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    Scott matusow thoughts on Trayvon Martin and race and why vote republican

    A soup to nuts deconstruction of the lies and obfuscations by the media in the Trayvon Martin case. Along with verified fact based information


    Today even more new facts surrounding Trayvon Martin have been discovered thanks to the New Media doing the work the Institutional Lame Stream Legacy Media intentionally refuses to do. Simultaneously we discover how many lies and falsehoods are continuing. Just today they include:



        • Media lying about George Zimmerman’s weight
        • A new batch of lawyers for Mom and Dad
        • Revelations about Trayvon’s girlfriend refusing to cooperate with police from the beginning
        • Revelations about George Zimmerman’s prior 2005 arrest which the media falsified in their prior reporting.
        • Revelations about how Zimmerman was appointed as Neighborhood Watch Captain by the Home Owners Association request, and the black residents praise. Again falsely reported by the agenda-driven media.
        • Evidence of CNN intentional lying and bias by Piers Morgan.
        • and much more…



    In short. This is perhaps the biggest national racial event since Rodney King. It is also shaping up to be the biggest media driven false public story since Richard Jewell. It’s in the process of becoming a watershed event; And it’s almost entirely fake. It’s a tempest in a tea-cup.
    The whole thing is an institutionally media-generated racialist/socialist psychopolitical agitator’s dream come true.
    Today we will update and continue to outline and contrast the false narrative sold by the Legacy media types, TV, Print and Radio including: ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, FOX, CNN, PBS, Associated Press, Reuters Media, USA Today, New York Times and other like-minded affiliates.
    For the sake of these continuing posts we are going to focus entirely on Trayvon Martin and not the infinite various nuances and side stories spinning out of the false narrative. I apologize for the length, but accuracy matters and context is needed.

    SUMMARY of Content: In summary we now know that Trayvon Martin was not the innocent 17-year-old (junior year) High School kid portrayed by the media as: a football player, a volunteer mentor, a math loving student, and loving respectful child, who was serving a five day ten day suspension for tardiness. This was, and is, a complete fabrication. The truth is divergent in the extreme.
    But that picture of an innocent child was exactly what the media wanted to sell, because it fit their chosen narrative.
    The media even doctored photographs to make Trayvon look more child like.
    It is also what the professional race-baiting Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, New Black Panther party wanted to portray; and it should be mentioned at the time of this writing they are still bitterly clinging to it. But losing grip rapidly.

    Real photo Doctored By Media Photo
    When the truth is being presented, one does not have to work so hard to control, portray obfuscate and spin. The media have been working very hard because the media has not been presenting ‘the truth’.

    But now, against the shere weight of the truth-telling, research, and presentation of facts by the New Media, the Legacy media is beginning to backtrack. Their false construction is crumbling around them.
    However, we are not going to let them just skulk back into the shadows. They, the media, created this mess – and make no mistake, this is a huge mistake – and now they are going to be forced to own it. All of it.
    We will not allow the media to turn George Zimmerman into Richard Jewell. Not this time. This time we push back. Truth is on our side.
    False - The media initially reported that Trayvon was suspended from school for five days because he was tardy. That narrative soon changed to the more truthful ten days. However, they missed the reasoning and a little research revealed much more.
    Truth - We now know that Trayvon Martin was suspended from school THREE times in this school year. We do not know the details of the first suspension. But Trayvon Martin was suspended the second time from school in October 2011 for an incident in which he was found in possession of stolen women’s jewelry and a screwdriver that a schools security staffer described as a “burglary tool,” The Miami Herald has learned.
    According to the report, on Oct. 21 staffers monitoring a security camera at Dr. Michael M. Krop Senior High School spotted Trayvon and two other students writing “W.T.F.,” an acronym for “What the f—,” on a hallway locker, according to schools police. The security employee, who knew Trayvon, confronted the teen and looked through his bag for the graffiti marker.
    Trayvon’s backpack contained 12 pieces of jewelry, in addition to a watch and a large flathead screwdriver, according to the report, which described the screwdriver as a burglary tool.
    “Martin was suspended, warned and dismissed for the graffiti,” according to the report prepared by Miami-Dade Schools Police.
    Then in February 2012 that second suspension was followed four months later by another one, in which Trayvon was caught with an empty plastic bag with traces of marijuana in it AND a pipe. A schools police report obtained by The Miami Herald specifies two items: a bag with marijuana residue and a “marijuana pipe.”Trayvon was again suspended. This time for ten days.
    You can read much more about Trayvon’s drug involvement at Wagist. Click HERE
    The Martin family and attorneys et al are furious about the release of background school information to ABC news. Because one of their lawyers, Ben Crump, had filed an injunction to “seal” Trayvon’s school and criminal records earlier this month as soon as he was retained.
    The parents argue the background information on Trayvon is irrelevent, yet simultaneously proclaim the background information on George Zimmerman is vital. A tenuous position at best because one of the points of contention is the behavior of both during their encounter.
    False – Trayvon was a respectful peer and role model mentor.
    Truth - Trayvon left a trail of communication from his twitter account that is retrievable via google cache. His screen name was “NO_LIMIT_*****” and his words speak for themselves. You can read 152 pages of his twitter communication at DAILY CALLER.

    The Daily Caller has identified a second Twitter handle that was used by the late Trayvon Martin during the last weeks of 2011. Tweeting in December under the name “T33ZY TAUGHT M3,” Martin sent a message that read, “Plzz shoot da #mf dat lied 2 u!”

    There are also concerning discussions within the twitter communication from Trayvon’s friends about his violent encounter with a School Bus Driver. In the conversation Trayvon is discussing having punched the bus driver in the face.
    A reasonable person would think the media would be interested in this aspect. Alas, once again the media shows they only report on that which affirms their pre-scripted narrative. Someone tell Anderson Cooper that it shouldn’t be hard to find that bus driver….. wait, nevermind.
    Tattoo on back of Trayvon Martin's neck from Twitter Account. His mom's name is Sybrina

    Another picture of Trayvon’s right arm tattoo and physique:



    Financial Opportunism

    Trayvons mother also applied for Trademarks on his name last week.
    Sabrina Fulton (Trayvon’s Mom) is seeking Trademarks for the phrases “I Am Trayvon” and “Justice for Trayvon,” according to filings made last week with the United States Patent and Trademark Office.
    In both instances, Fulton is seeking the trademarks for use on “Digital materials, namely, CDs and DVDs featuring Trayvon Martin,” and other products.
    The March 21 USPTO applications, each of which cost $325, were filed by an Orlando, Florida law firm representing Fulton.
    Odd no? How many “grieving parents do you know that would be concerned with “Trademarking” their dead child’s name? And why?
    But then again, the Trayvon “Brand” would be more marketable and valuable if the constructed image of the innocent child victim could continue.
    Alas, now it becomes clear, why all of those people who stand to profit from the death of Trayvon, consider any fact based, or truthful, information too risky to the Trayvon brand.
    This also explains why Sabrina Fulton (Mom) and Tracy Martin (Dad) hired an attorney named Benjamin Crump. The very first action that Crump took upon retention was to file an injunction to “seal” Trayvon’s school and criminal records. Thereby trying to hide the troubling background.


    Discovery of Trayvon’s background presented a risk. Not just a risk of character assassination toward their son per se, but a risk to the “brand image” being created. A financial risk.

    All Lawyered Up..

    One of the key aspects of this fiasco to keep in mind is the “inability” of George Zimmerman to publicly defend himself or tell his story. Yet the family of Trayvon Martin, and their supporters, can talk 24/7 to every media outlet and personality.
    It seems every day a new legal representative face appears in the media, or even on Capitol Hill as an attorney for Tracy Martin (Dad) or Sabrina Fulton (Mom). A partial list of their known lawyers are:



        1. Benjamin Crump Esq. (Family/Natl Media)
        2. Daryl D Parks Esq. (Family/Natl Media/Gov’t Relations)
        3. Ms. Jasmine Rand Esq. (Natl Media/Public Relations)
        4. Ms. Areva Martin Esq. (Family/Natl Media)
        5. Ms. Kimra Major-Morris Esq. (Financial/Family/Media)



    This composes only a partial list of the National legal team hired by Trayvon’s family. Compared to Crump, Parks, Rand, Martin and Major-Morris, George Zimmerman is at a significant narrative disadvantage. And this doesn’t include the Florida States Attorney General’s office “Angela Corey”, from the Jacksonville Division, who is conducting the investigation with her 65+ person support team of prosecutors and investigators. Indeed, A flea looking into a furnace.
    Also he cannot share his side of the story for two more reasons:
    First, because he is litterally under threat of bodily harm and injury. The New Black Panther party has placed a MILLION DOLLAR bounty on his head, “Wanted Dead or Alive”, and tens of thousands of people are rallying daily with the Black Panthers and professional race-baiters.
    Even Spike Lee tweeted the address of Zimmerman’s home to his 248,000 followers. Fortunately for Zimmerman Spike Lee sent out the wrong address. However, profoundly unfortunate for the 70-year-old couple living there now housebound with around the clock security.
    Secondly, if Zimmerman was to speak now every word, nuance, phrase and intonation would be scrutinized by not only the media, but by law enforcement who are under extreme pressure to arrest Zimmerman, with or without legal merit. He has been advised to keep quiet. He cannot talk without a ridiculous amount of risk.
    THE 2005 ZIMMERMAN “ASSAULT” CASE

    Another fabrication the media allows to continue without correction surrounds a prior 2005 arrest (non-conviction) of George Zimmerman. The media and talking heads have repeated this mantra long enough to embed it in the psyche of almost every reader/listener. They frame the arrest as a battery charge against a police officer.
    But whoa… wait a minute. Arrest with NON-Conviction. Huh? Well the details are more nuanced and they prefer you not to know the full story because the headline fits their narrative, the content doesn’t.
    In 2005 Zimmerman was in a bar having a drink with a friend. Unbeknownst to them an undercover sting operation was going on inside the bar with police officers posing as patrons to catch bar operators selling alcohol to minors.
    An altercation between one of the undercover (regular clothes) officers and a friend of Zimmerman took place. Zimmerman thought his buddy was about to be in a bar fight so he interjected and shoved the guy away from his friend. The guy was part of the sting. Out of spite for the shove, and potentially frustration for no minor alcohol sales, they arrested Zimmerman and his pal.
    One media outlet did report truthfully. ONLY ONE.
    In 2005, Zimmerman was charged with resisting arrest with violence. State alcohol agents said Zimmerman pushed them while they were arresting a friend of his during an underage drinking operation at a bar. Zimmerman avoided a conviction by going into a pretrial program that is offered to people with no prior arrests.
    FACTS

    Now some facts to deconstruct the left-wing media bias.

    On Feb. 26, when Zimmerman first spotted Trayvon, he called police and reported a suspicious person. He called the non-emergency phone number not 911. He was taught to call this number by police as part of the Neighborhood Watch program. He described Trayvon as a black male, acting strangely and perhaps on drugs. Zimmerman was fulfilling his shift on the neighborhood watch patrol. He was Captain of the Neighborhood watch program because the HOA voted him as such. In this gated community there were eight burglaries, nine thefts, and a shooting just in the past year.
    In fact, the local homeowners’ association reports that George Zimmerman actually caught one thief and aided in the apprehension of other criminals. The Miami Herald wrote about this on March 17th. None of the thousands of articles and cable news segments that came after, thought this was important.
    In fact the Miami Herald goes on to interview neighbor, Ibrahim Rashada, who is black. Rashada confirms that there has been a lot of crime in the neighborhood and indicates to the reporter that the perpetrators are usually black.
    One of the commonly repeated media narratives is of George Zimmerman being a vigilante type personality. Nothing could be further from the truth as outlined in this report from an investigative piece done by The Philadelphia Enquirer, and intentionally ignored by all other National Media Outlets:
    [...] people are wondering if the 28-year-old Zimmerman is an earnest if somewhat zealous young man who was just looking out for his neighborhood, or a wannabe cop who tried to take justice into his own hands.
    Attorneys for Martin’s parents say Zimmerman is a “loose cannon.”
    “He’s a wannabe police officer,” lawyer Benjamin Crump said. “Why did he have a gun?”
    But some neighbors welcomed his vigilance, at least before the shooting.
    Samantha Leigh Hamilton, an auto-dealership employee who has lived on Zimmerman’s street for about a year, said that she once left her garage door up and Zimmerman noticed it while out walking his dog. He notified another neighbor, who let Hamilton know.
    “The only impression I have of George Zimmerman is a good one,” Hamilton said Wednesday.
    Hamilton said another neighbor, a black woman, would regularly inform Zimmerman when she was out-of-town so that he could keep an eye on her place. Hamilton said that when she moved into the middle-class, racially mixed community of about 250 identical townhouses, the black neighbor told her, “Hey, if you need anything, you picked a really good area, since George is part of our neighborhood watch.”
    Zimmerman, who was captain of the neighborhood watch and licensed to carry a gun, made 46 calls to police since 2004, according to department records.
    Hamilton said there had been several break-ins in the past year, including one three doors away in which burglars took a TV and laptops.
    “When I hear about him calling the police constantly, it kind of makes sense to me because we had so many break-ins recently,” she said.
    The homeowners association’s February newsletter said that Sanford police had beefed up patrols in the neighborhood and that officers on bicycles were making random checks of front yards and backyards. It was not clear how big the neighborhood watch was, but Zimmerman was the dominant force.
    If you’ve been the victim of a crime within the community, after calling the police, please contact our captain, George Zimmerman … so we can be aware and help address the issue with other residents,” the newsletter said. It added that the neighborhood watch group was looking for more participants at its monthly meetings.
    Zimmerman moved with his parents from Manassas, Va., to Florida about a decade ago. He lived with his parents in nearby Lake Mary for several years before moving to the Retreat at Twin Lakes, records show. He lives in the gated community with his wife, Shellie, a licensed cosmetologist, but is now in hiding because of death threats. (read more)

    George Zimmerman would not know Trayvon Martin because Trayvon was visiting, staying with his Dad’s girlfriend in the Orlando sub-division. Both the Dad and the girlfriend were not supervising Trayvon at the time. Neither adult were home.
    Much controversy has been “created” by the media about the fact Zimmerman was “following” Trayvon, as if that represented some form of unusual behavior.
    Zimmerman was on Neighborhood watch patrol, of course he’s gonna follow the suspicious person. That’s what patrols do. See something suspicious – Say something to police – and Keep watch. DUH?
    This point is not in contention by either Zimmerman or his attorney. It is a manufactured talking point of the race-baiters. AND it is being promoted by an agenda driven biased media.
    While on the phone with police George Zimmerman stopped the car and got out of his SUV to follow Trayvon on foot.
    When a dispatch employee asked Zimmerman if he was following the 17-year-old, Zimmerman said yes. The dispatcher told Zimmerman he “did not need to do that”. Zimmerman replied “OK”, and immediately turned back toward his SUV.
    Much false controversy has been made about the police dispatcher instructing Zimmerman not to follow the person (Trayvon), but it really is a moot point. It is standard protocol for all operators to say “do not engage” because they are told to do so by police departments fearful of being sued. As soon as the police dispatcher told him not to follow, he stopped, turned around and attempted to walk back to his vehicle.
    There is about a one-minute gap during which police say they’re not sure what happened next.
    According to the police report George Zimmerman told them he lost sight of Trayvon and was walking back to his SUV when Trayvon approached him from the left rear, and they exchanged words.
    Trayvon asked Zimmerman if he had a problem. Zimmerman said no and reached for his cell phone, he told police. Trayvon then said, “Well, you do now” or something similar and punched Zimmerman in the nose, according to the account he gave police. His nose was broken and bleeding when police arrived.
    Zimmerman fell to the ground and Trayvon got on top of him and began slamming his head into the sidewalk, he told police.
    An independent witness from the next house gave the same descriptive to police of Trayvon on top of Zimmerman punching him and pulling his head up and down slamming it into the sidewalk.
    Zimmerman began yelling for help.
    Several witnesses heard those cries, and there has been a dispute about whether they came from Zimmerman or Trayvon. Lawyers for Trayvon’s family say it was Trayvon, but police say their evidence indicates it was actually Zimmerman requesting help.
    One witness, named John, who has since talked to local television news reporters, told police he saw Zimmerman on the ground with Trayvon on top, “pounding him” — and was unequivocal that it was Zimmerman who was crying for help. He described with specificity what both people were wearing and their exact body positioning.
    At this point it becomes imperative to point out one of the most blatant media lies. George Zimmerman’s weight.
    The media continues to report that George Zimmerman outweighed Trayvon Martin by 100 lbs. You see that report and justification for the impossibility of physical assault everywhere. It is factually wrong.
    How did the false reporting start? A reporter researched a prior 2005 arrest report for George Zimmerman which placed his weight at 248 lbs. So that was what they reported as his 2012 weight. 248 lbs.
    In actuality he weighs 170 lbs. Yeah, he lost weight in those 7 years.
    No-one, not one reporter or TV talking head bothered to check. The 100/lb weight disparity fit the narrative, so they ran with it. Even now with the facts clearly available the media continues to sell the same lie.
    So let’s get this straight once and for all, at least here in the world of factual reality:

    George Zimmerman 2005 5′ 8″ @248 lbs

    George Zimmerman 2012 5′ 8″ @170 lbs

    • George Zimmerman is 5 foot 8 inches 170 lbs
    • Trayvon Martin was between 6 foot even and 6 foot 3 inches (per mom) 160 lbs (according to police report)

    IF THEY CAN’T EVEN GET THE DESCRIPTIONS CORRECT WHY WOULD PEOPLE BELIEVE ANYTHING THE MEDIA IS SAYING.?
    During the scuffle on the ground Zimmerman began trying to get his handgun out of his belt. Trayvon attempted to get the gun away from Zimmerman. Zimmerman then shot Trayvon once in the chest at very close range, according to authorities.
    The impact of the shot thrust Trayvon upward, backward, and partially spun him around to land on his stomach.
    The handgun was a Kel-Tec PF9 semiautomatic 9mm pistol. The police took immediate custody of the weapon when they arrived on scene. The gun was recovered with a full magazine and only the chambered round had been fired.
    This is a condition associated with something preventing the gun from cycling a fresh round from the magazine into the chamber after the shot was discharged. One thing that can cause this condition is another man’s hand wrapped around the pistol, retarding its slide mechanism.
    This would indicate, as the coroner’s office affirmed, that specific gunshot residue patterns and cuts were present in certain places on Trayvon Martin’s hand(s), and that a struggle for a gun was taking place when the fatal shot was fired.
    When police arrived less than two minutes later, Zimmerman was bleeding from the broken nose, had a swollen lip and had bloody lacerations on the back of his head.
    Zimmerman was processed as a potential criminal suspect and placed handcuffed in the rear of the second arriving patrol car. Paramedics from the Fire Dept. gave him first aid in the vehicle upon arrival but he said he did not need to go to the hospital. He got medical care the next day.
    He was held in the vehicle while preliminary investigation took place and the crime scene was initially processed. The police retained custody of the handgun.
    George Zimmerman was transported to the police department where he was questioned, recorded, and processed. The police questioned Zimmerman for five hours at police headquarters without an attorney present, apparently Zimmerman felt he had nothing to hide. The police report noted Zimmerman was “bleeding from the nose and the back of the head.”

    There are conflicting reports on what toxicological evidence was retrieved from Zimmerman. CBS reports none were done. However, that CBS article appears flawed in that regard. A Police Dept. spokesperson told local Orlando media a full toxicology analysis was completed including, blood tests, breathalyzer and the police took residue and swab samples of his hands, arms and body.
    In addition the police took custody of his clothing for further evidence processing.
    George Zimmerman was fully cooperative with investigators both on the scene and at the police department. He was noticeably shaken and distressed, but fully cooperated with all questions and gave both written and recorded statements for over five hours.
    Zimmerman’s statements were compared against witness statements, and against the recorded phone calls including a timeline analysis. In addition, his statements were compared against the physical evidence at the scene. The following day, detectives re-enacted the shooting with Zimmerman at the scene.
    After intensive questioning, George Zimmerman was released from custody pending further investigation. The police retained custody of the handgun and clothing of Mr. Zimmerman.
    Zimmerman sought medical treatment the following day for his nose, head, face and anxiety.
    Trayvon’s body was evaluated, autopsied, and crime scene processed by the coroner’s office.
    Who was Trayvon Martin? For the police this became a question difficult to answer. Unfortunately Trayvon was unknown to anyone at the scene, surrounding residences, investigators, police, or any person available for contact within the community.
    Completely understandable when you consider Trayvon lived in North Miami, and no-one within the gated Orlando community was familiar with him or where he was from.
    It is important to remember that neither Trayvon’s father Tracy Martin, nor his father’s girlfriend were home within the community at the time of the shooting.
    Hence the delay in police figuring out who this John Doe actually was.
    The shooting happened at approximately 7:15pm on 2/26. Trayvon’s parents were tracked down and notified on 2/28. Between those times, no-one in the Martin family has described making any effort to locate Trayvon. Nor has any Martin family member described themselves filing a missing person report.
    ODD STUFF

    There is one odd Point of contention from the Mitchell family about a “supposed” phone call Trayvon made during the time Zimmerman was following him.
    The call was reportedly to Trayvon’s girlfriend in Miami, who has, according to the Mitchell’s completed an affidavit stating that Trayvon told her on the phone he was being followed.
    Both Trayvon’s parents, and their attorney Benjamin Crump think this phone call is an important aspect because it shows George Zimmerman was “following” Trayvon Martin.
    The family thinks it is so important they had the girlfriend swear an affidavit to that affect. However, something doesn’t smell right about this because again today we discover something new. There is a lie embedded in this entire “phone call” narrative, but what aspect is false is yet unknown.
    Why so sure?
    Tonight, Tuesday (3-27) on CNN Piers Morgan Show Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi was questioned about the case and some general aspects surrounding the ongoing investigation. During the conversation about wanting to get to the bottom of everything. Pam Bondi specifically stated that Trayvon’s girlfriend had previously been unwilling to cooperate with police.
    Bondi stated she was hopeful that Trayvon’s girlfriend would now become more cooperative, because since the time of the initial early investigation, up to and including all subsequent inquiries, she has been unwilling to talk to police or provide records of the phone call. She has refused numerous times to be interviewed and would not provide a statement to police, nor allow herself to be interviewed even with legal representation.
    Why? Well, I’ve got a strong hunch, but it is supposition so I’ll not go there because for the sake of intellectual honesty every cintilla of verbage on this subject up to this point is factual, fact based, and verifiable.

    However, I’m not sure why this phone call is even a point of contention.
    Again, neither the police, nor Zimmerman dispute the fact Trayvon was being followed by Zimmerman. If anything it leads further credibility to Zimmerman’s explanation of events.
    However, again I note while the parents of Trayvon are stating they are in possession of a sworn affidavit from the girlfriend, she has never allowed herself to swear the same to police or law enforcement. She has refused any and all attempts at being interviewed.
    Perhaps even more alarmingly, if she’s being truthful, this aspect does bring up a general common sense question:
    “If” this phone call was actually taking place during part of the time Zimmerman was following Trayvon, and if Trayvon told his girlfriend that someone was following him, then why wasn’t anyone worried or looking for Trayvon when he didn’t show up or come home.?
    If anything this bit of information makes it even more odd that Mom, Dad, or Trayvon’s girlfriend were not worried even more about where he was.
    There are two obvious really tragic aspects to his death. One is the shooting, and a life cut so short.
    But with a full measure of brutal honestly, another is the culpability of his non-engaged parents in creating a morally undisciplined teenager.
    Their visible outrage now showcased in the media is understandable given their grief. But perhaps a dose of guilt is intertwined.
    Apparently it should be.

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    Scott Matusow: which other way can it go but for what facts are known now about both men, leaving race out of it, it appears Martin's behavior can be ascertained from his prior and well documented behavior. He was a hit first, think later wanna be thug, and I think the evidence is rather clear in this, especially Martin's cold cocking a bus driver. This was no KIDDIE, this was clearly a wanna be thug, In my opinion, he got what was coming to him. Zimmerman on the other hand did not willingly assault a police officer as erroneoustly reported. Now to quence the mob mentality's quest for their brand of justice, Zimmerman has become a political scapegoat where its evident to any reasonable thinker, he acted in self defense and within the bounds of a neighborhood watchman.


    furthermore, if Certain Blacks want a race war, bring it, because I am sick of all the bitching and whining and excuse "blame others" mentality here. I'm Jewish, the blacks have about 50 million more wrongful deaths to catch up to us. Do you hear us screaming about racisim? Its time African Americans indentify themselves as Americans. if not, then go the fk back to Africa is America is so damned racist.

    if america is so damned racist" I say THEY ARE THE RACISTS and need to be held to the task, Im so sick of minorities bitching and whining. I say its time Sharpton is held accountable from all americans, all races. Again, if African Americans want to make everything about the fact they are African heritage, then go the fk back to Africa. If did not like it here, I would go to my homeland. u following? I dont care what color Martin was, Zimmerman, etc, I care about behavior and evidence, not the rage baiting of evil manipulative men. Its time the African Americans become just simply "AMERICANS" they have rightfully won civil rights out of a time they were treated poorly with real racism. Real racism is not being allowed to swim in a pool with whites. not heing allowed to drink from same water fountain, REPREHENSIBLE, and abolished, rightfully so. No race will ever stop racism totally, there will always be Jew haters, Black hater, Mexican haters, etc. but the law is amended now for all to enjoy equal rights, INCLUDING ZIMMERMAN, who had the right to defend himself from violence. One more time; if your are considered " black" and have a chip on your shoulder, get over the chip on your shoulder and join the human race, and stop being paranoid of white people already. Failure to do so will just have everyone seeing you as "BLACK" because YOU make it about that. I dont, YOU DO!

    Because they want a rallying point to stir the base and give Obama, a man who certainly does deserve another term, well another term! since he cannot run on his total lack of merit and failed promises, this distraction works fine for them. its a common diseased utlral liberal thinkers trick, and its dangerous, creates tension and paranoism. Sadly, Americans are becoming more dumbed down and "blame someone else but yourself" orientated. Nazis used this same method to arise to power.

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    Why will I vote Republican? Well, not because I particularly trust them, rather because they are closer to a view of personal responsibility doctrines than the liberal left, who in my opinion, have not a clue between intellectual honesty and dishonesty is. I find far left leaning people as weak minded control freaks who wish to control others because they normally cannot control themselves. From Intellectually dishonest intelligent people comes self deception, which always trickles down to less intelligent blame gamers, appealing to various degrees of personal failure. Instead of taking responsibility for these failures and making a real change, these people once again resort to blaming others for their failures. It shocks me as a Jew, that most Jews in America are ultra liberals, seeing that Hitler used this very tactic to attempt to wipe us off the face of the earth

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    I found the answer! Bush forced me to buy a home I could not really afford, and passed bills forcing me to over load my ************, buy things I could not really afford. These bills were evil, especially the one Bush passed that forces me to watch sports, reality shows, cable news, etc, etc, Thank goodness Obama only passed a bill forcing me to buy health care insurance!

    I have realized finally that I am a racist; whats wrong with me, how can I possibly believe that anyone from a minority race could possibly react to someone following them by punching and beating their head into the ground! I need to get with the program man and realize its ok when a minority engages in this behavior to allow them to do so, as I dont want to be seen a racist, even if it means my life could be in danger!

    Apparently, when a minority group engages is a clear felony conspiracy to commit a kidnapping action, it's ok because as a country of warped apathetic ultra leftists, feeling oppressed gives them the right to break the law, because after all , its us white people who made them that way right? @thenewblackpanthers.

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    WTF is all of this

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    Shapiro was quoted as saying the prosecutions case is laughable. Zimmer gets aquitted and all hell breaks loose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
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    WTF is all of this
    I agree

    tt Do you work for Fox or CNN??

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    good stuff, thats what

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    TT posting the political views of a broke-dick loser like Scott Matusow is laughable.
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    TT,

    get to the bottom of this.

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    Scott is a scam artist like his brother. Watched him get bitch slapped and have his pockets emptied and his jewelry taken along with his car from Venetian parking garage after not paying back an undisclosed poker player a debt. He was down to his tighty whiteys and socks crying like a 2 year old. Whole family is dirt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spankie View Post
    TT,

    get to the bottom of this.
    Only thing tubby is getting to the bottom of is a 20 piece of KFC.

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    that means nothing, the issue is trayvon

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    Zimmerman is on trial, not the deceased. Martin had no weapon. Easy to bury someone when they are no longer alive to speak for themselves.

    Can't take much tt says seriously as he defended Sandusky.

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    UH, I am not scott matusow. I have no view on the issue. None, nadda,

    zimmerman was jumped and getting his head pounded into the ground by the way.

    More areas need a watch program.

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    What is the point of all of this? The court will ill sort it out with actual evidence as opposes to conjecture and guesses. Who would waste so much time on this.

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    the evidence is overwhelming that zimmerman is innocent and that the black guy was a violent disrespectful thug

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    Quote Originally Posted by paranoyd androyd View Post
    the evidence is overwhelming that zimmerman is innocent and that the black guy was a violent disrespectful thug
    The evidence hasn't been presented, how would you know?

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    ^^ do you not have eyes? did you not see the bloody gashes and large bump on the back of zimmerman's head and the various thug pictures of the black guy above?

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    Dayam, sandusky. I give you props for that tt. That is a tough one to defend.

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    The Florida Attorney General defamed George Zimmerman. That's the real case here. It appears that the police "originally" had it right... the AG did not. I believe that Mr. Zimmerman is genuinely apologetic to the kid's family.

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    Zimmerman is a true american hero.

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    Zimmermann/Romney a good correlated parlay

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    I love the "thug picture" defense.

    Although, when a white woman is brutally raped and murdered after getting a ride home from a white guy at a bar, we don't see her spring break photos, do we? We don't see the sexting photos she sent to her boyfriend so we can make the assumption that she must have been some "whore" who deserved what she got ..do we? But in Trayvon case we get these photos. The photos of a dead kid who looks like a "thug" that happen to want some candy during halftime of a basketball game, got profiled, and then shot.

    Funny how that works out.

    Gotta love the ol’ US of A
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    Quote Originally Posted by GUMMO77 View Post
    I love the "thug picture" defense.

    Although, when a white woman is brutally raped and murdered after getting a ride home from a white guy at a bar, we don't see her spring break photos, do we? We don't see her sexting photos she sent to her boyfriend so we can make the assumption that she must have been some "whore" who deserved what she got ..do we? But in Trayvon case we get these photos. The photos of a dead kid who looks like a "thug" that happen to want some candy during halftime of a basketball game, got profiled, and then shot.

    Funny how that works out.

    Gotta love the ol’ US of A
    Whores dont deserve to get raped. Thugs who attack others deserve to get shot by those defending themselves. I'm not saying Trayvon is a thug, however, the evidence seems to be that he did attack Zimmerman. I also remember something about him talking about punching a bus driver in the head, which is completely relevant.

    Both sides need to stop acting as if they know exactly who Trayvon was.

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    Ok, TT, let's do this the scientific way.

    I am about half your size, so it shouldn't be as difficult for you as it was for Zim. We give you a gun loaded with a blank and tuck it in your waistband. We start with me on top of you, punching you in the face, on top of a hard surface. If you can successfully pull and discharge your weapon in any meaningful way, I owe you 50% of my lifetime income. If not, I get the satisfaction of the experiment.

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    U can't be serious , t hat wou l d be easy , dam n l aptop

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    Quote Originally Posted by rm18 View Post
    Zimmermann/Romney a good correlated parlay

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    bump for sunday posters and people with attention deficit disorder

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    Quote Originally Posted by icancount2one View Post
    Ok, TT, let's do this the scientific way.

    I am about half your size, so it shouldn't be as difficult for you as it was for Zim. We give you a gun loaded with a blank and tuck it in your waistband. We start with me on top of you, punching you in the face, on top of a hard surface. If you can successfully pull and discharge your weapon in any meaningful way, I owe you 50% of my lifetime income. If not, I get the satisfaction of the experiment.
    Anyone who has ever done any form of grappling/combatives/wrestling can tell you it's relatively easy to be on the bottom and still maneuver to get to your waistband. In technical terms it's called shrimping and stabbing....shrimp (sliding to adjust or escape the mount/side position) and stabbing - just thrust your hand between your stomach/waist are and the inner leg of the guy on top...usually this helps to gain leverage to throw the other but it's also easy way to get the hand in the holster area. Weight doesn't matter much here.

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    keep getting the truth out there tt good work

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    Quote Originally Posted by itchypickle View Post
    Anyone who has ever done any form of grappling/combatives/wrestling can tell you it's relatively easy to be on the bottom and still maneuver to get to your waistband. In technical terms it's called shrimping and stabbing....shrimp (sliding to adjust or escape the mount/side position) and stabbing - just thrust your hand between your stomach/waist are and the inner leg of the guy on top...usually this helps to gain leverage to throw the other but it's also easy way to get the hand in the holster area. Weight doesn't matter much here.
    I promise you this is different IRL than wrestling or karate class, lol... The issue isn't the ability to reach the waistband, the issue is the ability to do so while receiving massive head trauma from a downward fist and a sharp chunk of concrete. Maintaining consciousness would be difficult if his head was lined up with a sharp piece of concrete where "the wound" is, let alone effective resistance.

    This "quick pull and shoot" technique directly contradicts the claim that there was a struggle for the gun. The claim that there was a struggle for the gun contradicts the claim that Trayvon was far bigger and scarier than Zim. I haven't seen any forensic evidence, but a shot in the back seems more likely than our "big and scary" black antagonist doing a 180 before landing. We also don't see blood spray all over Zim.

    Looking at the whole picture, I cannot put together a narrative that looks good for Zimmerman. Every time I try, there are huge holes.

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