imo. Would love to see a decent price at -1. May consider - 1.5. Not really impressed with Spain to date, but they are a HUGE step above Russia and its crunch time.


    All positive input is appreciated........
    The first pick that comes to my mind in Portugal vs Uruguay is both teams to score. Portugal's backline haven't fully convinced me yet in this tournament. At times they look really shaky, especially during corners and free-kicks.
    Uruguay as we know is really dangerous when it comes to set-pieces with Cavani and Godin. Suarez also converted a free-kick today vs Russia.

    Uruguay has a strong defense, not allowed a single goal in their group stages but with Ronaldo and maybe 2-3 others good players for Portugal who can be a goal threat against Uruguay, I can see Portugal to find the back of the net in this matchup as well.

    First thought for the matchup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by franz555 View Post
    Just bet :

    Uruguay @ 2.80
    DNB @ 1.98

    Spain -1 @ 2.17

    I feel confident that these lines will drop before the weekend hits
    I think the Spain line drop will faster than the Uruguay line since most of the tipster, sports bettors and the public will say this: Russia beat two easy opponents easily (Egypt and Saudia Arabia) but when it comes to the better teams (like Uruguay) they can't keep up with them. Spain is a level above Uruguay to most people, so I think fading Russia will reflect in the line dropping quicker.

    Uruguay is tougher bc Portugal is the Euro Champion 2016 and they have Ronaldo on their squad,plus the draw vs Iran came through a penalty, think some people will have this in mind, Spain barely beat Iran 1:0 so Iran is a though opponent bc they defend till the last minute.

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    Russia will beat Spain.

    Portugal/Uruguay is a coin toss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackballer View Post
    The first pick that comes to my mind in Portugal vs Uruguay is both teams to score. Portugal's backline haven't fully convinced me yet in this tournament. At times they look really shaky, especially during corners and free-kicks.
    Uruguay as we know is really dangerous when it comes to set-pieces with Cavani and Godin. Suarez also converted a free-kick today vs Russia.

    Uruguay has a strong defense, not allowed a single goal in their group stages but with Ronaldo and maybe 2-3 others good players for Portugal who can be a goal threat against Uruguay, I can see Portugal to find the back of the net in this matchup as well.

    First thought for the matchup.
    Uruguay havent conceded a goal in 6 straight now. I am a firm believer in " The trend IS your friend ". That back line is so stellar, with proven players like Godin and Gimenez ( both at A. Madrid ) ....Caceres @ Lazio who is the rock of that backline. If you believe that " Defence wins Championships "......

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    will take uruguay to advance, could be a very ugly low scoring game 0-0 1-0 1-1 extra time

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    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnatikid513 View Post
    will take uruguay to advance, could be a very ugly low scoring game 0-0 1-0 1-1 extra time

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    Uruguay - Portugal over 2 goals
    Uruguay pk
    Spain - Russia under 2.5
    Russia +1 AH

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhoor View Post
    Russia will beat Spain.

    Portugal/Uruguay is a coin toss.
    you think so? please tell us why!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnatikid513 View Post
    will take uruguay to advance, could be a very ugly low scoring game 0-0 1-0 1-1 extra time
    I also see a 1-1 and extras here, but main pick would be both teams to score in this one, the rest will be decided in extras.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackballer View Post
    I also see a 1-1 and extras here, but main pick would be both teams to score in this one, the rest will be decided in extras.
    uruguay have given up 0 goals so can't rule out 1-0 or 2-0 win portugal scored 3 in the 1st game haven't been lighting it up since then i just favor uruguay to advance much more all around team

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    Quote Originally Posted by franz555 View Post
    Uruguay havent conceded a goal in 6 straight now. I am a firm believer in " The trend IS your friend ". That back line is so stellar, with proven players like Godin and Gimenez ( both at A. Madrid ) ....Caceres @ Lazio who is the rock of that backline. If you believe that " Defence wins Championships "......
    I am not against defense wins championships but defenses also need timely offense to show up when needed after the defense is doing all the work, even if you have 99% of defense you still need that 1% offense to win the game even if it's a 1:0 game or converted penalties after 120 minutes.

    Atletico Madrid is a good example for this they have their defense but most of offense comes from Griezman (usually not every time Griezman). Their game principal is based on a strong defense first.

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    Staying away from unders in K.O. stage.

    1. It's 2018 soccer science/tactics era
    2. Refereeing in favour of offensive ball.
    3. VAR technology

    Just a early lean on under in Spa - Rus cause the odds are doable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackballer View Post
    I am not against defense wins championships but defenses also need timely offense to show up when needed after the defense is doing all the work, even if you have 99% of defense you still need that 1% offense to win the game even if it's a 1:0 game or converted penalties after 120 minutes.

    Atletico Madrid is a good example for this they have their defense but most of offense comes from Griezman (usually not every time Griezman). Their game principal is based on a strong defense first.
    I guess I should have included...... in those 6 straight shutouts....ALL were wins. They don't get involved in shootouts, but Cavani and Suarez have scored a few.

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    Uruguay built to win it all. Very reminiscent of the Italian teams that would win 1-0

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    Uruguay winner will lose after.

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    Uruguay won't win unless it's on penalty kicks.

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    I just wait for Suarez to do something stupid like in every World Cup he is involved in. Now with the VAR he could be a liabilty for Uruguay in case he does something stupid again because this time they can look it up on the video review. Will be interesting to see if something really happens this time

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadymcgrady View Post
    Uruguay built to win it all. Very reminiscent of the Italian teams that would win 1-0
    Agreed


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    This knockout stage is shaping up to be very intriguing

    Teams like brazil and Columbia are loaded with talent and appear to be making strides in developing chemistry and familiarity

    Others like Uruguay, france and Spain alrdy know theor formula and are waiting for the tourney to rly start before they put forth their best effort

    Last year's darling dark horse Belgium has come out and picked up where the hype left off 4 yrs ago. It'll be interesting to see if they have enough coal left in their reserves to get all the way or not

    And of course the defending and perhaps greatest storied country ever in terms of world cup success saved by a set piece and a thread in the waning moments of the group stage. Are they awake and focused now?

    I hope we see a true dog like Senegal make it and play a little more focused and disciplined so that make a deep run

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackballer View Post

    you think so? please tell us why!






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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    Uruguay - Portugal over 2 goals
    Uruguay pk
    Spain - Russia under 2.5
    Russia +1 AH


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