1. 11-16-09 04:23 PM #1
    EaglesPhan36
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    SBR Golden Shoe Tournament: DAILY LINES

    This is the thread where the Daily Lines will be located throughout the tournament. I am going to keep them in one thread to make them easy to find. Remember, any picks you make that are not from these Daily Lines posted by myself or a replacement (named in advance if needed) - will be graded as NO ACTION.

    I am going to try to get the lines up around the same time each day, approximately 10pm ET. Lines again are from Pinnacle Sports and once they are posted in this thread are the only ones allowed for use that day. The only leagues we are using are: Brazil Serie A, English Premier, Italy Serie A, Spain Primera Division, Germany Bundesliga, France Ligue 1, Champions League, Europa League & World Cup.

    Therefore, those are the only lines that will be listed. If there are no matches on a given day that fit into those leagues, I will post a simple message - NO MATCHES TODAY.

    Also, those of you who are wanting some other leagues included - BE PATIENT, I am working on some ideas for the Knockout Stages of this tournament that I believe will make everyone happy. Good luck and if you have any questions, please PM me or visit the betpoints Forum and the Golden Shoe Group Stages/Rules Thread where many questions have been asked & answered and can be in the future!

    Link below for that thread.
    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sbr-points...ups-rules.html
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  2. 11-16-09 05:09 PM #2
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    BOL to all.
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  3. 11-16-09 06:24 PM #3
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    eaglesphan, u have done a very very nice job here...Being the first football tournament on sbr (i think) the prizes aren't big, and the rules are hard to satisfy everyone. But u've made good rules, and I personally am not here for the points, but for the spirit of such a competition.

    Once again congrats and thank you a lot
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  4. 11-16-09 08:02 PM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by mihaita666 View Post
    eaglesphan, u have done a very very nice job here
    Agreed ... very well organized. Should be fun!
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  5. 11-16-09 08:13 PM #5
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    TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 17th

    *NO MATCHES TODAY*

    I will still wait until tomorrow night, but probably a little earlier to post the Wednesday lines which will be World Cup Playoffs & Brazil Serie-A.
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  6. 11-16-09 08:33 PM #6
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    I was thinking, why not include "lower" leagues on days where there aren't any top league matches? I can understand why it would be slightly confusing to implement, but action is always good!
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  7. 11-16-09 08:48 PM #7
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    this week sux for me all A games are on sunday except for 1 on wed i challenge anyone for the rest of serie b on the side if they would like????
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  8. 11-17-09 03:09 PM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by mew6789 View Post
    I was thinking, why not include "lower" leagues on days where there aren't any top league matches? I can understand why it would be slightly confusing to implement, but action is always good!
    because if ep allows it, why not allowing it all the time ? its fine for me, roumanian cup matches. A good contest has strict rules
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  9. 11-17-09 04:10 PM #9
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    Let the tournament start. Then we could manage it for enlarging to other championship if EP is agree.
    Actually many ideas could delay the starting. Everyone's for fun here....
    So let's start....:-)
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  10. 11-17-09 05:07 PM #10
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    Remember moneyline wagering will only be available for favorites up to -300 and underdogs up to +300. I will mark anything that has a price over these as "UNAVAILABLE" for wagering. Draw prices are also included in this, nothing higher than +300 will be listed. This was done to try & keep this competition as honest as possible and not allow someone to desperately pick a few huge underdogs to try to win a match-up.

    For anyone not familiar with the Asian Handicap, which in soccer/football is where you see lines that say "PK, -0.5" or something to that effect, when you place a wager on this line - you are putting half your stakes on PK (Draw) and half on your pick winning -0.5. Same goes for split totals where you see "2.5 & 3" - half your wager is on 2.5, half on 3. So if the total falls exactly on three, you'd win half the bet by beating 2.5, but PUSHING 3.

    Remember if you are making any selection one of your "BEST BETS" for a grading period, you must mark it as such when you make your selection.

    LINES FOR WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 18TH
    BRAZIL SERIE-A
    Match Time: 6:50pm ET
    Gremio PK, -0.5 [+126]
    Palmeiras PK, +0.5 [-137]

    Gremio +161
    Palmeiras +187
    Draw +234

    OVER 2.5 & 3 [-103]
    UNDER 2.5 & 3 [-107]

    WORLD CUP QUALIFIERS/PLAYOFFS
    Match Time: 12:30pm ET
    Egypt -0.5 [+107]
    Algeria +0.5 [-120]

    Egypt +107
    Algeria [MONEYLINE NOT AVAILABLE]
    Draw +229

    Over 2 [-114]
    Under 2 [+101]
    ======================================== ==============
    Match Time: 1:00pm ET
    Ukraine -0.5 [-119]
    Greece +0.5 [+110]

    Ukraine -119
    Greece [MONEYLINE NOT AVAILABLE]
    Draw +240

    Over 2 [-105]
    Under 2 [-105]
    ======================================== ==============
    Match Time: 2:45pm ET
    Bosnia-Herzegovina PK [+120]
    Portugal PK [-130]

    Bosnia-Herzegovina +206
    Portugal +146
    Draw +244

    Over 2.5 [+107]
    Under 2.5 [-118]
    ======================================== ==============
    Match Time: 2:45pm ET
    Slovenia PK, +0.5 [-114]
    Russia PK, -0.5 [+105]

    Slovenia +233
    Russia +139
    Draw +227

    Over 2 & 2.5 [-104]
    Under 2 & 2.5 [-106]
    ======================================== ==============
    Match Time: 3:00pm ET
    France -1 [-102]
    Ireland +1 [-106]

    France -186
    Ireland [MONEYLINE NOT AVAILABLE]
    Draw [MONEYLINE NOT AVAILABLE]

    Over 2 & 2.5 [+105]
    Under 2 & 2.5 [-116]
    ======================================== ==============
    Match Time: 6:00pm ET
    Uruguay -1 [-130
    Costa Rica +1 [+120]

    Uruguay -216
    Costa Rica [MONEYLINE NOT AVAILABLE]
    Draw [MONEYLINE NOT AVAILABLE]

    Over 2.5 [+102]
    Under 2.5 [-113]
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  11. 11-17-09 05:22 PM #11
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    Forgot to add that all wagers are for 90 minutes plus injury time only as most books do, so do we. Extra Time, Penalties, etc. do not count toward the final outcome.
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  12. 11-17-09 10:41 PM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by demize21 View Post
    this week sux for me all A games are on sunday except for 1 on wed i challenge anyone for the rest of serie b on the side if they would like????
    Come on man, pick stuff from midweek WC Playoffs and the other leagues specified. There is a French league game on Friday too.
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  13. 11-18-09 10:36 AM #13
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    Just bumping this for anyone who needs to see the lines for today.
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  14. 11-18-09 11:18 AM #14
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    What do you mean if a game is "over 2 & 2.5"?!?! How is this different than a standard over 2.5. just want to make sure
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  15. 11-18-09 12:45 PM #15
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    Over 2 & 2.5 - your one unit wager is split in half. Half goes on 2 and the other Half on 2.5. So for example, if you bet Russia & Slovenia at OVER 2 & 2.5 at -104, your total wager is 1.04 units to win 1 unit. 0.52 units goes on the OVER at 2. 0.52 units goes on the OVER at 2.5 units. So if the final is 3 goals, you win both bets. If the final is 2 goals, you'd lose the OVER 2.5, but PUSH the OVER 2 and only lose 0.52 units.
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  16. 11-18-09 07:04 PM #16
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    THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 19th

    *NO MATCHES TODAY*

    Friday there will be one match posted for France Ligue 1. I will post Saturday & Sunday lines if they are all available on Friday during the day to give everyone a lot of time to pick & choose.
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  17. 11-19-09 10:44 AM #17
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    Thanks to whomever pinned this sucker to make it easier to find.
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  18. 11-19-09 03:48 PM #18
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    lol
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  19. 11-19-09 05:53 PM #19
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    LINES FOR FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 20th
    FRANCE LIGUE 1
    Match Time: 3:00pm ET
    Olympique Marseille -0.5 & -1 [+102]
    Paris St. Germain +0.5 & +1 [-110]

    Marseille -130
    Paris St. Germain [moneyline not available]
    Draw +262

    Over 2 & 2.5 [-116]
    Under 2 & 2.5 [+105]
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  20. 11-20-09 01:18 AM #20
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    Those 2/2.5 lines are shocking. It should be the standard 2.5.
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  21. 11-20-09 08:07 AM #21
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    pinnacle has his own standards :P
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  22. 11-20-09 10:16 AM #22
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    yea dont care for the 2.5,3 lines
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  23. 11-20-09 10:19 AM #23
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    Last reminder ahead of this weekend's action, these people still owe the 25 point entry fee. If you do not pay this fee, any pick you make will be graded as NO ACTION until I receive your entry fee. If you do not pay your fee before the current contest week is over (Sunday, Nov.22), you will be graded as 0-10 for the week with a net loss of 10 units. That is the minimum # of picks required each week and I cannot see a more fair way to grade anyone who has not paid or forgot about the competition. Leaving your total at 0-0 with (0.00 units) could potentially give you a leg up on your opponent if they have a negative balance and I do not see that as being fair if they already paid up and are making picks. So please pay up if you haven't or PM me if there is a reason behind lack of payment (No betpoints, etc) and I will work with you to cover the fee until you can pay so long as you make the effort to let me know what is going on.

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  24. 11-20-09 10:50 AM #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace_of_Spades View Post
    Those 2/2.5 lines are shocking. It should be the standard 2.5.
    I agree...these are silly
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  25. 11-20-09 11:30 AM #25
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    If the majority want it, we can switch to a different source for lines for the next week of matches. I don't think they are that weird, just many may be used to books that don't do many split lines. Personal preference I suppose. In any case, whatever the majority decides is cool with me. If there are more complaints, I'll make an executive decision on a new source - BetPhoenix was the one I had though to use to begin with.

    As a side note, I will try to have the weekend matches posted early this evening for everyone's convenience. It will just take a bit to get them all organized. Hoping by 8m ET that I will have them all up.
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  26. 11-20-09 11:38 AM #26
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    I don't see any problem with the 2/2.5 lines tbh.
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  27. 11-20-09 02:57 PM #27
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    I'd officially vote to change to standard 2. 2.5, or 3 for the O/U lines.
    You're doing a great job EP...your clearly spending a decent amount of time on this to make it something we all enjoy...you're doing a great job mate
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  28. 11-20-09 03:12 PM #28
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    If we switch to Betpho, you're still going to get split lines. Leave it be, Juice gets crazy on straight 2.5 lines only.
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  29. 11-20-09 04:04 PM #29
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    I vote the standard 2.5. Juice shouldn't be a problem. Its all about winning.
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  30. 11-20-09 06:34 PM #30
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    I like the split lines, it could add another level of strategy at the end of each matchup.
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  31. 11-20-09 06:35 PM #31
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    i agree ace and should be either +/- .5 or +/- 1,2,3 etc that half half bs is annoying IMHO should have separate PK/DNB lines also if within money line limits

    i vote to standard over under and AH DNB if within limits of +/- 300
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  32. 11-20-09 06:38 PM #32
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    Okay here come the weekend lines. Since there are so many leagues, I will posting each league with one post to make it easier to read. If you notice any blatant mistakes on lines, let me know as I have been doing this for hours, so my eyes may have F-ed up!

    BRAZIL SERIE A

    SATURDAY, 11/21
    Match Time: 3:30pm ET
    Atletico Paranaense PK [-106]
    Cruzeiro PK [-102

    Atletico Paranaense +170
    Cruzeiro +174
    Draw +242

    Over 2.5 & 3 [+103]
    Under 2.5 & 3 [-114]

    Match Time: 3:30pm ET
    Corinthians -0.5 & -1 [-108]
    Nautico +0.5 & +1 [+100]

    Corinthians -142
    Nautico [MONEYLINE NOT AVAILABLE]
    Draw +293

    Over 2.5 & 3 [-114]
    Under 2.5 & 3 [+103]

    SUNDAY, 11/22
    Match Time: 2:00pm ET
    Botafogo PK -102
    Sao Paulo PK -106

    Botafogo +180
    Sao Paulo +169
    Draw +232

    Over 2.5 [+104]
    Under 2.5 [-115]

    Match Time: 2:00pm ET
    Santo Andre PK -135
    Avai PK +125

    Santo Andre +139
    Avai +210
    Draw +248

    Over 2.5 & 3 [+102]
    Under 2.5 & 3 [-113]

    Match Time: 2:00pm ET
    Santos -0.5 [-108]
    Coritiba +0.5 [+100]

    Santos -1038
    Coritiba [MONEYLINE NOT AVAILABLE]
    Draw +265

    Over 2.5 & 3 [+100]
    Under 2.5 & 3 [-110]

    Match Time: 2:00pm ET
    Sport Recife PK & +0.5 [+124]
    Fluminense PK & -0.5 [-134]

    Sport Recife +291
    Fluminense +103
    Draw +251

    Over 2.5 & 3 [+100]
    Under 2.5 & 3 [-110]

    Match Time: 4:30pm ET
    Atletico Mineiro PK & -0.5 [-116]
    Internacional PK & +0.5 [+107]

    Atletico Mineiro +112
    Internacional +240
    Draw +251

    Over 2.5 & 3 [-102]
    Under 2.5 & 3 [-108]

    Match Time: 4:30pm ET
    Flamengo -1 & -1.5 [+104]
    Goais +1 & +1.5 [-112]

    Flamengo -231
    Goais [MONEYLINE NOT AVAILABLE]
    Draw [NOT AVAILABLE]

    Over 3 [+106]
    Under 3 [-117]

    Match Time: 4:30pm ET
    Vitoria -0.5 [-117]
    Gremio Bareuri +0.5 [+108]

    Vitoria -117
    Gremio Bareuri [MONEYLINE NOT AVAILABLE]
    Draw +274

    Over 2.5 [-126]
    Under 2.5 [+114]
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    Ole ole ole ole
    ENGLAND PREMIER LEAGUE

    SATURDAY, 11/21
    Match Time: 7:45am ET
    Liverpool -0.5 [+105]
    ManchesterCity +0.5 [-113]

    Liverpool +105
    ManchesterCity [+300]
    Draw +253

    Over 2.5 [-117]
    Under 2.5 [+108]

    Match Time: 10:00am ET
    Birmingham City PK [-129]
    Fulham PK [+119]

    BirminghamCity +153
    Fulham +214
    Draw +228

    Over 2 & 2.5 [+115]
    Under 2 & 2.5 [-125]

    Match Time: 10:00am ET
    Burnley PK & +0.5 [+112]
    Aston Villa PK & -0.5 [-108]

    Burnley +247
    Aston Villa +122
    Draw +254

    Over 2.5 [-118]
    Under 2.5 [+109]

    Match Time: 10:00am ET
    Chelsea -2 [+115]
    Wolverhampton +2 [-125]

    MONEYLINES & DRAW NOT AVAILABLE

    Over 3 [+103]
    Under 3 [-111]

    Match Time: 10:00am ET
    Hull City PK [+114]
    West Ham United PK [-123]

    HullCity +198
    West Ham United +156
    Draw +233

    Over 2.5 [+106]
    Under 2.5 [-115]

    Match Time: 10:00am ET
    Sunderland +1 [-138]
    Arsenal -1 [+127]

    Sunderland [MONEYLINE NOT AVAILABLE]
    Arsenal - 139
    Draw +276

    Over 3 [+107]
    Under 3 [-116]

    Match Time: 12:30pm ET
    Manchester United -1 & -1.5 [+104]
    Everton +1 & +1.5 [-111]

    Manchester United -245
    Everton [MONEYLINE NOT AVAILABLE]
    Draw [NOT AVAILABLE]

    Over 2.5 [-110]
    Under 2.5 [+102]

    SUNDAY, 11/22
    Match Time: 8:30am ET
    Bolton PK & -0.5 [-106]
    Blackburn PK & +0.5 [+100]

    Bolton +126
    Blackburn +253
    Draw +238

    Over 2.5 [+101]
    Under 2.5 [-109]

    Match Time: 10:00am ET
    Tottenham -1 [-120]
    Wigan Athletic +1 [+111]

    Tottenham -205
    Wigan Athletic [LINE NOT AVAILABLE]
    Draw [NOT AVAILABLE]

    Over 2.5 & 3 [-113]
    Under 2.5 & 3 [+104]

    Match Time: 11:00am ET
    Stoke City -0.5 [+115]
    Portsmouth +0.5 [-125]

    Stoke City +113
    Portsmouth +272
    Draw +249

    Over 2 & 2.5 [-107]
    Under 2 & 2.5 [-101]
    Last edited by EaglesPhan36; 11-20-09 at 07:36 PM.
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  34. 11-20-09 06:45 PM #34
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    France cheated.

    FRANCE LIGUE 1

    SATURDAY, 11/21
    Match Time: 1:00pm ET
    Bordeaux -1 and -1.5 [+103]
    Valenciennes +1 and +1.5 [-111]

    Bordeaux -241
    Valenciennes [NOT AVAILABLE]
    Draw [NOT AVAILABLE]

    Over 2.5 [+104]
    Under 2.5 [-115]

    Match Time: 1:00pm ET
    Grenoble +1 [+104]
    Olympique Lyon -1 [-113]

    Grenoble [NOT AVAILABLE]
    Olympique Lyon -194

    Over 2 & 2.5 [-102]
    Under 2 & 2.5 [-108]

    Match Time: 1:00pm ET
    RC Lens PK and -0.5 [+110]
    Nancy PK and +0.5 [-119]

    RC Lens +148
    Nancy +233
    Draw +214

    Over 2 [-129]
    Under 2. [+117]

    Match Time: 1:00pm ET
    Stade Rennais -1 [-105]
    LeMans +1 [-103]

    Stade Rennais -191
    LeMans [NOT AVAILABLE]
    Draw [NOT AVAILABLE]

    Over 2 & 2.5 [-101]
    Under 2 & 2.5 [-109]

    Match Time: 3:00pm ET
    AJ Auxerre PK and -0.5 [+110]
    Monaco PK and +0.5 [-119]

    AJ Auxerre +128
    Monaco +267
    Draw +221

    Over 2 [-105]
    Under 2 [-105]

    SUNDAY, 11/22
    Match Time: 11:00am ET
    Nice PK and -0.5 [+110]
    Toulouse PK and +0.5 [-119]

    Nice +148
    Toulouse +239
    Draw +208

    Over 2 & 2.5 [+106]
    Under 2 & 2.5 [-117]

    Match Time: 11:00am ET
    St.Etienne PK and -0.5 [-111]
    Laurent PK and +0.5 [+103]

    St.Etienne +125
    Laurent +282
    Draw +217

    Over 2 & 2.5 [+104]
    Under 2 & 2.5 [-115]

    Match Time: 3:00pm ET
    Montpellier PK [+106]
    Lille PK [-115]

    Montpellier +200
    Lille +170
    Draw + 212

    Over 2 & 2.5 [+109]
    Under 2 & 2.5 [-120]
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  35. 11-20-09 06:45 PM #35
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    The GD Germans ain't got nothin' to do with it.

    GERMANY BUNDESLIGA

    SATURDAY, 11/21
    Match Time: 9:30am ET
    Wolfsburg -1 and -1.5 [+107]
    Nurnberg +1 and +1.5 [-116]

    Wolsburg -219
    Nurnberg [NOT AVAILABLE]
    Draw [NOT AVAILABLE]

    Over 3 [+104]
    Under 3 [-113]

    Match Time: 9:30am ET
    Stuttgart -0.5 and -1 [-119]
    Hertha BSCBerlin +0.5 and +1 [+110]

    Stuttgart -154
    Hertha BSCBerlin [NOT AVAILABLE]
    Draw [NOT AVAILABLE]

    Over 2.5 [+104]
    Under 2.5 [-113]

    Match Time: 9:30am ET
    FC Shalke -1 [-111]
    Hannover 96 +1 [+104]

    FC Shalke -197
    Hannover 96 [NOT AVAILABLE]
    Draw [NOT AVAILABLE]

    Over 2.5 [-108]
    Under 2.5 [+100]

    Match Time: 9:30am ET
    Koln +0.5 [-120]
    TSG Hoffenheim -0.5 [+111]

    Koln +269
    TSG Hoffenheim +111
    Draw + 257

    Over 2.5 [-104]
    Under 2.5 [-104]

    Match Time: 9:30am ET
    Frankfurt PK & -0.5 [-111]
    Borussia Mönchengladbach PK & +0.5 [+104]

    Frankfurt +120
    Borussia Mönchengladbach +259
    Draw +247

    Over 2.5 [-108]
    Under 2.5 [+100]

    Match Time: 9:30am ET
    Freiburg +0.5 [+102]
    Werder Bremen -0.5 [-108]

    Freiburg [NOT AVAILABLE]
    Werder Bremen -109
    Draw +252

    Over 2.5 & 3 [-118]
    Under 2.5 & 3 [+109]

    Match Time: 12:30pm ET
    Borussia Dortmund -0.5 and -1 [-114]
    FSV Mainz +0.5 and +1 [+106]

    Borussia Dortmund -148
    FSV Mainz [NOT AVAILABLE]
    Draw +300

    Over 2.5 [-114]
    Under 2.5 [+105]

    SUNDAY, 11/22
    Match Time: 9:30am ET
    Bayern Munchen -0.5 [-111]
    Bayer Leverkusen +0.5 [+104]

    Bayern Munchen -111
    Bayer Leverkusen [NOT AVAILABLE]
    Draw +271

    Over 2.5 & 3 [+106]
    Under 2.5 & 3 [-115]

    Match Time: 11:30am ET
    Hamburger -1 & -1.5 [+100]
    VFL Bochum +1 & +1.5 [+106]

    Hamburger -244
    VFL Bochum [NOT AVAILABLE]
    Draw [NOT AVAILABLE]

    Over 3 [+114]
    Under 3 [-123]
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