[silvap]

A couple of CL group futures i found interesting:

PSG to win group (2.03) - About even money on PSG to win the group here seems the most value offered. On a group that has Dinamo Kyev, Dinamo Zagreb and a weakened Porto after loosing Hulk to Zenit, PSG should be able to win the group somewhat confortably.

Zenit to win group (2.8) (0.66 units to win 1.2 units) - Though, even group here with Milan, Malaga, Zenit and Anderlecht. Zenit could take advantage of their homecourt as the long travel to Russia and adverse weather conditions often trouble visiting teams. With Milan struggling early in the season, there's value for Zenit to sneak into the top of the group.

Shakhtar Donetsk to NOT advance from group stage (2 units to win 1 at 1.495) - All due respect to them, as they do have a good squad and will also try to take the same kind of advantage on their homecourt, but Juventus and Chelsea are both contenders to win the competition (not necessarily top contenders, but having a fighting chance) and look for both of them to advance here.

Juventus to win the group (0.75 units to win 1 at 2.36) - Juventus not inferior to Chelsea, feel like it's a toss up between these two teams to take first place in the group, so taking the one with the better price.

Bayern Munich to win group (2.2 units to win 1) - Bayern Munich is simply one of the top teams in Europe and very much a contender to win the Champions League, having improved their team from last season. With a group that has Valencia, Lille and BATE Borisov, they realy have to drop the ball to not take top place in the group.

[Nova99]

Those PSG odds are a steal, at least on paper. Juve is tough since it could come down to both them and Chelsea playing B squads on the last matchday if they already qualified.

But these bets are so scary considering what happened to Manu last season.

[silvap]

Yeah, obviously weird things can happen as they did to Man Utd last year not going through the group phase, i am not saying these are locks, just spots where i believe there is value.

[silvap]

A couple of CL group futures i found interesting:

PSG to win group (2.03) - About even money on PSG to win the group here seems the most value offered. On a group that has Dinamo Kyev, Dinamo Zagreb and a weakened Porto after loosing Hulk to Zenit, PSG should be able to win the group somewhat confortably.

Zenit to win group (2.8) (0.66 units to win 1.2 units) - Though, even group here with Milan, Malaga, Zenit and Anderlecht. Zenit could take advantage of their homecourt as the long travel to Russia and adverse weather conditions often trouble visiting teams. With Milan struggling early in the season, there's value for Zenit to sneak into the top of the group.

Shakhtar Donetsk to NOT advance from group stage (2 units to win 1 at 1.495) - All due respect to them, as they do have a good squad and will also try to take the same kind of advantage on their homecourt, but Juventus and Chelsea are both contenders to win the competition (not necessarily top contenders, but having a fighting chance) and look for both of them to advance here.

Juventus to win the group (0.75 units to win 1 at 2.36) - Juventus not inferior to Chelsea, feel like it's a toss up between these two teams to take first place in the group, so taking the one with the better price.

Bayern Munich to win group (2.2 units to win 1) - Bayern Munich is simply one of the top teams in Europe and very much a contender to win the Champions League, having improved their team from last season. With a group that has Valencia, Lille and BATE Borisov, they realy have to drop the ball to not take top place in the group.

Very decent first round for the futures, except for Zenit getting crushed.

PSG with a good home win with plenty of goals, which could also help on an eventual tie-break.

Bayern Munich winning against their toughest opponent on the group

Juventus not loosing what should be their toughest match in the group - away at Chelsea

Shakthar winning their match, but it was in theory their easiest match in all group play, at home against certain last place Nordsjaelland

[Vaughany]

Wouldnt be surprised if Shakhtar scrape through