[cincinnatikid513]

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Workday Charity Open - 7/9/2020 7:00 AM (EST)
Justin Thomas +1110
Jon Rahm +1310
Brooks Koepka +1360
Patrick Cantlay +1410
Hideki Matsuyama +1610
Xander Schauffele +1800
Justin Rose +2000
Rickie Fowler +2200
Viktor Hovland +2200
Patrick Reed +2500
Collin Morikawa +2500
Matt Kuchar +3300
Joaquin Niemann +3300
Sungjae Im +3500
Marc Leishman +3800
Matthew Fitzpatrick +4000
Jordan Spieth +4000
Adam Hadwin +4000
Gary Woodland +4000
Billy Horschel +5000
Bubba Watson +5500
Matthew Wolff +5500
Scottie Scheffler +6000
Byeong Hun An +6600
Phil Mickelson +6600
Kevin Streelman +6600
Jason Day +6600
Cameron Champ +6600
Joel Dahmen +7000
Louis Oosthuizen +7000
Max Homa +8000
Harold Varner III +8000
Corey Conners +8000
Jason Kokrak +8500
Maverick McNealy +8500
Shane Lowry +8500
Ryan Armour +9000
Brandt Snedeker +9000
Chris Kirk +10000
Cameron Tringale +10000
Patrick Rodgers +10000
Matt Wallace +10000
Mark Hubbard +10000
Ian Poulter +10000
Emiliano Grillo +10000
Rory Sabbatini +10000
Russell Henley +10000
Scott Stallings +10000
Kyle Stanley +10000
Ryan Palmer +10000
Sam Burns +12500
Si Woo Kim +12500
Sepp Straka +12500
Troy Merritt +12500
Zach Johnson +12500
J.B. Holmes +12500
Jhonattan Vegas +12500
Jim Furyk +12500
Keegan Bradley +12500
Lanto Griffin +12500
Bud Cauley +12500
Brendan Steele +12500
Brian Stuard +12500
Brice Garnett +12500
Andrew Landry +15000
Charles Howell III +15000
Mackenzie Hughes +15000
Richy Werenski +15000
Michael Thompson +15000
Nick Taylor +15000
Jason Dufner +15000
Henrik Norlander +15000
Chez Reavie +15000
Vaughn Taylor +15000
Luke List +15000
Dylan Frittelli +17500
Tom Hoge +17500
Pat Perez +17500
Adam Long +20000
Sebastian Munoz +20000
Russell Knox +20000
Graeme McDowell +20000
Harry Higgs +20000
Hudson Swafford +20000
Joseph Bramlett +20000
Matthew NeSmith +20000
Charley Hoffman +20000
Brandon ** +20000
Charl Schwartzel +22500
Aaron Wise +22500
Adam Schenk +25000
Chris Stroud +25000
Patton Kizzire +25000
Denny McCarthy +25000
Danny Lee +25000
Sam Ryder +25000
Matt Jones +25000
Sung Kang +25000
Seung-Yul Noh +25000
Steve Stricker +25000
Talor Gooch +25000
Andrew Putnam +25000
Nate Lashley +25000
Carlos Ortiz +25000
Chesson Hadley +27500
J.J. Spaun +30000
Jonathan Byrd +30000
Jimmy Walker +30000
Nick Watney +30000
Keith Mitchell +30000
Cameron Davis +30000
Zac Blair +35000
Stewart Cink +35000
Kyoung-Hoon Lee +35000
Luke Donald +35000
James Hahn +35000
Fabian Gomez +35000
C.T. Pan +35000
Austin Cook +35000
Bronson Burgoon +35000
Beau Hossler +40000
Aaron Baddeley +40000
Chase Koepka +40000
Grayson Murray +40000
Jamie Lovemark +40000
Lucas Bjerregaard +40000
Scott Harrington +40000
Ted Potter, Jr. +50000
Xinjun Zhang +50000
Kevin Tway +50000
Mark Anderson +50000
Rob Oppenheim +50000
Robby Shelton +50000
Robert Streb +50000
Peter Malnati +50000
Hank Lebioda +50000
Jim Herman +50000
Cameron Percy +50000
Bo Hoag +50000
Brian Gay +50000
D.J. Trahan +55000
Tim Wilkinson +55000
David Hearn +60000
Roger Sloan +60000
Sebastian Cappelen +65000
Jerry Kelly +75000
K.J. Choi +75000
Davis Love III +100000
Michael Kim +100000
Martin Trainer +100000
Matt Every +100000
Kevin Stadler +100000
Bo Van Pelt +100000
Vijay Singh +100000



koepka or cantlay looks good

[KVB]

I can't believe I'm gonna say it.

Rickie Fowler

I think Justin Rose, Collin Morikawa, and Gary Woodland are early looks. I won't buy for a day or two, let's see who drops out first.

[Unrivaled]

Justin Thomas will win. Xander and Cantlay have outside chance.

Think I will make a big bet on JT, seems like a perfect course for him.

[jjgold]

Stop
The guy hasn’t been relevant in a very long time too many good golfers now there’s 100 Ricky Fowler’s

I can't believe I'm gonna say it.

Rickie Fowler

I think Justin Rose, Collin Morikawa, and Gary Woodland are early looks. I won't buy for a day or two, let's see who drops out first.

[Unrivaled]

I can't believe I'm gonna say it.

Rickie Fowler

I think Justin Rose, Collin Morikawa, and Gary Woodland are early looks. I won't buy for a day or two, let's see who drops out first.

Morikawa has been declining the last few weeks, I'd need 50 to 1 odds to consider it. Same thing with Rickie.

The other 2 are worth a look for sure, still think this is the tournament JT wins.

[cincinnatikid513]

Morikawa has been declining the last few weeks, I'd need 50 to 1 odds to consider it. Same thing with Rickie.

The other 2 are worth a look for sure, still think this is the tournament JT wins.

declining guy made 23 cuts in a row or was it 24 he was due for a bad week morikawa is solid

[KVB]

Stop
The guy hasn’t been relevant in a very long time too many good golfers now there’s 100 Ricky Fowler’s

Get yourself a hat, Gold...

[jjgold]

KVB do you know what you’re doing?

[navyblue81]

Favorite I’ll go with Schauffele.
Long shot, give me Brendan Steele at 125-1.

[Unrivaled]

declining guy made 23 cuts in a row or was it 24 he was due for a bad week morikawa is solid

He is probably the worst putter in the field and his ball striking has fallen apart the last 2 tourneys.

I agree if he finds his ball striking again he can contend but seems to be in a slump.

[Unrivaled]

Favorite I’ll go with Schauffele.
Long shot, give me Brendan Steele at 125-1.

Schauffele fits this court well I think. I'll pass on Steele, don't trust him around the water.

[ChiLLx]

The real event is next week when Tiger shows up most likely

[veriableodds]

[Skidcom]

Hovland seems ready

[veriableodds]

Good to see davis love the 3rd in. him and fred couples had a few battles

[RudyRuetigger]

Good to see davis love the 3rd in. him and fred couples had a few battles

Davis love usually tries to play

Guess he couldn't get his son in this one??

[RudyRuetigger]

How long is dechambeau off?

Hopefully only this week

Must see tv

[MickeyMan]

Streelman maybe worth a look for a longer shot

[Unrivaled]

How long is dechambeau off?

Hopefully only this week

Must see tv

You know he will be in contention next week haha. Par 5 scoring a key stat on this course as well as sand saves and he is great at both.

[KVB]

KVB do you know what you’re doing?

When it's all said and done Gold, a bettor may only be as good as his last bet. My last bets won.

I've been winning weekly Gold, all posted, and have done a pretty good job of constructing the Sunday leaderboard in this 2019-2020 season. If only you could see my PGA futures spreadsheet, color coded and all.

lol.

If you've followed along in just one thread, even over the span of years for repeated examples, you'd know I have taught some PGA by example and you'd know the answer to your post.

There have been some moments because it's not what they bring, it's how they bring it...

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[KVB]

Hovland seems ready

He sure has been priming. He was one of my picks last week. Often I pick golfers in pairs with the intent to get one them high on the leaderboard come Sunday.

I have Rose and Hovland as one of those pairs.

[Bcatswin]

Brooks
Jordan
Kuchar

[KVB]

For those who are breaking down golfers and the course there are a few things to know that I've uncovered in my office.

This course is going to be used for two straight weeks for the PGA Tour, which may be the first time there are official PGA tour events on the same course back to back. This week’s tournament is probably just for this year, while next week’s Memorial Tournament is the regular event.

Because of this they are making some changes to the course for this week. The 8^th, 11^th, and 15^th holes have all been extended for this week. The rough this week will be a little shorter than next week’s Memorial and the greens are set to be slower as well.

The Memorial traditionally has a tournament stimpmeter that went up to 13 feet but to accommodate the PGA pin position desires over the two week stretch it will be more like 11 feet this week.

To mix it up, the PGA is looking for 8 distinct pin positions on each hole over the two weeks. For some positions, the greens have to be slower so this week there will be “creative” pin positions, ones the players haven’t seen before, and next week for the Memorial there will be “traditional” pin positions.

The slower green in the first week also helps to preserve the greens over the two week stint but it sounds like the bigger reason is for the wild pin positions this week. There are some undulations in those greens so it will be interesting to see this week’s pin positions.

[jjgold]

For those who are breaking down golfers and the course there are a few things to know that I've uncovered in my office.

This course is going to be used for two straight weeks for the PGA Tour, which may be the first time there are official PGA tour events on the same course back to back. This week’s tournament is probably just for this year, while next week’s Memorial Tournament is the regular event.

Because of this they are making some changes to the course for this week. The 8^th, 11^th, and 15^th holes have all been extended for this week. The rough this week will be a little shorter than next week’s Memorial and the greens are set to be slower as well.

The Memorial traditionally has a tournament stimpmeter that went up to 13 feet but to accommodate the PGA pin position desires over the two week stretch it will be more like 11 feet this week.

To mix it up, the PGA is looking for 8 distinct pin positions on each hole over the two weeks. For some positions, the greens have to be slower so this week there will be “creative” pin positions, ones the players haven’t seen before, and next week for the Memorial there will be “traditional” pin positions.

The slower green in the first week also helps to preserve the greens over the two week stint but it sounds like the bigger reason is for the wild pin positions this week. There are some undulations in those greens so it will be interesting to see this week’s pin positions.

This guy is a pro

[Bcatswin]

For those who are breaking down golfers and the course there are a few things to know that I've uncovered in my office.

This course is going to be used for two straight weeks for the PGA Tour, which may be the first time there are official PGA tour events on the same course back to back. This week’s tournament is probably just for this year, while next week’s Memorial Tournament is the regular event.

Because of this they are making some changes to the course for this week. The 8^th, 11^th, and 15^th holes have all been extended for this week. The rough this week will be a little shorter than next week’s Memorial and the greens are set to be slower as well.

The Memorial traditionally has a tournament stimpmeter that went up to 13 feet but to accommodate the PGA pin position desires over the two week stretch it will be more like 11 feet this week.

To mix it up, the PGA is looking for 8 distinct pin positions on each hole over the two weeks. For some positions, the greens have to be slower so this week there will be “creative” pin positions, ones the players haven’t seen before, and next week for the Memorial there will be “traditional” pin positions.

The slower green in the first week also helps to preserve the greens over the two week stint but it sounds like the bigger reason is for the wild pin positions this week. There are some undulations in those greens so it will be interesting to see this week’s pin positions.

Very nice input KVB

[KVB]

To expand on that putting green info there's some analysis from my desk...

So I set ratings for each golfer based on skills, strokes gained, etc and where they are relative to the field and even normalized for the courses when possible.

Patrick Cantlay stands out when it comes to putting and strokes gained not only on the season but also when I apply a recency bias, which in this case is since the return from the shutdown, he continues to stand out, along with Koepka and Woodland.

Cantlay loves this course and won the Memorial last year. He could be a good candidate for a top 5, 10 or even 20 finish.

[CHOICE]

Outright Card:

Gary Woodland 55-1
Matthew Fitzpatrick 60-1
Joel Dahmen 90-1
Adam Long 200-1
Sung Kang 275-1
Keith Mitchell 350-1

Hoping Schauffeles odds drop 18-1 is not ideal. Value on Patrick Reed. I can get him 35-1. Guy wins tournaments and shouldn’t be priced 35-1.

[Unrivaled]

To expand on that putting green info there's some analysis from my desk...

So I set ratings for each golfer based on skills, strokes gained, etc and where they are relative to the field and even normalized for the courses when possible.

Patrick Cantlay stands out when it comes to putting and strokes gained not only on the season but also when I apply a recency bias, which in this case is since the return from the shutdown, he continues to stand out, along with Koepka and Woodland.

Cantlay loves this course and won the Memorial last year. He could be a good candidate for a top 5, 10 or even 20 finish.

Cantley is my #2 pick this week.

[nyplayer33]

David duval

[nyplayer33]

Guys who wont win matt kuchar, day, bubba, billy horschel, hideki...Wont win again. Xander has a solid chance and matt wolfe

[cincinnatikid513]

Guys who wont win matt kuchar, day, bubba, billy horschel, hideki...Wont win again. Xander has a solid chance and matt wolfe

my book has wolfe nake the cut -145 yes seems pretty low odds

[cincinnatikid513]

got some nice props my book golf tourny any plays u see that are good


playoff yes +300
playoff no -430

hole in one yes +110
hole in one no -135

winning region
usa -210
europe +400
rest of world +350

top finisher group
asia
matsyuama +105
im +260
an +430
woo kim +800
sung kang +1200

group australia

leishman +120
day +210
matt jones +630
cameron davis +660
baddeley +1000

group contentinal europe

rahm -105
hovland +180
sabbatini +720
straka +1100
norlander +1300

group usa 1

thomas +210
cantalay +270
koepka +320
xander +400
fowler +680

group usa 2

morikawa +290
reed +270
kuchar +340
spieth +360
woodland +430

group

gb and ireland

rose +125
fitzpatrick +280
poulter +540
lowry +590
wallace +660

[Unrivaled]

got some nice props my book golf tourny any plays u see that are good


playoff yes +300
playoff no -430

hole in one yes +110
hole in one no -135

winning region
usa -210
europe +400
rest of world +350

top finisher group
asia
matsyuama +105
im +260
an +430
woo kim +800
sung kang +1200

group australia

leishman +120
day +210
matt jones +630
cameron davis +660
baddeley +1000

group contentinal europe

rahm -105
hovland +180
sabbatini +720
straka +1100
norlander +1300

group usa 1

thomas +210
cantalay +270
koepka +320
xander +400
fowler +680

group usa 2

morikawa +290
reed +270
kuchar +340
spieth +360
woodland +430

group

gb and ireland

rose +125
fitzpatrick +280
poulter +540
lowry +590
wallace +660

Group 1 JT, outright winner JT.

[cincinnatikid513]

probably 2 bad bets here, yes for sure 2 bad bets here but u never know

WORKDAY CHARITY OPEN - GROUP CONTINENTAL EUROPE

rahm -105
hovland +180
rory sab +720
straka +1100
norlander +1300


taking both straka and norlander

160 straka to win 1760
140 norlander to win 1820

both players coming off good results last weeks tourny t8 t12

rahm last 2 starts not impressive only find 1 time playing this course few years back missed cut
hovland has played 4 weeks in a row hopefully fatigue factor
rory sab -ehh if he beats me he beats me

straka and norlander let's go

[lonegambler23]

Matsu just jumped from 2500 to 1400