1. 05-17-21 05:56 AM #1
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    Head to Head Picks - COTA

    ENTRIES MUST BE IN BY 10.35am ET SUNDAY, BEFORE QUALIFYING STARTS



    Echopark Texas Grand Prix
    Circuit of the Americas
    2:30pm/et, Sunday, May 23
    (Stage: 15/32/68 = 231 miles)
    TV: FS1
    Radio: PRN, SiriusXM
    Practice: 10:05-10:55am/et, Saturday, May 22
    Qualifying: 10:35am/et, Sunday, May 23




    Entry

    100 points to enter, or 50 points for 50% if you prefer.

    Any points left over from partial entries will jackpot to start the following race's pool.


    What to do

    1) Transfer your entry points to this post only.

    2) Pick who will win these 5 head to head matchups and select the race winner


    Kevin Harvick v Brad Keselowski
    Daniel Suarez v AJ Allmendinger
    Christopher Bell v Denny Hamlin
    Austin Cindric v Chris Beuscher
    Chase Elliott v Joey Logano

    Race Winner:


    3) Post your picks in this thread.

    First Tie-breaker: Finish position of winner pick
    Second Tie-Breaker: Who posted their picks first


    Prizes

    First: 70% of points pool + 200 Point Freeplay
    Second: 30% of points pool
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  2. 05-17-21 07:13 AM #2
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    Harvick
    Dinger
    Denny
    Cindric
    Elliott

    Winner: Elliott
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  3. 05-17-21 09:41 AM #3
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    Harvick
    Allmendinger
    Hamlin
    Cindric
    Elliott

    Winner: Elliott
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  4. 05-18-21 05:21 PM #4
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    Kevin Harvick
    A.J. Allmendinger
    Denny Hamlin
    Chris Beuscher
    Chase Elliott

    Winner Chase Elliott
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  5. 05-18-21 07:03 PM #5
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    Harvick
    D Suar
    Hamlin
    A C
    J Lo


    Winner- Larson
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  6. 05-19-21 11:06 AM #6
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    1) Harvick
    2) Suarez
    3) Hamlin
    4) Buescher
    5) Elliot

    Winner = Truex
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  7. 05-19-21 02:50 PM #7
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    Kevin Harvick v Brad Keselowski
    Daniel Suarez v AJ Allmendinger
    Christopher Bell v Denny Hamlin
    Austin Cindric v Chris Buescher
    Chase Elliott v Joey Logano

    Race Winner: Chase Elliott
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  8. 05-19-21 03:20 PM #8
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    Kevin Harvick v Brad Keselowski
    Daniel Suarez v AJ Allmendinger
     Christopher Bell v Denny Hamlin
    Austin Cindric v Chris Beuscher
    Chase Elliott v Joey Logano

    Race Winner: Truex
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  9. 05-19-21 09:28 PM #9
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    1) Harvick
    2) Suarez
    3) Hamlin
    4) Buescher
    5) Elliot

    Winner = Elliot
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  10. 05-20-21 09:28 PM #10
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    Brad Keselowski
    AJ Allmendinger
    Denny Hamlin
    Austin Cindric
    Chase Elliott

    Race Winner:Hamlin
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  11. 05-21-21 07:20 AM #11
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    Kevin Harvick v Brad Keselowski
    Daniel Suarez v AJ Allmendinger
    Christopher Bell v Denny Hamlin
    Austin Cindric v Chris Beuscher
    Chase Elliott v Joey Logano

    Race Winner: Chase Elliott
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  12. 05-21-21 12:43 PM #12
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    Kevin Harvick
    Suarez
    Denny Hamlin
    Austin Cindric
    Chase Elliott

    Race Winner: Kyle Busch
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  13. 05-23-21 12:36 AM #13
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    Kevin Harvick
    AJ Allmendinger
    Denny Hamlin
    Austin Cindric
    Chase Elliott

    Race Winner: Martin Truex Jr.
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  14. 05-23-21 08:04 AM #14
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    Bad Brad
    Dinger
    Hamlin
    Cindric
    Logano

    Winner: William Byron
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  15. 05-23-21 10:56 AM #15
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    Keselowski
    Allmendinger
    Bell
    Beuscher
    Elliott

    Winner Chase Elliott
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  16. 05-23-21 11:43 AM #16
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    keselowski
    allmendinger
    hamlin
    beuscher
    elliott

    winner elliott
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  17. 05-23-21 12:16 PM #17
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    Harvick
    Dinger
    Bell
    Cindric
    Logano

    Winner - Logano
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  18. 05-23-21 12:18 PM #18
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    My apologies Opti, I just read the notes highlighted in red. Disregard my entry.
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  19. 05-23-21 01:06 PM #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverine88 View Post
    My apologies Opti, I just read the notes highlighted in red. Disregard my entry.
    Shit, same here with notes. Was waiting for qualifying before even looked at the matchups
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  20. 05-23-21 01:21 PM #20
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    Kevin Harvick v Brad Keselowski
    Daniel Suarez v AJ Allmendinger
     Christopher Bell v Denny Hamlin
    Austin Cindric v Chris Beuscher
    Chase Elliott v Joey Logano

    Race Winner:Kevin Harvick
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  21. 05-23-21 03:06 PM #21
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    Sorry guys, I should have PMed everyone about the qualifying time.

    Looks like a bunch of you missed it.

    Let me think about how to handle this for the leaderboard.

    Might void this week from segment season tally...
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  22. 05-23-21 04:17 PM #22
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    It's in bright red letters at the top of the page. Gotta play by the rules.
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  23. 05-24-21 07:02 AM #23
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    1150 points in the race pool.

    First: 805 points and 200 freeplay
    Second: 345 points

    Late entries have been refunded.

    I added the qualifying cutoff for this race thinking that start position would make so much difference on a road course and was too close to race time this week. Doubtful I will do that again unless a similar situation arises.




    Kevin Harvick v Brad Keselowski
    Daniel Suarez v AJ Allmendinger
    Christopher Bell v Denny Hamlin
    Austin Cindric v Chris Beuscher
    Chase Elliott v Joey Logano

    Race Winner: Chase Elliott


    CarolinaDaze 4 + Elliott + Posted First
    yisman 4 + Elliott
    Noles1992 4 + Hamlin
    rob 4 + Truex
    jrgum3 3
    Roger T. Bannon 3
    Unlearn 3
    bigdaddyjames 3
    Optional 3
    5mike5 3
    brock 3
    Daniel Espinosa 2
    Zlaniner 1



    Segment Standings

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  24. 05-24-21 07:38 PM #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Sorry guys, I should have PMed everyone about the qualifying time.

    Looks like a bunch of you missed it.

    Let me think about how to handle this for the leaderboard.

    Might void this week from segment season tally...
    Just my two cents but I always go by the rules. The saying where I come from is if you snooze you lose.

    So I'm good with what ever you rule.

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  25. 05-31-21 02:36 AM #25
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    why do you change the rules after 10 races have been run. I do not even look at this thread for the matchups till about a hour before the start of the race when it is said in the rules of the contest you have till the green flag to get your plays in
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  26. 05-31-21 05:49 PM #26
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    race cost me 800 bet points and a 200 free play because the rules were changed without notice from what we have been using for over 5 years.

    I never look at the matchups until between 2 hour before race starts to 30 minutes before race starts. I never win as the tiebreaker is the earliest poster and I have no problem with this as have never complained, but when you change the rules we have been using for over 5 years and no one is informed is wrong.

    I was driving to the beach for a week long vacation and pulled over for gas and posted my plays at 11:43 am and did not even read the message about have to be in before race qualifying starts.

    I will not be playing in segment 2 or the playoffs and have always played in this contest and supported the nascar contests. best of luck to everyone in the last 2 segments. by the way did we have our plays before qualifing for the charlotte race or was like all the other races since this contest started and you had to post before the green flag dropped.

    I am still in the season long contest as paid 600 to be in it, but in stead of having 27 points and 2 behind leader, I have 22 points and 7 behind just because the contest rules were changed with notifying anyone.
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  27. 05-31-21 06:26 PM #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by luvtogamble View Post
    why do you change the rules after 10 races have been run. I do not even look at this thread for the matchups till about a hour before the start of the race when it is said in the rules of the contest you have till the green flag to get your plays in
    Because qualifying was not until the morning of the race, and was very important to making picks on the road course.

    So I was thinking it would be best to cut off before quali started so as not to force everyone to wait until a couple of hours pre race to enter.

    I am sorry that I did not think to PM everyone. At the time I thought the red line at top would be enough. If I had a do-over, I would PM.

    If it did say in the rules you had until green flag to enter (as well as the red line), I would just accept all entries btw. But it doesn't. :\
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  28. 06-01-21 04:02 AM #28
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    So, getting locked out of the this race cost me 2nd place in the segment and more likely a tie for 1st and a good chunk of points! Can we at least compromise a little and get the COTA points removed from the season points totals?
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  29. 06-01-21 09:44 AM #29
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    LOL. You can't remove the COTA points. It was a race and we got our picks in.
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  30. 06-01-21 08:36 PM #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by rickie65 View Post
    So, getting locked out of the this race cost me 2nd place in the segment and more likely a tie for 1st and a good chunk of points! Can we at least compromise a little and get the COTA points removed from the season points totals?
    That doesn't sound like a bad idea.
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  31. 06-01-21 11:51 PM #31
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    When you have an entire week to get in your picks and you can't get them in, it is your problem. Not everyone else's.
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  32. 06-02-21 12:37 AM #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger T. Bannon View Post
    When you have an entire week to get in your picks and you can't get them in, it is your problem. Not everyone else's.
    Well, it's kind of a friendly game with pretty much the same people year after year. And 25% of normal entrants missed the change, so there was obviously a genuine communication problem.

    I'll decide for sure before we update scores after Sonoma but am thinking Ricky's idea for just the season leaderboard sounds fair.
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  33. 06-02-21 09:23 AM #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Well, it's kind of a friendly game with pretty much the same people year after year. And 25% of normal entrants missed the change, so there was obviously a genuine communication problem.

    I'll decide for sure before we update scores after Sonoma but am thinking Ricky's idea for just the season leaderboard sounds fair.
    LOL. Yes, more friendly for some than others. Just give them back their points. That is fair.

    If Wolverine wants to stay in with his 2 that is fair since he posted.
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  34. 06-02-21 09:46 AM #34
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    Otherwise, just give them all 3 free points and lets move on. That is probably what they would have gotten. You can give them a layup.
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  35. 06-02-21 10:36 AM #35
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    Another fair option is to allow everybody in the race to drop their lowest score. We should all get one do-over as well.
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