[ki dice]

Anyone know if a mildly displaced avulsion fracture of the phalanx,if this required surgery or can it heal on its own Thank you

[ki dice]

I know it's a gambling forum,but if anyone had an injury similar to this or know of this if they can let me know I appreciate it

[ki dice]

Long story short I jammed my finger playing ball with my nephew,and went to the walkin and the X-ray determined this injury,but then was sent to a orthopedic hand specialist and he was a real prick

[astro61200]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2684218/

[ki dice]

Astro what's your opinion have surgery or not

[astro61200]

Astro what's your opinion have surgery or not

I don't know what a avulsion fracture or phalanx is.. so no clue.

[ki dice]

It's a small piece of bone attached to a tendon that's gets pulled away a little from the main bone

[CWD]

u need 2 ask kraken he will know

[ki dice]

Can anyone get kraken to chime in

[Scorpion]

Long story short I jammed my finger playing ball with my nephew,and went to the walkin and the X-ray determined this injury,but then was sent to a orthopedic hand specialist and he was a real prick

cant help u, all my doctors are young females, don't like old or male doctors

[Slipknot26]

I had it about 10 years ago on my right ankle , old baseball injury , caught up with me over the years .
Got to the point ,every step the tendon clashed with the bones detached , hurt bad .
I got where I couldn't walk, required surgery
So if a finger and you can deal with pain , I would say no.
But it'll get worse over time . The tendon will hit the bones since it's detached and can move , will hurt like hell if you use it a lot .
Hope that helps you

[ki dice]

How long for it to heal on its own,it's the phalanx in my thumb I'm in a splint for a week and still can't bend my thumb down.also it's still swollen thanks for everyone's input

[Slipknot26]

For mine , it didn't.
Since its detached from my ankle , it's was just out in the tendons , so every step , the tendon stretches , hit the bone fragments .
So seems yours in the same except your thumb .
So I'm not sure it will fully heal unless they take out the detaches bone.
They took out 7 tiny fragments in my ankle , little fragments where the tendon was stretching and hitting them .
Got a nice 4 inch gash where they took all of it out.
But back to you , if it's truly detached from the main bone , it's not going back into place , it can move and shift with any movement over time . It's like it is in space and nothing holding it.
So IMHO, I don't think it 100% heals , wish I could say it would .
But the fragmented detached bone is suppose to be with the main bone . It's not , so it'll continue to move since nothing is holding it.
At least , that's exactly what it did to me.
Good luck to you, hope it works out .

[milwaukee mike]

Anyone know if a mildly displaced avulsion fracture of the phalanx,if this required surgery or can it heal on its own Thank you

i had to even look up what a phalanx was

[Slipknot26]

Using an analogy to your condition
Go take a toothpick , break it into 2 pieces , so now it's 2 pieces not 1 , right ?
How do you get it back to 1piece ?
1 of 2 options . 1.Glue it or 2. just throw 1 piece away ?
This is a bone you're talking about . It can't just go back to 1 piece.
So option 2 is to throw it away like the 2nd piece of toothpick. So that is surgery to get rid of the broken bone ( toothpick ).
Hope that makes sense to you

[ki dice]

But it's pulled like a few centimeters away,it's not totally broken,it's mildly displaced.

[astro61200]

Using an analogy to your condition
Go take a toothpick , break it into 2 pieces , so now it's 2 pieces not 1 , right ?
How do you get it back to 1piece ?
1 of 2 options . 1.Glue it or 2. just throw 1 piece away ?
This is a bone you're talking about . It can't just go back to 1 piece.
So option 2 is to throw it away like the 2nd piece of toothpick. So that is surgery to get rid of the broken bone ( toothpick ).
Hope that makes sense to you

Bones heal, toothpicks don't... you're aware of this, right?

[ki dice]

Astro this guy is scaring the shit out of me not the responses I was looking for,against its mildly placed from the bone maybe 3 to 4 centimeters

[ki dice]

I feel these surgeons they want to make a quick buck on a quick surgery like this.this why I'm asking anyone's experience

[Slipknot26]

IDK..It's a few centimeters now , but if you use and you do daily , could get worse .
Did your Dr not tell you anything ?
I think over time since detached , it's cracked or it wouldn't be displaced, some over time it will either get worse or separate again since you use your thumb daily .
Go get a 2nd opinion , won't hurt.
I thought mine would go away too , it got worse , why ? Walking , another part of the body you use daily .
So it just got worse over time and moved the fragments even more .
Good luck to you man

[milwaukee mike]

I feel these surgeons they want to make a quick buck on a quick surgery like this.this why I'm asking anyone's experience

that makes sense... most people think doctors/politicians/charities/etc are out for the common good but most of them are out for themselves

[Slipknot26]

Bones heal, toothpicks don't... you're aware of this, right?

Sure do
I wasn't intending to scare him at all.
At first , the post he said Broke , now it's not broke , displaced , pulled away . 2 entirely different things .
I also know ones you use daily are harder to heal than ones you don't.
I gave my experience but then he said it wasn't broken, which wasn't what it first stated.
I also know personal experience mine was fine for 7 years , then came back out of nowhere. Why ? Over time the movement created the displaced bones to move because I used my ankle daily .
Dice , I don't want you to have surgery. It sucks
You asked , I gave my personal dealings with something similar.
It's not difficult to go to another Dr.
I went to 4 before surgery.
Again , good luck to you

[ki dice]

Slip I know you mean well, again I appreciate your input,I never said it broke.My first post reads mildly displaced avulsion fracture.Which I guess this means the fragments pulled away from the bone.So you had a same type of injury and you did not have surgery right away.

[Russian Rocket]

Astro this guy is scaring the shit out of me not the responses I was looking for,against its mildly placed from the bone maybe 3 to 4 centimeters

Huh? Do you know what a fkng centimeter looks like? 4 centimeters is over 1.5 inches long. The bone would be sticking out from underneath the skin if you have a fracture this big.

Did you mean to say millimeters? In any case, get a 2nd opinion about the surgery, if you are not 100% trusting this Doc.

gl!

[Slipknot26]

Oh yes , when it happened I was 18 . Slammed my ankle sliding into a base. Season over for me , it was bad . I wore a brace type deal for 2 months to try to keep held in place where it wouldn't move at all .
Roll along 7 years later , I'm 25 , right ankle starts hurting out of nowhere . Only when I push off my heel when walking . So thought that's weird , not constant but a specific pattern .
So it got worse , went to Dr , said over time , the fracture just eventually was made worse since I use daily . He said it constantly moves , so just finally gave way .
I didn't want surgery . Went to several more but during that time , it got worse . I could barely walk .
But everyone heals differently.
But 7 years later , I had surgery over something that I thought was over.
See how it does after you get done with the splint.
I pushed surgery out as long as I could . It's always , I mean always last alternative to anything for me .
Hopefully yours heals , may never pop back up and I truly hope that is how it goes for you .

[Courtesywipe]

Dude, only a pussy would worry about a broken finger. Jesus Christ

[Slipknot26]

I'll leave it at this as well Dice.
I didn't trust Dr's either , it's about money , the way I see it . Surgery , he gets way more than an appointment.
Had back surgery in 2014 , went well . After 4 weeks told Doc , I'm good to go back to work .
He said no your not , you think that because the pains gone , your body says yes , but you aren't ready . But me being a hard ass , push til he released me to work . His last comment when I'm leaving the office , " I'll see you again " . Im thinking you prick bastard .
I was over a project I had been over for 2 years , wanted to see it happen. I went back to work .Now I work on concrete and requires steel toes , sucks walking on it , period .
I made it 4 freaking hours , legs went numb , I knew it , I didn't listen to him .
I called him back , I was under the knife the following week over me thinking I know best , I know better than the Dr.. I didn't, it's their profession.
Morale of it , listen to them . It's not always about money , we put our lives in their hand on occasion.
So I gained more trust since I had a 2nd and he said it was going to happen . The problem is , I didn't. I learned my lesson and a 16 week one that would've been 8.
So get a 2nd opinion from another specialist but may want to take what they say . I was too stubborn to listen .

[ki dice]

Thanks again for your input and to the other post i was told in fact centimeters maybe it's 2 centimeters from the bone I guess

[Slipknot26]

No problem man
Best of luck to you , hopefully it heals 100%

[ki dice]

Any other advice on this type of injury,I still can't bend the thumb and feel the smooth part near the bottom of the thumb is that the feeling of the misplaced bone and will that reattach without surger.also how long for an injury like this heal.thanks

[unusialsusp5]

I feel these surgeons they want to make a quick buck on a quick surgery like this.this why I'm asking anyone's experience

they definitely regard you as a cash cow customer. if you don't have insurance don't do it. they will overcharge you for doing virtually nothing. remember the root canal scam all dentists foisted on everyone way back when. wasn't necessary at all. if they didn't get through med school they would be selling used cars. they love medicare and health insurance customers.

[ki dice]

Unusual do you think it will heal properly without surgery,it's a little pulled away from the main bone I can feel the smoothness.thanks

[unusialsusp5]

again, unless you have insurance just splint and tape it tight. it will heal.

[ki dice]

Ok it's been in a splint for 10 days and thanks for the response I appreciate it

[gauchojake]

Go to an ortho surgeon and get an opinion. Rinse and repeat until they all tell you the same thing, which is that you need surgery.