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    Is the MLB sample size big enough to start pounding plays?

    Usually wait till June
    What are your observations thus far?

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    Usually takes around 50 games to get a feel for the totals and fades

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    You really only need about 4 good outings for a pitcher but I'd say one solid month of ball is it.

    We crossed that point a couple of weeks ago.

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    So fade KC Baltimore and Miami every chance you can
    Got it!
    Thanks

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    These perpetual cellar dwellers are so far back through mid May they know the long grind of the season is ahead and just roll over

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shute View Post
    So fade KC Baltimore and Miami every chance you can
    Got it!
    Thanks
    Uh, no, not exactly, but sort of.

    All I'm saying is that it's time to start generating the relative performances. Things will change and teams will run streaks but, like you said, if you fade Miami all season long, you just might turn a profit.

    You have to consider the pricing and potential pricing before continuing to fade.

    Here's an example if you were betting the same unit on the teams each game...

    So far this season, fading Baltimore every game which was +30 units and nearly 20% ROI last year, hasn't been so good at just better than +1 unit, depending on the line.

    Did you know that fading the Dodgers every game last year made you nearly 10% ROI and +15 units?

    You have to think about the numbers.

    Fading the Red Sox, or Oakland last year would have cost you nearly 40 units, but fading them this year has you up 8 or 5 units, respectively.

    It's not as clear cut as who is going to win and who is going to lose.

    I'm going to see if I can put something meaningful into some tables here, I have a ton of research, including the performance through April and part of May to see if we have anything.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Uh, no, not exactly, but sort of.

    All I'm saying is that it's time to start generating the relative performances. Things will change and teams will run streaks but, like you said, if you fade Miami all season long, you just might turn a profit.

    You have to consider the pricing and potential pricing before continuing to fade.

    Here's an example if you were betting the same unit on the teams each game...

    So far this season, fading Baltimore every game which was +30 units and nearly 20% ROI last year, hasn't been so good at just better than +1 unit, depending on the line.

    Did you know that fading the Dodgers every game last year made you nearly 10% ROI and +15 units?

    You have to think about the numbers.

    Fading the Red Sox, or Oakland last year would have cost you nearly 40 units, but fading them this year has you up 8 or 5 units, respectively.

    It's not as clear cut as who is going to win and who is going to lose.

    I'm going to see if I can put something meaningful into some tables here, I have a ton of research, including the performance through April and part of May to see if we have anything.

    I see where you are coming from
    KVB you are a numbers guy
    Thanks for input
    In my opinion
    Sometimes feel for the series or instincts are the way to go

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shute View Post
    Usually wait till June
    What are your observations thus far?
    It’s hard to feel really comfortable pounding an MLB game

    Be very patient

    Make sure the numbers and stats make sense

    Never bet on a cold team or a team you think is due

    Why????

    Winning and losing are both contagious

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    You really only need about 4 good outings for a pitcher but I'd say one solid month of ball is it.

    We crossed that point a couple of weeks ago.
    Most have numbers going back several years, we know plenty early about 85% of the players so more than enough to work w to fire right out the gates. No interest in waiting till some arbitrary day to start.

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    began SOS already

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    began SOS already
    Sammy knows. The season has officially begun.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shute View Post
    Usually wait till June
    What are your observations thus far?
    June 1st


    time to go to pound town
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    great opps. but pound town is truly in august when so many teams have given up. but the fades you mentioned have already given up. just don't fade them when they face an opponent under .500.

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