1. 02-02-20 10:03 PM #1
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    Is Mahomes Already one of the Top QBs ever?

    -Youngest QB to win Superbowl MVP
    -Makes difficult throws look easy in regular season and playoffs
    -He was one offside last year from winning back to back superbowls

    The guy does it all... is he already in the top qb discussion?
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  2. 02-02-20 10:05 PM #2
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    Yep one coin toss away probably from b2b
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  3. 02-02-20 10:06 PM #3
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    Yes
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  4. 02-02-20 10:21 PM #4
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    Yes because Pat Mahomes plays QB like Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers.
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  5. 02-02-20 10:21 PM #5
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    no.
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  6. 02-02-20 10:24 PM #6
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    The numbers don't lie.
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  7. 02-02-20 10:28 PM #7
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    Definitely performs well in big games. That is something that only a handful of QB's in history have done.
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  8. 02-02-20 10:31 PM #8
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    I want to say no, because his age but damn....it’s hard to argue. We have a lot of time to decide, luckily.
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  9. 02-02-20 10:34 PM #9
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    No. He did nothing today
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  10. 02-02-20 10:35 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    No. He did nothing today
    He just beat the "Best" Defense in the NFL and won the MVP of the game.
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  11. 02-02-20 10:36 PM #11
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    IDK. He was going against Garappolo. He won a Super Bowl. That accounts for something !
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  12. 02-02-20 10:38 PM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kermit View Post
    He just beat the "Best" Defense in the NFL and won the MVP of the game.
    Lol okay. You think he deserves MVP throwing two picks and one td?
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  13. 02-02-20 10:44 PM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Lol okay. You think he deserves MVP throwing two picks and one td?
    laker he had two tds passing and he also rushed for a td
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Lol okay. You think he deserves MVP throwing two picks and one td?
    C'mon man. Did you actually watch the game?
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  15. 02-02-20 10:48 PM #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kermit View Post
    C'mon man. Did you actually watch the game?
    Yes. He made the great throw to hill. Other then that he did nothing. The running back Williams deserved MVP
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  16. 02-02-20 10:49 PM #16
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    Books called it in. They weren't going to pay MVP on huge odds
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  17. 02-02-20 10:51 PM #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Books called it in. They weren't going to pay MVP on huge odds
    Yeah, these books that took in shit money on Williams and Big Money on Mahomes called it in to lose their money.
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  18. 02-02-20 10:53 PM #18
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    Mahomes got it because of name recognition. If that was Garoppolo that threw two picks, he wouldn't have gotten it
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  19. 02-02-20 10:54 PM #19
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    He'll go down as one of the best ever. Mobile, throw the ball 80 yards, can take off and run for 40, smart, and a good all around dude. His skillset is very similar to Aaron Rodgers, but I think he does everything a little bit better than Rodgers does.
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  20. 02-02-20 10:55 PM #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by asiagambler View Post
    Mahomes got it because of name recognition. If that was Garoppolo that threw two picks, he wouldn't have gotten it
    Exactly
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  21. 02-02-20 10:55 PM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by asiagambler View Post
    Mahomes got it because of name recognition. If that was Garoppolo that threw two picks, he wouldn't have gotten it
    Garoppolo also wouldn't have tried to run and pick up any first downs, let alone run and score a TD.

    Name recognition
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  22. 02-02-20 10:57 PM #22
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    Tyreek Hill was the MVP of the Super Bowl. KC had no chance of winning without him.
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  23. 02-02-20 10:58 PM #23
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    Kermit you are on the wrong side of this debate. Move on
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  24. 02-02-20 10:59 PM #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghenghis Kahn View Post
    Tyreek Hill was the MVP of the Super Bowl. KC had no chance of winning without him.
    I agree but no chance they would give it to him
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  25. 02-02-20 11:00 PM #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kermit View Post
    Garoppolo also wouldn't have tried to run and pick up any first downs, let alone run and score a TD.

    Name recognition
    What if Mahomes went 21/30 for 256 yards with 1 TD and 1 INT? Is that an automatic MVP in your mind?
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  26. 02-02-20 11:05 PM #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by asiagambler View Post
    What if Mahomes went 21/30 for 256 yards with 1 TD and 1 INT? Is that an automatic MVP in your mind?
    If he did that, the Chiefs wouldn't have won and he wouldn't have gotten the MVP.

    What the Hell is wrong with you?
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  27. 02-02-20 11:06 PM #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Kermit you are on the wrong side of this debate. Move on
    What exactly are you even trying to argue?
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  28. 02-02-20 11:06 PM #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by asiagambler View Post
    What if Mahomes went 21/30 for 256 yards with 1 TD and 1 INT? Is that an automatic MVP in your mind?
    he didnt though? And dont leave out his rush td
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  29. 02-02-20 11:06 PM #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kermit View Post
    If he did that, the Chiefs wouldn't have won and he wouldn't have gotten the MVP.

    What the Hell is wrong with you?
    How do you know they wouldn't have won? There aren't other ways to score touchdowns?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wikkidinsane View Post
    he didnt though? And dont leave out his rush td
    I'm just seeing how he responds is all. I can't ever remember a QB getting Super Bowl MVP with 2 picks
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  31. 02-02-20 11:07 PM #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by asiagambler View Post
    How do you know they wouldn't have won? There aren't other ways to score touchdowns?
    How do I know they wouldn't have won? Because I watched the game.


    Are you living on Bizarro world or some shit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kermit View Post
    How do I know they wouldn't have won? Because I watched the game.


    Are you living on Bizarro world or some shit?
    So it's impossible for Williams to get that 1 extra yard that would have made Mahomes' rushing touchdown unnecessary?

    Why can't you just answer the question instead of deflecting?

    Quarterbacks have won with that stat line before.

    In fact, a quarterback won with that stat line in the Super Bowl so contrary to what you think, it is possible to win with those numbers

    I'm just seeing if you think that's an automatic MVP
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    Quote Originally Posted by asiagambler View Post
    So it's impossible for Williams to get that 1 extra yard that would have made Mahomes' rushing touchdown unnecessary?

    Why can't you just answer the question instead of deflecting?

    Quarterbacks have won with that stat line before.

    In fact, a quarterback won with that stat line in the Super Bowl so contrary to what you think, it is possible to win with those numbers

    I'm just seeing if you think that's an automatic MVP
    Who was more clutch, Mahomes or Willaims?
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  34. 02-02-20 11:20 PM #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kermit View Post
    Who was more clutch, Mahomes or Willaims?
    Mahomes was more clutch

    (That's how you answer a question)
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  35. 02-02-20 11:23 PM #35
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    Mahomes: 286 yards 2 passing TDs 29 yards rushing(technically 44 with a loss of 15 on final play to run clock out) with a rushing TD and he threw 2 picks

    Williams: 104 rushing yards with a TD and 29 receiving yards with a TD

    No sane person is going to give Williams the MVP.
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