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    Washington State Could Be First In West To Legalize In 2020 🚩

    Washington state could be first in west to legalize in 2020

    by Jill R. Dorson
    February 10, 2020


    If you take Nevada out of the mix, the West has been slower than the East, Midwest or South to embrace legal sports betting since the Supreme Court struck down the Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act in May 2018. In fact, of the seven Western states, only Nevada and Oregon currently have legal sports betting — and Oregon didn’t need to pass a law to do it. But in the last week or two, there’s been plenty of action on sports betting around the West. With the exception of Alaska and Idaho, where it’s been a non-issue, there’s been movement all across.

    In particular, Washington State lawmakers appear committed to moving a pair of tribal-only sports betting bills forward. The House Appropriations Committee on Saturday heard testimony for and against a tribal-only bill. The committee must send the bill, HB 2638 to the House floor by the end of Tuesday in order for it to remain in play this session.

    The bill was among 44 that had public hearings in the Appropriations Committee Saturday morning, and tribal interests spoke in uniformly favor of the bill, arguing that it would help keep sports betting revenue in Washington State, that it’s not a widespread expansion of gaming, and that it would help curb the possibility of problem gaming because the bill does not allow for state-wide mobile betting.

    Tribes: Keep revenue in Washington State

    “Passing this bill will keep sports betting revenue in Washington State, and that is vastly different than other bills you’ve heard,” testified Kevin Zenishek, executive director of casino operations for the Northern Quest Casino, which is owned and run by the Kalispel tribe. “It will help the tribes to continue to to offer vital services and jobs.”
    Said Ryan Ramirez, the CEO of Port Madison Enterprises: “Some out there hope to delay this bill, but they are from out of state. This bill will not generate $50 million in revenue across the state … the fiscal analysis says $3 million.”
    Both were referring to commercial gaming bills that are stalled in both chambers, but backed by Maverick Gaming, which owns 19 card rooms in the state, and is pushing for a more inclusive law. Maverick owner Eric Persson brought his young son to the hearing to announce a new deal the company struck with the local Teamsters Union, and on his own tried to poke fun at the idea that he is from out of state — Persson is from Washington, but also has a home in Nevada — and offered up that his card rooms are smoke-free places to gamble.
    “It’s fun to hear that I am an out-of-state bogeyman,” Persson said.

    Last week, the Shoalwater Bay Tribe, of which Persson is a member, distanced itself from him, saying that it backs the tribal-only bills. On Saturday, another Maverick employee, Vicki Christophersen also testified about the advantage of online sports betting and the speed with which the tribal bills are working their way through the legislature.
    “This bill does nothing to eliminate the illicit market,” Christophersen said of HB 2638. “This bill is seeking to move really quickly without enough thought. This is an attempt to rush through an issue without a level playing field.”

    Senate committee sends bill to floor

    Neither of the bills Maverick is backing have moved out of their respective committees.

    The hearing echoed testimony heard on the Senate earlier last week and the previous week. But on Thursday, the Senate Labor and Commerce Committee voted the Senate version of the bill, SB 6394 out of committee and onto the Senate floor. According to the Seattle Times, Senate leaders will allow the House to take the lead on this issue, and won’t take it up on the floor until the House approves its bill. But first, the Appropriations Committee must vote HB 2638 out of committee before Tuesday’s legislative deadline. As for late Sunday, the bill was not the agenda for either Monday or Tuesday’s Appropriations Committee meetings.

    “I feel like there is a strong pathway for us to get it to the governor this year,’’ Senator Rebecca Saldaña, the lead bill sponsor, told the Seattle Times after the vote. “That’s what I’m working on.’

    “Our intent was to have true companion bills all the way through. I think that ours is a mirror of theirs. And if it is a mirror, and we don’t do any more mucking around of their version, then it can go straight to the governor.’’
    Washington’s legislative session ends on March 13.

    Elsewhere around the West

    Elsewhere around the West, legal sports betting is also being bandied about. Here’s a look:

    Arizona: Earlier this week, Senator Sonny Borelli filed SB 1525, a tribal sports betting bill that largely resembles the bill he filed last year. It calls for tribal sports betting with a twist — allowing tribes to contract with local bars and private clubs to offer sports betting via kiosk, in addition legalizing on-reservation sports betting. The bill doesn’t really fit with the Indian Gaming Regulatory Act in that it would allow tribal sports betting on non-tribal lands, which is outside the bounds of IGRA, so that’s a hurdle Borelli and the tribes would have to overcome. SB 1525 would establish a revenue agreement (as opposed to tax, as tribes are sovereign nations), sending certain funds from the Tribes to the state, and includes a college carveout. Put that together with the IGRA issue, and it’s unlikely that stakeholders will embrace the bill. According to a source, there is a broader, more inclusive bill that would also allow for commercial sports betting, both retail and mobile, in the pipeline.

    California: There’s not much new in the Golden State, but tribal interests should be out pounding the pavement to get the approximately 1 million signatures they’ll need to get their sports betting initiative on the November ballot. To recap, the initiative would legalize retail sports betting only at tribal locations and horse racetracks. It does not allow for state-wide mobile sports betting. Both the state’s card rooms and professional sports venues were left out of the initiative. On the legislative side, ACA 16, which would also require voter approval, but is more inclusive, is still hanging around, but since a sports betting hearing was held in Sacramento in early January, no more action has been taken.


    Hawaii: There’s no action on sports betting per se in Hawaii, but last week, two bills — one each in the Senate and House — were filed that would create the Hawaii Lottery and Gaming Corporation to oversee gaming. Hawaii currently has no legal gaming, not even a lottery. Of note is that the bills, SB 2669 and HB 2667, specifically prohibit sports betting:

    (b) The Hawaii lottery and gaming corporation may:
    (1) Offer wagering on games of chance and games of skill, including lottery, poker, and casino games, to individuals over the age of eighteen years; provided that the corporation shall not offer wagering on any sporting event or sporting contest.

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    These states so silly

    Acting like it is a big deal if passed

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    NY needs to get it online

    Cuomo has his thumb up his ass. Must be getting kickbacks from the brick and mortar casinos.

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    florida ?

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    Wonder how smooth the tribes will run it

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    Too many Indian casinos, never happening.

    I lived there my whole life before NJ, they made online poker a felony.
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    I don’t understand why the Indians don’t want it oh wait I do their casinos up here are 99 percent slots and that’s it. We have a massive casino up here that is nothing but slot machines they will get rid of poker ect for more slots

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    It’s coming everywhere, I don’t really understand the delay in places. Dragging their feet here in Massachusetts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bostongambler View Post
    It’s coming everywhere, I don’t really understand the delay in places. Dragging their feet here in Massachusetts.



    If other states wouldn't have been so cowardly and would have stood up with New Jersey and the handful of other states who helped fight for legalization, they wouldn't all be late to the party and feasting off of someone else's hard work.

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    It’s absolutely hilarious to me they legalize a drug but act like sports betting is so terrible. I blame this all on the mafia

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    Quote Originally Posted by pilebuck13 View Post
    I don’t understand why the Indians don’t want it oh wait I do their casinos up here are 99 percent slots and that’s it. We have a massive casino up here that is nothing but slot machines they will get rid of poker ect for more slots
    I lived there 37 years, almost 3 in NJ/PA/NY tri state area. I was involved in state and local government.

    The Indians donate 10's of millions to politicians, to the point where, until it was repealed years later, online poker was the same class felony as Murder, Rape, Bank Robbery, etc.

    No one was ever prosecuted. I played regardless because that's a joke and how would they catch me.

    WA state will be one of the last, if ever, to legalize it. The people that spend money at these places are older, elderly and retired. They don't own a computer.

    In Spokane and around the state, they have buses and shuttles that travels dozens of miles to pick them up, and run shuttles 24/7 to come and go. No Joke.

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    lol theres nothing there, they should pass it

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    Quote Originally Posted by thechaoz View Post
    I lived there 37 years, almost 3 in NJ/PA/NY tri state area. I was involved in state and local government.

    The Indians donate 10's of millions to politicians, to the point where, until it was repealed years later, online poker was the same class felony as Murder, Rape, Bank Robbery, etc.

    No one was ever prosecuted. I played regardless because that's a joke and how would they catch me.

    WA state will be one of the last, if ever, to legalize it. The people that spend money at these places are older, elderly and retired. They don't own a computer.

    In Spokane and around the state, they have buses and shuttles that travels dozens of miles to pick them up, and run shuttles 24/7 to come and go. No Joke.
    Think I don’t know I live like 2 minutes away from tulalip casino

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    Quote Originally Posted by pilebuck13 View Post
    Think I don’t know I live like 2 minutes away from tulalip casino
    I'm not saying you don't, just commenting for the thread.

    I lived in Spokane, and I've heard they are putting another massive casino in airway heights, or already have.

    I can't stand the place so I have my friends and family visit here.

    Regardless, you understand the situation.

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    Yes natives run the state tell me why they are the only ones aloud to operate slot machines fuk them

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    Quote Originally Posted by pilebuck13 View Post
    Yes natives run the state tell me why they are the only ones aloud to operate slot machines fuk them


    Because remember gambling in general was once considered taboo across the nation, but the Indians were given the rights to offer it, and in return also given too much power in the process.

    Now states like Florida & others are handcuffed and struggling to find a way out of everything they've foolishly agreed to in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    Because remember gambling in general was once considered taboo across the nation, but the Indians were given the rights to offer it, and in return also given too much power in the process.

    Now states like Florida & others are handcuffed and struggling to find a way out of everything they've foolishly agreed to in the past.
    They have a stangelhold H man why the fuk should we pay taxes on gambling winnings bull shit your boy pounded Bradley -5 for like 36k and these mother fuker moved the line to -6 lol whatever

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    Quote Originally Posted by pilebuck13 View Post
    They have a stangelhold H man why the fuk should we pay taxes on gambling winnings bull shit your boy pounded Bradley -5 for like 36k and these mother fuker moved the line to -6 lol whatever



    I hear ya pb

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