[jjgold]

A lot of product development is based on reviews

[2daBank]

bro i own/run a business

it pisses me the fukk off when someone is always bitching

but then i think................................

i would rather someone tell me their concerns than just not come back

im sure mods hate me because i give criticism

it isnt meant to be mean, just hoping to improve

but seriously...no more fukkin sbr world cup poker

Customer always right Rudy. When me and LK the customers anyways, im sure you deal w lots of fuckin idiots!!

[KVB]

Rocking the Classic with sound and piping it through the big screen sound bar.

Wife says it sounds like a hospital in here. Told her it was our bankroll on life support.

She was not amused.

Takes a special woman to be married to a gambler. Even as a disciplined marksman, imagine what she has gone through over the years.

A special woman indeed.

I been gambling hereabouts for ten good solid years,
If I told you all that went down it would burn off both of your ears.
Goes to show you don't ever know
Watch each card you play and play it slow,

[jjgold]

What would it take for some of you guys to switch the new version odds???

[SlickFazzer]

Bump for tracking.

[SBR Forum]

Love classic with sound. Good shit.

If SBR moves on from classic, I might put the new one in it's place on one of the screens. But each time I try that, I just go back to classic. I don't need all the click to bet options, just like the compact basic info classic offers.

I could adapt, but there isn't much need.

We are working on an update making the default grid functionality click to open line history. Track Bets will be an optional feature that you'd click a button to activate and remap the odd to the bet tracking functionality.

[KVB]

We are working on an update making the default grid functionality click to open line history. Track Bets will be an optional feature that you'd click a button to activate and remap the odd to the bet tracking functionality.

I was messing with it a bunch earlier. It's really not too big of a deal. Clicking the the chart icon really does give us a decent line history with the ability to scroll right for the more books.

I noticed that if we scroll the books on the main page, then click the chart icon on the left to get line history, we have to scroll to the left again to get to the books down the line.

It's not terrible, but something to bring up.

Also, setting our preferred sportsbooks will solve some of this I'm sure. I'll mess with settings later.

Regardless, I'm slowly using the new version and trying to get used to it.

SBR has done well with the odds page, always have.

[juicername]

Why would anyone look at SBR odds anyway. All games are a coin flip anyway, do not waste your time.

[jjgold]

use the new version

we eventually will not support older version

[KVB]

use the new version

we eventually will not support older version

[The General]

Odds and sports book about to go big time. Wish I had a piece of the action. Instant financial bomb. Tremendous idea. FTR, I'm taking credit, too. Suggested this to John and Ken over lunch in April 2006. John was listening too. His eyes opened wide he sort of played it off, but he was nervous that I may make it happen before SBR. I failed, John took the bull by the horns. Kudos in order.

[Grits n' Gravy]

bro i own/run a business

it pisses me the fukk off when someone is always bitching

but then i think................................

i would rather someone tell me their concerns than just not come back

im sure mods hate me because i give criticism

it isnt meant to be mean, just hoping to improve

but seriously...no more fukkin sbr world cup poker

Collecting bottles and cans out of trash isn’t owning a business.

[SBR Forum]

I was messing with it a bunch earlier. It's really not too big of a deal. Clicking the the chart icon really does give us a decent line history with the ability to scroll right for the more books.

I noticed that if we scroll the books on the main page, then click the chart icon on the left to get line history, we have to scroll to the left again to get to the books down the line.

It's not terrible, but something to bring up.

Also, setting our preferred sportsbooks will solve some of this I'm sure. I'll mess with settings later.

Regardless, I'm slowly using the new version and trying to get used to it.

SBR has done well with the odds page, always have.

We appreciate the feedback, keep it coming.

What you mentioned about going to page two and opening line history and having to scroll again is something we've considered. One solution is to always see the first book that's visible, so you go into page two and if book XYZ is the first you see, when clicking line history we can show that book highlighted first. Either way we will restore the click to touch line history & maintain the slider of books.

[cincinnatikid513]

how bout a golf forum to take the place of the dead arena football

[KVB]

We appreciate the feedback, keep it coming.

What you mentioned about going to page two and opening line history and having to scroll again is something we've considered. One solution is to always see the first book that's visible, so you go into page two and if book XYZ is the first you see, when clicking line history we can show that book highlighted first. Either way we will restore the click to touch line history & maintain the slider of books.

Yeah, just have it keep pace with the lines of the books that are currently on the main page.

I'll start going into my own settings there and play around some more.

Thanks for working on it.

That optional sound is a nice feature too. There are slower times in some markets where it's been useful to me, that's for sure.

[jjgold]

still a little too much wasted space on top....too many gaps

We will tighten it up

[Mr. Teaser]

use the new version

we eventually will not support older version

No No No No No....

[jjgold]

It’s basically the same thing

[KVB]

Why would anyone look at SBR odds anyway. All games are a coin flip anyway, do not waste your time.

The SBR odds page is good scoreboard and can also provide readily accessible market history form mulitple books going back some time.

There's value there.

[Mr. Teaser]

It’s basically the same thing

It really isn't. You know it and I know it. The feedback you have gotten tells you that. It's just your job to spin it that way which I can respect.

[jjgold]

Teaser what is the difference why you will not switch???

[SlickFazzer]

this is a flag ship type product.

[jjgold]

yes fazzer

[Mr. Teaser]

Teaser what is the difference why you will not switch???

You can simply fit more games on the screen and its more compact than even the new compact version but I'm not telling you anything you don't already know and heard.

I have this page up always and jump back and forth to it non stop as I have other sites up gathering information on upcoming games. Of the 2, It is simply the more efficient site.

Don't get me wrong. I always see big picture in everything. SBR has provided an awesome odd/scores site for us free of charge. For that I am appreciative. It is probably my most viewed site in the internet.

Now I answered your question please answer mine. Why have you guys pushed this on us so hard? This situation is different than "people don't like change". From the very beginning many haven't liked it with sound reasons. You take a break on the feedback, like you did this time, only to come back and try to "persuade" us all over again.

What does it matter which version we use? Most times as with everything it's about the money. Will it be easier to implement ways to pull more $ off the page in the future? I can respect that. If not, why does it matter?

[jjgold]

let me forward that great response to mngt

[OlDirtyBaztid]

You can simply fit more games on the screen and its more compact than even the new compact version but I'm not telling you anything you don't already know and heard.

I have this page up always and jump back and forth to it non stop as I have other sites up gathering information on upcoming games. Of the 2, It is simply the more efficient site.

Don't get me wrong. I always see big picture in everything. SBR has provided an awesome odd/scores site for us free of charge. For that I am appreciative. It is probably my most viewed site in the internet.

Now I answered your question please answer mine. Why have you guys pushed this on us so hard? This situation is different than "people don't like change". From the very beginning many haven't liked it with sound reasons. You take a break on the feedback, like you did this time, only to come back and try to "persuade" us all over again.

What does it matter which version we use? Most times as with everything it's about the money. Will it be easier to implement ways to pull more $ off the page in the future? I can respect that. If not, why does it matter?

ask covers how that worked when they switched their forum layout without listening to feedback from the users. they also thought they knew what was better than the people who posted there. you are right on the money here, man

[KVB]

Tremendous thread here.

[Mr. Teaser]

Tremendous thread here.

Tremendous for some but for most of us we are just sheep in this.

We aren't privy to the inner workings of SBR. It's obvious they have a strong agenda here but will not really say why.

I can tell you this.... they brought JJ, SBR online legend persona, here to push for it (much like he is brought in to defend certain books when they are questioned) and now with the addition of influential poster #1, KVB to tell us how he is slowly switching over, I see the direction its headed. You use a similar formula for other situations like this. Your strategy is clear but please let us in on why it's so important?


Once again, big picture, this site is great. Your contests, sportsbook and odds pages have treated me, as well as many others, well. I am grateful but just a bit curious.

[KVB]

Interesting Teaser. Make no mistake, I like classic, I say it all the time.

Gold mentioned it, we all know it, it's different...that white space and I like the classic scoreboard format.

I was just being honest in saying I would put it up and try it out, no real agenda there, more of personal decision. I have not fully bought into switching.

Sometimes we have to get used to things and can't help but think one day classic is phased out.

Still love me some classic for sure, sound and all.

[KVB]

Also Teaser, I forgot to mention that when posted "Tremendous thread here" it was in response to posts # 94, 95, and 96.

My post was 97.

I think you get where I'm coming from, I certainly get where you're coming from.

[Mr. Teaser]

Also Teaser, I forgot to mention that when posted "Tremendous thread here" it was in response to posts # 94, 95, and 96.

My post was 97.

I think you get where I'm coming from, I certainly get where you're coming from.

Gotcha and understood. I have nothing but respect for you as a poster. You are not about drama or bs just substance and most feel this way. I just worry that SBR knows this so they have you working for them in situations such as this but your point is clear. All good.

[jjgold]

I got tremendous pressure on me for this product to work

We’re going to tweak this more to get it the way the posters like it

[KVB]

[Mr. Teaser]

I got tremendous pressure on me for this product to work

We’re going to tweak this more to get it the way the posters like it

Yea but why? Why would the pressure be on you? Why does it matter what version we use?

Once again I ask....in the future will SBR be able to make more $ off the new odds page? Otherwise what difference does it make?

[KVB]

I'm guessing that SBR figures they can make more by gaining more users in the future because of the added functionality and features that many of us don't need but others like or want.

They may be banking on being an industry leader moving forward and need to have the evolving product to meet the needs of the newer generation of users, so many of them mobile anymore.

Of course, those of us who've been here like what we like.

I'm also guessing that the focus on this odds page is for mobile users, but it could be both.