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    All of this love on the packers is crazy!

    Falcons at home, Matt Ryan, Michael Turner, Tony Gonzalez, and Roddy White...I'll take that over Rodgers Jenning and Starks. Come on really going to bet against the best Home Team in the NFL, after they rested all week?!? You guys really don't give any respect to a team who was 13-3, has an above average defense, and a Quarterback who has shown all year long that he can do it with no time left on the clock. I am going to be pounding the Falcons -130 Moneyline, because too many of you guys are pounding the Packers. I'll just sit back and win my money

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    Packers are the best team in the NFC right now. and the fact that this line is so low confirms that they are now on top of the NFC Power Ratings. They have the best defense in the NFC, so that should negate Turner and Gonzalez somewhat, and while Ryan is very good, Rodgers is an elite quarterback.

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    defense has gone on the road and shut out the jets, held the pats to 250 total yards, and the falcons to 17 points(a falcon team that usually gets every call at home..ie the baltimore game).....white is tough to stop...but they have williams and woodson...they just need to generate some pressure and force ryan to get rid of the ball quicker than he wants to.....

    havent decided if im gonna play em ....but as a pats fan/season ticket holder...and a guy who was on gb last weekend...gb is prob the only side id touch in this one if i do play it

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    Will be a great game for sure!

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    All this Packers love is making me want to smash my head in a wall

    Lets go Falcons!

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    Born and raised in Wisconsin. Packer fan all my life. Atlanta is going to win this game. The Packers need to have another great running game to have any chance in this one and I don't see that happening again. Rodgers is going to end up one dimensional and won't be able to match score for score with Atlanta. I want the Packers to win but I like money and that's going on Atlanta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    Packers are the best team in the NFC right now. and the fact that this line is so low confirms that they are now on top of the NFC Power Ratings. They have the best defense in the NFC, so that should negate Turner and Gonzalez somewhat, and while Ryan is very good, Rodgers is an elite quarterback.
    LTPROFIT, there is no way you truly are believing the hype that Green Bay is the Best Team in the NFC. I read enough on here to know you have to be smarter than that, Rodgers Elite? How about Matt Ryan, all the guy has done is win, and win at home. I'll take Matt Ryan over Rodgers, the best team in the NFC is Atlanta, they deserve some credit! Green Bay may be on a little run right now, but come on you can't tell me there better than Atlanta. Turner is going to have a good game, and Turner will get completions to White throughout the game. I'm telling you this, LT, really gonna bet against the best home team, when they are at home in the playoffs? Will be a close game, but I'm leaning 27-17 Atlanta.

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    Ryan not Turner...ooops

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    Take the over

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    Quote Originally Posted by tshafer View Post
    LTPROFIT, there is no way you truly are believing the hype that Green Bay is the Best Team in the NFC. I read enough on here to know you have to be smarter than that, Rodgers Elite? How about Matt Ryan, all the guy has done is win, and win at home. I'll take Matt Ryan over Rodgers, the best team in the NFC is Atlanta, they deserve some credit! Green Bay may be on a little run right now, but come on you can't tell me there better than Atlanta. Turner is going to have a good game, and Turner will get completions to White throughout the game. I'm telling you this, LT, really gonna bet against the best home team, when they are at home in the playoffs? Will be a close game, but I'm leaning 27-17 Atlanta.
    I don't have to tell you that the Packers are the best team in the NFC because the sportsbooks were screaming it to you by opening this line at Atlanta -1. So it is not "Green Bay hype", if the books rate the Packers as the best team, then you have to respect it because they know what they are doing.

    And yes, Rodgers is an elite quarterback as in Top 5 in the NFL. He has single-handedly carried the Packers on his back many times with no running game whatsoever and still gotten Green Bay to this point vs. defenses that knew he would throw on every play. Ryan is very good but it is easier to play quarterback when you have a great running game supporting you.

    Speaking of running game, the Green Bay offensive line is playing the best it has all year right now at the perfect time, and that was the reason Sparks found so many holes last week.

    Finally, Green Bay led the NFC in scoring defense at just 15.0 points per game, and if they hold Atlanta to 17 or even 20 points in this game, the Packers will win.

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    Your speaking out of your head, the sportsbook is not making that number because they think Atlanta will lose, they are simply knowing the market, more Packer faithful, and more people bias to teams such as Green Bay, and New England. They were attracting that market, now the line goes to 2.5, and will later go up to three to even things out. All the sportsbooks care about is the money they will make if both sides get bet 50-50. Atlanta at home is a terrible match up for Green Bay. Atlanta on third down there percentage is 47 percent, Green Bays, 42 percent, fairly even. Atlanta was second in the league in time of possession, green bay was seventh. Turnover ratio +14 for Atlanta, +10 for Green Bay. These teams are fairly even I will give you that, but to bet on Green Bay after they played last week on the road, while Atlanta was resting getting ready for a home game is a square bet. Atlanta was the least penalized team during the regular season, they play smart, no turnover ball, and in the post-season adding the fact that they convert on third down, and also have a great home record, how could you bet Green Bay? Atlanta is going to run the ball down there throat and hit Gonzalez on third down, and drive down the field. Matt Ryan had 6 fourth quarter comebacks this season alone, he knows how to win. He beat a good Baltimore team, beat the saints once on the road, Matt Ryan last time out against Green Bay, 28 attempts, 24 Completions. This defense is not going to shut him down. Michael Turner last time, 110 yards on 23 carries. The best team in the NFC is ATLANTA! Green Bay is going to lose this week, and than I can stop hearing about Aaron Rodgers

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpete1966 View Post
    Born and raised in Wisconsin. Packer fan all my life. Atlanta is going to win this game. The Packers need to have another great running game to have any chance in this one and I don't see that happening again. Rodgers is going to end up one dimensional and won't be able to match score for score with Atlanta. I want the Packers to win but I like money and that's going on Atlanta.
    did you watch the first meeting this year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Seer View Post
    did you watch the first meeting this year?
    yeah they shut down the run, rodgers had rushing yards but no one else did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tshafer View Post
    yeah they shut down the run, rodgers had rushing yards but no one else did.
    i love this myth that everyone believes due to the fact that they like to talk about it on pregame shows
    read these facts:http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-ta...ml#post7672991

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    Im talking about the game Vs Atlanta, they were shut down. I could care less how they run against terrible teams like Detroit. At least the NFC South is a respectable division.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tshafer View Post
    Your speaking out of your head, the sportsbook is not making that number because they think Atlanta will lose, they are simply knowing the market, more Packer faithful, and more people bias to teams such as Green Bay, and New England. They were attracting that market, now the line goes to 2.5, and will later go up to three to even things out. All the sportsbooks care about is the money they will make if both sides get bet 50-50. Atlanta at home is a terrible match up for Green Bay. Atlanta on third down there percentage is 47 percent, Green Bays, 42 percent, fairly even. Atlanta was second in the league in time of possession, green bay was seventh. Turnover ratio +14 for Atlanta, +10 for Green Bay. These teams are fairly even I will give you that, but to bet on Green Bay after they played last week on the road, while Atlanta was resting getting ready for a home game is a square bet. Atlanta was the least penalized team during the regular season, they play smart, no turnover ball, and in the post-season adding the fact that they convert on third down, and also have a great home record, how could you bet Green Bay? Atlanta is going to run the ball down there throat and hit Gonzalez on third down, and drive down the field. Matt Ryan had 6 fourth quarter comebacks this season alone, he knows how to win. He beat a good Baltimore team, beat the saints once on the road, Matt Ryan last time out against Green Bay, 28 attempts, 24 Completions. This defense is not going to shut him down. Michael Turner last time, 110 yards on 23 carries. The best team in the NFC is ATLANTA! Green Bay is going to lose this week, and than I can stop hearing about Aaron Rodgers
    FALSE.

    The Books had to know they would get slammed with heavy Atlanta money with a line of -1, which they indeed have necessitating the rise. If the books really thought that the Falcons were the better team, they would have opened the line at -2.5/-3 to avoid all this early money on the Falcons. And the fact that they line has not hit 3 indicates that they are not terribly worried.

    Also, what exactly is your gripe with Rodgers? He is one of the best quarterbacks in football and may actually still be underrated. And he is DEFINITELY a better QB than Ryan is Again, I am not saying Ryan is bad, He just hasn't reached elite status yet. If you had to ask a QB to carry a team by himself Rodgers would certainly get the nod as he has already done it, Ryan has never been asked to do so.Surely that should be obvious to everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    FALSE.

    The Books had to know they would get slammed with heavy Atlanta money with a line of -1, which they indeed have necessitating the rise. If the books really thought that the Falcons were the better team, they would have opened the line at -2.5/-3 to avoid all this early money on the Falcons. And the fact that they line has not hit 3 indicates that they are not terribly worried.

    Also, what exactly is your gripe with Rodgers? He is one of the best quarterbacks in football and may actually still be underrated. And he is DEFINITELY a better QB than Ryan is Again, I am not saying Ryan is bad, He just hasn't reached elite status yet. If you had to ask a QB to carry a team by himself Rodgers would certainly get the nod as he has already done it, Ryan has never been asked to do so.Surely that should be obvious to everyone.
    Yeah your right, Ryan only had 6 fourth quarter comebacks, he doesn't know how to put a team on his back. You think Ryan has that much more talent than Rodgers? Jennings isn't a bad receiver, actually there receivers are decent except for that drop by jones last week. Matt Ryan is more Elite than Rodgers. 13-3, 18-1 in last 19 home games, thats elite. This packers team is the same team that lose 3-7 to Detroit at HOME! Do you see Matt Ryan losing a game at home to Detroit? You can go ahead and pound Green Bay, but your just going to lose your money, just like everyone else. I thought you would be a lot better at capping this game, i assume your sharp enough to know that Patriots -9 is the play, I assume you are going with the steelers, and probably have thought about the under. And I'm sure you think Chicago will cover, just like I do. I don't understand your logic in capping this game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    I don't have to tell you that the Packers are the best team in the NFC because the sportsbooks were screaming it to you by opening this line at Atlanta -1.
    LT, we agree once again.

    I respect this ATL team. I have bet on this ATL team more than any other this year, and I have done well on them. They have been disrespected by the lines makers all year, IMO.

    Not this time though. GB is the best team in the NFC and won't be an underdog if they play at Chicago next week. I won't even mention Seattle.

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    Atlanta ML is such a solid bet I'm not going to discuss it anymore until this game is final. Atlanta vs New England Super Bowl.

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    Atlanta ML - Easy money!!! Book it now...

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    Already booked, my last paycheck got put on it and I get paid tomorrow, and the whole paycheck will be put in at Aliante Station Casino Las Vegas NEVADA and I will go back on sunday to receive my winnings.

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    You are entirely missing the point.

    Rodgers has won games all by himself. Ryan's success is due to the fact that defenses have to respect the run, which makes his task easier. If you put Rodgers on Atlanta with their running game, no comebacks would be necessary because Rodgers i a better pure passer than Ryan so he offense would be unstoppable.

    And no, this is not the same Packer team that lost to Detroit because the offensive line struggled most of the year including that game, which resulted on Rodgers getting knocked out with a concussion. That line is now the very reason Green Bay is going to the Super Bowl.

    And if you bother to look at some power ratings, you will indeed see that Green Bay is rated first in the NFC, so this line is bot shaded for public perception as you claim

    It seems you are the one that refuses to face reality in handicapping this game..

    As for the other games, only one we agree on is Patriots. I like Ravens at +3.5, although I'd likely pass at +3. And there is no way I'd ever lay double-digits with Jay Cutler in his first ever playoff game. My only lean in that game is the Under.

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    ok LT.. GB it is.. lol.. I know they can stop atl.. was worried about them scoring though.. I am betting the under 44 is a great play, no? and since ATl has so much love no.. you think waiting for a +3 is worth it? or take the 2.5 now?

    Robust

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    Wow really like the under in Chicago after Hasslebacks success? Hmm was leaning the other way, but I'll have to look more into it. I really liked Baltimore, almost took them +3.5 but decided against it and went with Pittsburgh simply because of there success in post-season. And I didn't like how the game started last week vs Kansas City, if there O-line didn't hold up against the chiefs, I'm very scared for the Steelers D. And Chicago -10 was rediculous when I saw that number, but when something seems off to me, I always go the opposite way, last week I was on Seattle +11 and the over pretty heavy, but I don't wanna press my luck with Hassleback. Not saying Cutler will cover the 10 points but the defense might. Only reason I wanted to bet seattle +10 was Lynch, and hoping for a low scoring running game. Patriots number here in vegas already down to 8, opened at 9.5 at my casino. I took them at 9.5 and now at 8, I don't see the Jets winning in Foxboro, or even keeping it close. Honestly I'm probably just lucky but I started with such a little amount of money, and I work at subway so its a joke that I even sports gamle, but I've been so accurate at following trends. Such as Atlanta at home, and Colts in must win games in the regular season. Starting bet NBA teams that have won 5 straight and made good money in that also, I will never bet against Atlanta at home, if that makes me "not facing reality" thats fine, cause I'm 9-1 in the last 10 home games they've played. And if something gives me 90 percent success, im not backing down

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robust View Post
    ok LT.. GB it is.. lol.. I know they can stop atl.. was worried about them scoring though.. I am betting the under 44 is a great play, no? and since ATl has so much love no.. you think waiting for a +3 is worth it? or take the 2.5 now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tshafer View Post
    Wow really like the under in Chicago after Hasslebacks success? Hmm was leaning the other way, but I'll have to look more into it. I really liked Baltimore, almost took them +3.5 but decided against it and went with Pittsburgh simply because of there success in post-season. And I didn't like how the game started last week vs Kansas City, if there O-line didn't hold up against the chiefs, I'm very scared for the Steelers D. And Chicago -10 was rediculous when I saw that number, but when something seems off to me, I always go the opposite way, last week I was on Seattle +11 and the over pretty heavy, but I don't wanna press my luck with Hassleback. Not saying Cutler will cover the 10 points but the defense might. Only reason I wanted to bet seattle +10 was Lynch, and hoping for a low scoring running game. Patriots number here in vegas already down to 8, opened at 9.5 at my casino. I took them at 9.5 and now at 8, I don't see the Jets winning in Foxboro, or even keeping it close. Honestly I'm probably just lucky but I started with such a little amount of money, and I work at subway so its a joke that I even sports gamle, but I've been so accurate at following trends. Such as Atlanta at home, and Colts in must win games in the regular season. Starting bet NBA teams that have won 5 straight and made good money in that also, I will never bet against Atlanta at home, if that makes me "not facing reality" thats fine, cause I'm 9-1 in the last 10 home games they've played. And if something gives me 90 percent success, im not backing down
    Hasselbeck won't have same success against the Bears that he had against New Orleans.I still can't play Bears though. Speaking of 90% trends, quarterbacks making their first ever playoff start (Cutler) are 1-10 ATS as home favorites.

    I just see Steelers game as field goal game either way, so that 1/2 point is valuable.

    No need to add anything to other two games, since we agree on one and have beaten the one we disagree on to death.

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    All i can do is study and hope it works out well. Gonna stick with Atlanta, although you are starting to pull me away. I know how good of a capper you are, so i do respect your opinions obviously, just gonna hope Matt Ryan proves me right! And for the other games, maybe put a little on Seattle +10, but will worry about that saturday night.

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    Glad someone said it. Atl is best team in nfc. And not just last 3 weeks like gb, but all season. A power running game that will control clock and enough rwhite and tgonzalez when it counts. Balance at its best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tshafer View Post
    Yeah your right, Ryan only had 6 fourth quarter comebacks, he doesn't know how to put a team on his back. You think Ryan has that much more talent than Rodgers? Jennings isn't a bad receiver, actually there receivers are decent except for that drop by jones last week. Matt Ryan is more Elite than Rodgers. 13-3, 18-1 in last 19 home games, thats elite. This packers team is the same team that lose 3-7 to Detroit at HOME! Do you see Matt Ryan losing a game at home to Detroit? You can go ahead and pound Green Bay, but your just going to lose your money, just like everyone else. I thought you would be a lot better at capping this game, i assume your sharp enough to know that Patriots -9 is the play, I assume you are going with the steelers, and probably have thought about the under. And I'm sure you think Chicago will cover, just like I do. I don't understand your logic in capping this game.
    Um, the Det7-GB3 game was in DETROIT.

    And, uh, Rodgers was injured in the 2nd quarter. I have Atl too, but if you are going to insult someone's logic, try to have your facts straight.
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    beginning of the season they were favored to win the nfc

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    Going to be a lot of disappointed betters by the end of this game.

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    Atl's offense is about as balanced as they come. Capers will really have to be on his game with his defensive schemes to stop them. A balanced team is always the hardest to plan against. It's going to be a good game.

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    Atlanta is such a bigger city than Green Bay, and Georgia has a bigger population than Wisconsin, so even though the line should be 3.5, you drop it to -1 to get some of that Wisconsin money to be parted from some otherwise closed wallets. Atlanta looks like the smart money here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tshafer View Post
    Falcons at home, Matt Ryan, Michael Turner, Tony Gonzalez, and Roddy White...I'll take that over Rodgers Jenning and Starks. Come on really going to bet against the best Home Team in the NFL, after they rested all week?!? You guys really don't give any respect to a team who was 13-3, has an above average defense, and a Quarterback who has shown all year long that he can do it with no time left on the clock. I am going to be pounding the Falcons -130 Moneyline, because too many of you guys are pounding the Packers. I'll just sit back and win my money
    Falcons win easily pal. Michael Turner will run them out of the building and sent them packing!

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    At 2.5 and below I'm showing a slight lean to ATL. at -3 fuggedabaoutit

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