[HawkEye]

With that said. If you want to tip a dealer then tip them what you can afford or whatever you think is reasonable. tipping in the casino business is good karma and good fortune. Atleast that's what we all tell ourselves. If you dont want to ever have to tip a dealer then i recommend bodog blackjack.

[bettilimbroke999]

Bettilimbroke, maybe you should become a card dealer then and make that 100K a year you speak of

Its funny you mention that as I've thought about it, I got 2 friends that both deal and both make a killing doing nothing, ones a poker dealer that robs 5 from each pot regardless how microscopic the pot is fukin 20 buck pot who cares take 5 and then get tipped 1-2 bucks for your "service" and the other is a casino games dealer that makes over 40k a year workin less than 5 months out of the year

Both these guys are way on the +EV side of the casinos, in other words working for the house

[HawkEye]

Why do players use the words "rob", "thief", and "steal". You play at your own risk. And you know the odds are against you if you play against the casino. And if you play poker yes you 9 tools at the table are losing $5 from the pot everytime. $3 to the house to set up the poker room and have dealers be there and deal to you guys otherwise the casino is openin the poker room and tables and renting card shufflers and at the end cater to your poker gambling habbits for free. Oh yes and $2 goes to the PSJ (players jackpot) thats when you hit a monte carlo hand and they pay your ass with the collected money that's why it progesses everyday. If you dont want to chip in that measely $5 with the other 8 guys at the table then set up a home poker game and stfu.

[Glitch]

Dealers get tipped by whoever wins the pot in poker its fukin ridiculous they could care less who wins they get their tip either way its not like they care if you won or the other guy, on top of grabbing the casinos 5 bucks out of every pot, fuckers are makin out like bandits. You play for 7 hours and tip 35 while the other 9 guys at the table tip 35, dudes made 350 dollars in tips in 7 hours and robbed the table for another 1000 for the casino in that time as well. Yea I really think the monkey deserves to make 100k a year for dealing cards while some rooster_eater sweating to death over the grill at McDs pulls in 15k

unless one guys a good tipper and ones a sh*tty tipper, then they'd obviously want the good tipper to win.

[robmpink]

I've seen more dealers make a face or give bad body language if they deal a good hand and get a poor tip or no tip. This gets me mad.

[bettilimbroke999]

My girl deals blackjack and craps.

The same assclowns who think the dealer is responsible for their "bad luck" are the ones who don't tip when their luck changes.

And everyone complaining about GA and all that, blame the directors and CEOs for creating an addictive environment or blame the players for being self-destructive idiots, but if there's one person not to blame it's the dealer.

Not how I feel at all, the dealer is irrelevant, the game is rigged and the dealer just deals the cards and collects the money for the house, I dont blame the dealer and say **** you ya robbin ************ when I lose but I also dont thank them or tip them when I win

[bettilimbroke999]

unless one guys a good tipper and ones a sh*tty tipper, then they'd obviously want the good tipper to win.

Im the bad tipper, no wonder the dealer yells come on flush, one time baby, when the other guys got a flush draw

[bettilimbroke999]

Why do players use the words "rob", "thief", and "steal". You play at your own risk. And you know the odds are against you if you play against the casino. And if you play poker yes you 9 tools at the table are losing $5 from the pot everytime. $3 to the house to set up the poker room and have dealers be there and deal to you guys otherwise the casino is openin the poker room and tables and renting card shufflers and at the end cater to your poker gambling habbits for free. Oh yes and $2 goes to the PSJ (players jackpot) thats when you hit a monte carlo hand and they pay your ass with the collected money that's why it progesses everyday. If you dont want to chip in that measely $5 with the other 8 guys at the table then set up a home poker game and stfu.

At most casinos its 4 for the house and 1 for the progressive, on top of that they expect 1-2 bucks a hand in tips are you fuckin kiddin me?

Lets say they deal a hand every 2 minutes so rake 120 an hour whilst paying the dealer min wage for a net profit of like 112 bucks an hour guaranteed, yea I really feel like I need to tip extra on top of the 120 an hour were already paying to provide a table and a guy to deal cards

[Bigphil662]

I dont know where you are living at but the economy is a mess most places. I read about a former CEO who was making 100,000 a year and couldnt find a job so he is delivering pizzas for 8 dollars an hour. Some people at Mcdonalds and other minimum wage jobs have a college degree but cant find any other jobs right now. I respect that rather than just sitting at home on your ass and doing nothing. Im glad you are raking in the money

[HawkEye]

At most casinos its 4 for the house and 1 for the progressive, on top of that they expect 1-2 bucks a hand in tips are you fuckin kiddin me?

Lets say they deal a hand every 2 minutes so rake 120 an hour whilst paying the dealer min wage for a net profit of like 112 bucks an hour guaranteed, yea I really feel like I need to tip extra on top of the 120 an hour were already paying to provide a table and a guy to deal cards

If you put it that way you individually are paying aprox $13 an hour for your seat so you can try to win other peoples money. But when you rake in a kill pot in a 4-8 game for $300+ you're telling me you cant throw a $1 chip towards the dealers way? Then why are you gambling in the first place if that $1 or $2 will put a dent in your piggy bank.

[playersonly69]

I always tip good simply cause i can. I play mainly 2-5 and 5-10 NL hold em and in a given night i can tip up to 35 bucks or so if i have a winning session. A buck here and there and 5-7 bucks every time i win a 400-1000 pot. Someone made a comment that the average poker player tips 3,000 a year, and this is mostly skewed by professional players who tip very well in high stakes games.

You are wrong here and I can prove it to from your statement. I first mentioned about the retired Brick and Mortar player. Most of those guy play AT LEAST 4-5 days a week.

Now you said that you tip around $35 a night. Well lets make that $30 a night. If you ONLY play 100 days a year then that is $3000 a year. Most of those guys play around 200 days a year or more. So they are giving out $6000 in tips OR MORE

[King Mayan]

This is obviously going nowhere if your not gonna respect another man's opinion since your behind your tightwad pos ass at home. Go back to watching movies and quoting tough guy lines. You can spin it anyway you want but you don't have to tip anyone for anything in your life. I PERSONALLY think its the right thing to do. If a guy does help you carry a tv out to your car why wouldn't you want to show appreciation for the help? There is no rule behind tipping anyone at wal mart but I think its a nice gesture even if it were only a dollar. Anyway I know my logic will always be flawed in your eyes so I guess we can just agree to disagree here bud.


You said you could open a buisness and pay folks slave wages and make a killing right? How would they still work there if all the customers were like you and didnt tip?

don't waste your time with this disgruntled broke fukk....

Bettil is the biggest complaining bitch on this board...

[PlatinumBerg]

The poker dealers at the casino I go to make $5 an hour + tips. How many many hands do you think they deal per hour, and how many of those hands do you think they receive tips from?

[bettilimbroke999]

If you put it that way you individually are paying aprox $13 an hour for your seat so you can try to win other peoples money. But when you rake in a kill pot in a 4-8 game for $300+ you're telling me you cant throw a $1 chip towards the dealers way? Then why are you gambling in the first place if that $1 or $2 will put a dent in your piggy bank.

Dude c'mon I mean yes the 1 300 dollar pot you rake in all day sure you can tip a buck but Im talkin bout the guys that tip fuckin religiously, I'll go down there and play 1/2 NL and guy will win a 20 buck pot thats first raked like 4 bucks so they get 16 then theyll throw the dealer a dollar and have 15 bucks 10 of which was theirs to begin with, the house/dealer made as much that hand as the winning player, its a fuckin joke what some of these suckers are doing out there

[bettilimbroke999]

The poker dealers at the casino I go to make $5 an hour + tips. How many many hands do you think they deal per hour, and how many of those hands do you think they receive tips from?

First off it depends on the # of players how long a hand takes, a full table 10 handed I would just guess around 2 mins, so you're talking 30 hands/hour, gettin tipped 2/3 of the hands 1-2 dollars at least depending on the game more at higher games, basically the uneducated bastards makin about 30 bucks an hour to rob your ass blind and YOU'RE the one payin his salary lol, not the casino that's rakin 120 bucks an hour risk free no its the guy who won a 20 buck pot that got robbed 4 bucks that is paying the dealers insane salary, dude should be thankful to get paid min wage to deal some fukin cards

[8ArIvd5]

That's absolutely ******* ridiculous the jobs would have to exist anyway if they want to have a restaurant, the reason they pay them 2 bucks an hour and force me to tip 20% to not feel like a jackass is bc they want to keep labor costs to slave wage levels so they can line their pockets, if they gave a horses **** about their employees they wouldnt pay them 2 bucks an hour, hell I can open a business all day long paying ppl 2 bucks an hour and tell them to depend on tips for the rest and make a killing but the only businesses that can sucker the customer into paying the employees salaries is restaurants, casinos and hotels/valets

Your logic is ridiculous as well, I CAN afford to go out and buy the meal I just dont want to pay everyone's ******* salary on top of the price of my meal, when you go to Wal-Mart if they said that'll be 800 bucks for a TV and you were expected to tip 160 bucks to the guy who helped you load that 80 lb thing into your car would you say sure bc that guy doesnt make much over minimum wage, I mean why would you even buy a nice TV if you cant afford a 20% tip for the guy helpin you carry that thing out to your car

It would also create MORE jobs if ppl didnt have to pay 20% extra for tips, I would be more incline to go to a restaurant if it was 20% cheaper, the owners are creating LESS jobs but making MORE money for themselves by making the employees dependent on random tips from the customers to make a living, you are complimenting the owners for paying slave wages and basically creating a workforce of beggars, very ****** up logic you have

if i were buying a big ass t.v. and needed help i'd bring a friend.

when i buy new furniture and get it delivered and have two big ass dudes bring it into my house and set it up without having it scratched or my walls banged i'll usually leave them a 20 to split to get a burger and some fries. or when i had a piano mover come in to move the grand to the grandma's house, i left him and his helper a 20 because they knew what they were doing and didn't **** up the furniture.

tipping is about reciprocity. when someone provides proper, competent service i thank them appropriately. same goes for when everyone's eating but one person. i thank them appropriately.

bet, have you every bought a 6 pack for a friend who helped you do something around the house?

[bettilimbroke999]

don't waste your time with this disgruntled broke fukk....

Bettil is the biggest complaining bitch on this board...

How do you kill a Mexican....make him live in Mexico

[bettilimbroke999]

if i were buying a big ass t.v. and needed help i'd bring a friend.

when i buy new furniture and get it delivered and have two big ass dudes bring it into my house and set it up without having it scratched or my walls banged i'll usually leave them a 20 to split to get a burger and some fries. or when i had a piano mover come in to move the grand to the grandma's house, i left him and his helper a 20 because they knew what they were doing and didn't **** up the furniture.

tipping is about reciprocity. when someone provides proper, competent service i thank them appropriately. same goes for when everyone's eating but one person. i thank them appropriately.

bet, have you every bought a 6 pack for a friend who helped you do something around the house?

First off, why the **** would me and a friend drag some 80 lb TV that I'd just paid 800 bucks for (prolly Wal-Mart made 300 profit off of) through the store when they have ppl with dolly's who are employed to do that? It doesnt make any sense

Tip everybody that does anything for ya for all I care, when the bitch makes your food at McDonald's throw her a 20 and say thanks for slaving over that grease pit, if you're that rich where u feel everybody and their grandma deserves a 20 tip just for doing their job that you're already paying for then by all means enjoy yourself.

I used to live in a duplex and when my neighbor would mow my yard I would give him a 12-pack as thanks (it was a small yard and he had a dog and was responsible pretty much anyway but thats the kinda standup godlike creature I am). I have no problem tipping when someone goes out of their way above and beyond but **** if a guy is moving furniture for me I am paying him, if somehow I've scammed somebody into moving it for free sure I'll give em 20 as thanks for the 60 I woulda had to pay a normal sob to do it

[King Mayan]

How do you kill a Mexican....make him live in Mexico

Stop complaining disgruntled broke,sex-less fukk....

[8ArIvd5]

First off, why the **** would me and a friend drag some 80 lb TV that I'd just paid 800 bucks for (prolly Wal-Mart made 300 profit off of) through the store when they have ppl with dolly's who are employed to do that? It doesnt make any sense

Tip everybody that does anything for ya for all I care, when the bitch makes your food at McDonald's throw her a 20 and say thanks for slaving over that grease pit, if you're that rich where u feel everybody and their grandma deserves a 20 tip just for doing their job that you're already paying for then by all means enjoy yourself.

I used to live in a duplex and when my neighbor would mow my yard I would give him a 12-pack as thanks (it was a small yard and he had a dog and was responsible pretty much anyway but thats the kinda standup godlike creature I am). I have no problem tipping when someone goes out of their way above and beyond but **** if a guy is moving furniture for me I am paying him, if somehow I've scammed somebody into moving it for free sure I'll give em 20 as thanks for the 60 I woulda had to pay a normal sob to do it

i wouldn't want some schmuck to **** up my t.v., but with your thinking anyone who makes anything monetarily off me has to do everything i tell them because money's the only ******* thing that matters.

broke jack ass.

[bigbet1234]

So, someone is playing a $1 VP machine and hits a progressive $5K Jackpot with a royal flush, you want 10% of that? even 5% is way to much. WTF

I hate when dealers say...."a tip would be nice" that is when I DONT tip. you don't ask for a tip, PERIOD

Ok Let me put this convo to rest. I am in fact a table game dealer at my local casino in town. First off, most dealers make minimum wage + tips. Therefor we make a living off of tips. As a dealer, we are just robots. We deal the cards to you, give you a card when you hit, pay you when you win, take your wager if you lose, help you with the game if you need help. As players, you are not pressured into tipping us but it would be nice and generous of you if you do and we thank you. Gambling is gambling of course the house edge is against you and your chance of losing is higher than winning. But when you only put $15 at risk on a paigow hand and happen to win a few hundred or even a few thousand, throwing the dealer $10, $20, $50 is nothing. Afterall the dealer did shuffle the cards and placed it in the machine and shook the dice so that the royal flush landed on the spot you were playing. Get where i'm going here? The Wager that you risked was so small but your return was 150-1 odds giving the dealer 1/150 of your return wont put a dent in the savings will it? If it does then you shouldnt be gambling to start with. Usually dealers are looking to get just 10% of a jackpot. But a lot of people tip 5% all the
time. Now if you are risking $900 a hand on baccarat and win 10 hands in a row, we dont expect $900 in tip. Because you are risking a lot to win a lot. Not a little to win a lot. You can just tip the dealer $50 or so and leave. But if you really like a dealer because the way they treat you or you like their skill level or they keep you entertain and you want to tip them more, make sure you ask them if they get to keep their own tips or do they have to share. Because you dont want to tip someone who didnt do anything to help you out or dealt you winners all night. Hopefully this helps as I dont want to ramble on any longer.

[bettilimbroke999]

i wouldn't want some schmuck to **** up my t.v., but with your thinking anyone who makes anything monetarily off me has to do everything i tell them because money's the only ******* thing that matters.

broke jack ass.

Dont act like such a prick, if you want to tip the girl at Burger King a 20 be my guest, for me personally I dont and it has nothing to do with how much money I have, in fact its the guys who are reckless with their money like you that end up living under an overpass

[pavyracer]

If you are going to tip the dealer after he deals you a BJ then the dealer should tip you when he gets a BJ.

[HawkEye]

So, someone is playing a $1 VP machine and hits a progressive $5K Jackpot with a royal flush, you want 10% of that? even 5% is way to much. WTF

I hate when dealers say...."a tip would be nice" that is when I DONT tip. you don't ask for a tip, PERIOD

Ok first off I did not say slot machine one time. I said a jackpot on paigow where there is a dealer and cards involve. Not a computer. So please read carefully before you jump to conclusions and say you dont want to tip 10% or 5%.

[Marigold HD]

There is a social pressure to tip the dealers, and I adhere to it. But if you are playing for a living, it certainly affects your salary. If you're playing a house-edge game it sucks to have to throw more away on top of your disadvantage, but I avoid those games normally.

I agree totally

.....when playing with others and everyones winning, everyone tips....you always feel pressure to tip as well.

[acarmelo1]

I only tip dealers if I win BIG!!!!
I tell them them at the begging of the session. If I win BIG you get a good tip.
So they would want me to win, and cheat for me.

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

You are wrong here and I can prove it to from your statement. I first mentioned about the retired Brick and Mortar player. Most of those guy play AT LEAST 4-5 days a week.

Now you said that you tip around $35 a night. Well lets make that $30 a night. If you ONLY play 100 days a year then that is $3000 a year. Most of those guys play around 200 days a year or more. So they are giving out $6000 in tips OR MORE

i play once a week, i work too much.

[Ra77er]

don't waste your time with this disgruntled broke fukk....

Bettil is the biggest complaining bitch on this board...

I've learned my lesson

[bettilimbroke999]

Ok first off I did not say slot machine one time. I said a jackpot on paigow where there is a dealer and cards involve. Not a computer. So please read carefully before you jump to conclusions and say you dont want to tip 10% or 5%.

You must be high, 5-10% tip

I might throw you a 25 chip and say here get yourself something nice, well actually after the way you've acted in this thread I wouldnt tip you a fuckin dollar, just knowing that you think you are entitled to 5-10% of a jackpot is comical, so if I win 10k you expect me to tip you 500-1k just for dealin the hand, you dealers must be taking a break to smoke crack every 20 minutes when you get "tapped out" of the game

[El Sol]

people will gamble regardless,so in saying that Computer programs are far more efficient and theres no chance of computers cheating or making mistakes, so casinos would love to get rid of the dealers. Take away tipping, you take away good paying jobs thus take away the dealer and the casino will replace them with machines.

Besides, I'm a good tipper which bring some benefits. The most obvious is the floor man steering m towards the whales in the room (poker). You better believe my return on investment on this tidbit is enormous.

the second is more subtle, when I used tp play table games in the past. The dealer would hook me up when I was losing. Paying me when I pushed or pushing my hand when I lost. Its happened multiple times, all because I'm a good tipper.

If you dont like tipping, than gamble on the Internet. You ask any dealer, they will tell you the same thing, they dont expect tips when you are losing.

[bettilimbroke999]

At the end of the night when your broke from playing their rigged ass games does the dealer give ya back 10% of what he ****** you out of?

[El Sol]

At the end of the night when your broke from playing their rigged ass games does the dealer give ya back 10% of what he ****** you out of?

probably not, but whether you tipped or not, you still would've lost the money. thats why I dont play table games anymore, stick with poker, sports and horse racing

[pavyracer]

In my line of work if we get a tip it's considered bribery and it's not allowed.

[El Sol]

In my line of work if we get a tip it's considered bribery and it's not allowed.

or conflict of interest

[8ArIvd5]

Dont act like such a prick, if you want to tip the girl at Burger King a 20 be my guest, for me personally I dont and it has nothing to do with how much money I have, in fact its the guys who are reckless with their money like you that end up living under an overpass

who said anything about burger king? you think i'd tip more than the ******* meal? you're trying to hard to win a non-existent argument.