[The Kraken]

That really is low thing to say about a successful man such as Trump. Really, a simple Dem way of insulting, nothing more.

Pot meet kettle

[brainfreeze]

Jesus. That does look bad. What awful choices we have

Here.... Meet the clintons

it goes a lot further, he's assaulted women all his life, then look into the mena connection... Where was his top candidate wife, at home baking cookies? Vote trump...the corruption chariot is trying to roll back in town, don't let it happen, will be much worse on this whorah...

[The Kraken]

Here.... Meet the clintons

it it goes a lot further, he's assaulted women all his life, then look into the mena connection... Where was his top candidate wife, at home baking cookies? Vote trump...the corruption chariot is trying to roll back in town, don't let it happen, will be much worse on this whorah...

Until you criticize the RNC for their deception, until you hold Trump accountable for his shortcomings, his lies, his flip flopping, his bigotry,etc.... I don't want to hear a peep from you about the Clintons

It is incumbent upon you to hold YOUR candidate accountable first, not to tear down HRC

In fact, being a man of the bible (so you claim), you might want to judge a little less, per Matthew 7:5

How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ while there is still a beam in your own eye? 5You hypocrite! First take the beamout of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from yourbrother’s eye. 6Do not give dogs what is holy; do not throw your pearls before swine. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces.…

[brainfreeze]

Until you criticize the RNC for their deception, until you hold Trump accountable for his shortcomings, his lies, his flip flopping, his bigotry,etc.... I don't want to hear a peep from you about the Clintons

It is incumbent upon you to hold YOUR candidate accountable first, not to tear down HRC

In fact, being a man of the bible (so you claim), you might want to judge a little less, per Matthew 7:5

How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ while there is still a beam in your own eye? 5You hypocrite! First take the beamout of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from yourbrother’s eye. 6Do not give dogs what is holy; do not throw your pearls before swine. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces.…

Always resorting to attacking the person instead of the FACTS, show us trump doing half (even a quarter) of what the dirt work the clintons have, we are all ears...move around kraken...

[chico2663]

Always resorting to attacking the person instead of the FACTS, show us trump doing half (even a quarter) of what the dirt work the clintons have, we are all ears...move around kraken...

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...andals/474726/

[brainfreeze]

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...andals/474726/

Your going to have to do better then a few business deals chico

[grease lightnin]

This is going to be the ugliest, mudslinginest election of all times.

Both candidates' closets have so many skeletons, they can barely shut the door.

[brainfreeze]

This is going to be the ugliest, mudslinginest election of all times.

Both candidates' closets have so many skeletons, they can barely shut the door.

True, but at least Donald doesn't close the door, and cheat on his wife... He does a more honorable thing and just divorces them, it's in your face, he isn't hiding from his mistakes... He's not perfect, no where close, but compared to clintons... He's a choir boy...

Just look at the pardons and bad policy enforced that they gave their friends, (clintons have a long history & can be tracked in politics) look at how they abused power for personal gain, made a whore of the White House ... Honestly, I'd vote kanye (if I could) for prez before her, she's smarter than kanye and will do more destruction than anyone in history of the presidency... She's a heavy supporter of eugenics and a lot of pure evil concepts... Trump is by far the better candidate..

get the apple out of Eve's hand....

[The Kraken]

Always resorting to attacking the person instead of the FACTS, show us trump doing half (even a quarter) of what the dirt work the clintons have, we are all ears...move around kraken...

Quit using the idea of an ad hominem to hide behind your own stupidity

You're fukking right that I'm going after you because after all, it is important to consider the source.

Just like when someone posts "Alex Jones said this, Hannity said that", you know to take it with a grain of salt because those two have proven to be biased and illogical fearmongerers, much like yourself.

Now, lets address how you follow the word of god when it's convenient for you and disregard it when it's not.

Re-read Matthew 7:5 and judge yourself before you judge anyone else. You're house is a mess and you're telling your neighbor to cut their lawn

Must be nice to be just Christian enough to think you're going to heaven but not so much that you actually have to sacrifice your hedonistic ways

[brainfreeze]

Quit using the idea of an ad hominem to hide behind your own stupidity

You're fukking right that I'm going after you because after all, it is important to consider the source.

Just like when someone posts "Alex Jones said this, Hannity said that", you know to take it with a grain of salt because those two have proven to be biased and illogical fearmongerers, much like yourself.

Now, lets address how you follow the word of god when it's convenient for you and disregard it when it's not.

Re-read Matthew 7:5 and judge yourself before you judge anyone else. You're house is a mess and you're telling your neighbor to cut their lawn

Must be nice to be just Christian enough to think you're going to heaven but not so much that you actually have to sacrifice your hedonistic ways

the only reason you (try) to attack me is because you've got no legs when it comes to facts, you're like a bully, a spoiled bully ... Doesn't get his way so he lashes out, the facts don't agree with your perception or political views ..what does he do, lashes out. I'm not perfect but compared to who I was, it's night and day...and I was dumb, green to the real premeditated evil that has grasped our country and some of these people who make policy and pass themselves off as honorable humans. If someone wants to get on a podium for prez, your life will be on trial and even if you didn't have a great past, as long as your record of change of heart is observable, it will show.. The clintons record show where they were and where they are ... The only changes are for the worse obviously...

[chico2663]

The dirt:The Boston Globe’s Matt Viser reports on the mess of the American Dream pageant in 1992. After years of attending beauty pageants—Trump seems to have always enjoyed the company of beautiful, scantily clad women—he decided he wanted to get in on the business himself, meeting with George Houraney and Jill Harth, a couple that ran the American Dream pageant. It was an ill-fated effort. Harth and Houraney alleged that Trump started making passes at her almost immediately. On one occasion, Trump allegedly asked them to bring some models to a party. Harth alleges Trump groped her at the party. In a limo afterwards, another model said she heard him say that “all women are bimbos” and most “gold diggers.” Trump reportedly joined another model in bed, uninvited, late at night. On other occasions, he forced Harth into bedrooms and made passes at her, she said. But after the contest, Trump broke off dealings. Harth sued Trump, alleging sexual misbehavior, while the couple together sued him for breach of contract. In the suit, they also alleged that Trump had kept black women out of the pageant.

[chico2663]

The dirt: The Department of Justice sued Trump and his father Fred in 1973 for housing discrimination at 39 sites around New York. “The government contended that Trump Management had refused to rent or negotiate rentals ‘because of race and color,’” The New York Times reported. “It also charged that the company had required different rental terms and conditions because of race and that it had misrepresented to blacks that apartments were not available.” Trump called the accusations “absolutely ridiculous.”
The upshot: The Trumps hired attorney Roy Cohn, who had worked for Joe McCarthy and whom Michael Kinsley once indelibly labeled “innocent of a variety of federal crimes.” They sued the Justice Department for $100 million. In the end, however, the Trumps settled with the government, promising not to discriminate and submitting to regular review by the New York Urban League—though crucially not admitting guilt.
Read more: The New York Times, The Washington Post

[chico2663]

The dirt: Trump has been linked to the mafia many times over the years, with varying degrees of closeness. Many of the connections seem to be the sorts of interactions with mobsters that were inevitable for a guy in the construction and casino businesses at the time. For example, organized crime controlled the 1980s New York City concrete business, so that anyone building in the city likely brushed up against it. While Trump has portrayed himself as an unwitting participant, not everyone agrees. There have been a string of other allegations, too, many reported by investigative journalist Wayne Barrett. Cohn, Trump’s lawyer, also represented the Genovese crime family boss Tony Salerno. Barrett also reported a series of transactions involving organized crime, and alleged that Trump paid twice market rate to a mob figure for the land under Trump Plaza in Atlantic City. Michael Isikoff has also reported that Trump was close to Robert LiButti, an associate of John Gotti, inviting him on his yacht and helicopter. In one case, Trump’s company bought LiButti nine luxury cars.

[chico2663]

The dirt: In 2005, the Trump announced an eponymous “university” to teach his real-estate development secrets. Students ponied up as much as $35,000—some after being suckered in by slick free “seminars”—to learn how to get rich. One ad promised they would “learn from Donald Trump’s handpicked instructors, and that participants would have access to Trump’s real estate ‘secrets.’” In fact, Trump had little to do with the curriculum or the instructors. Many of the “students” have since complained that Trump U. was a scam. At one time, it had some prestigious instructors, but over time the “faculty” became a motley bunch of misfits. (It was also never really a “university” by any definition, and it changed its name to the “Trump Entrepreneur Initiative,” because as it happened, the school was violating New York law by operating without an educational license.)

[chico2663]

The scoop: In 1981, Trump scooped up a building on Central Park South, reasoning that the existing structure was a dump, but the land it was on would be a great place for luxury condos. Trump’s problem was that the existing tenants were—understandably and predictably—unwilling to let go of their rent-controlled apartments on Central Park. Trump used every trick in the book to get them out. He tried to reverse exceptions the previous landlord had given to knock down walls, threatening eviction. Tenants said he cut off heat and hot water. Building management refused to make repairs; two tenants swore in court that mushrooms grew on their carpet from a leak. Perhaps Trump’s most outlandish move was to place newspaper ads offering to house homeless New Yorkers in empty units—since, as Trump wrote in The Art of the Deal, he didn’t intend to fill units with permanent residents anyway. City officials turned him down, saying the idea did not seem appropriate. Typically, Trump also sued tenants for $150 million when they complained.

[chico2663]

• In the late 1980s, after insisting that his major qualification to build a new casino in Atlantic City was that he wouldn’t need to use junk bonds, Trump used junk bonds to build Trump Taj Mahal. He built the casino, but couldn’t keep up with interest payments, so his company declared bankruptcy in 1991. He had to sell his yacht, his airline, and half his ownership in the casino.
• A year later, another of Trump’s Atlantic City casinos, the Trump Plaza, went bust after losing more than $550 million. Trump gave up his stake but otherwise insulated himself personally from losses, and managed to keep his CEO title, even though he surrendered any salary or role in day-to-day operations. By the time all was said and done, he had some $900 million in personal debt.
• Trump bounced back over the following decade, but by 2004, Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts was $1.8 billion in debt. The company filed for bankruptcy and emerged as Trump Entertainment Resorts. Trump himself was the chairman of the new company, but he no longer had a controlling stake in it.
• Five years later, after the real-estate collapse, Trump Entertainment Resorts once again went bankrupt. Trump resigned from the board, but the company retained his name. In 2014, he successfully sued to take his name off the company and its casinos—one of which had already closed, and the other of which was near closing.

[DwightShrute]

deflect away

[chico2663]

The dirt: In order to construct his signature Trump Tower, the builder first had to demolish the Bonwit Teller store, an architecturally beloved Art Deco edifice. The work had to be done fast, and so managers hired 200 undocumented Polish workers to tear it down, paying them substandard wages for backbreaking work—$5 per hour, when they were paid at all. The workers didn’t wear hard hats and often slept at the site. When the workers complained about their back pay, they were allegedly threatened with deportation. Trump said he was unaware that illegal immigrants were working at the site.
The upshot: In 1991, a federal judge found Trump and other defendants guiltyof conspiring to avoid paying union pension and welfare contributions for the workers. The decision was appealed, with partial victories for both sides, and ultimately settled privately in 1999. In a February GOP debate, Marco Rubiobrought up the story to accuse Trump of hypocrisy in his stance on illegal immigration.
Read more: Michael Daly, The New York Times

[chico2663]

The dirt: While married to Ivana Trump, Donald Trump became angry at her—according to a book by Harry Hurt, over a painful scalp-reduction surgery—and allegedly forcibly had sex with her. Ivana Trump said during a deposition in their divorce case that she “felt violated” and that her husband had raped her. Later, Ivana Trump released a statement saying: “During a deposition given by me in connection with my matrimonial case, I stated that my husband had raped me. [O]n one occasion during 1989, Mr. Trump and I had marital relations in which he behaved very differently toward me than he had during our marriage. As a woman, I felt violated, as the love and tenderness, which he normally exhibited towards me, was absent. I referred to this as a ‘rape,’ but I do not want my words to be interpreted in a literal or criminal sense.”

[chico2663]

The dirt: Trump has been repeatedly fined for breaking rules related to his operation of casinos. In 1990, with Trump Taj Mahal in trouble, Trump’s father Fred strolled in and bought 700 chips worth a total of $3.5 million. The purchase helped the casino pay debt that was due, but because Fred Trump had no plans to gamble, the New Jersey gaming commission ruled that it was a loan that violated operating rules. Trump paid a $30,000 fine; in the end, the loan didn’t prevent a bankruptcy the following year. As noted above, New Jersey also fined Trump $200,000 for arranging to keep black employees away from mafioso Robert LiButti’s gambling table. In 1991, the Casino Control Commission fined Trump’s company another $450,000 for buying LiButti nine luxury cars. And in 2000, Trump was fined $250,000 for breaking New York state law in lobbying to prevent an Indian casino from opening in the Catskills, for fear it would compete against his Atlantic City casinos.
The upshot: Trump admitted no wrongdoing in the New York case. He’s now out of the casino business.

[chico2663]

The dirt: In 1986, Trump decided he wanted to expand his casino empire in Atlantic City. His plan was to mount a hostile takeover of two casino companies, Holiday and Bally. Trump started buying up stock in the companies with an eye toward gaining control. But Bally realized what was going on and sued him for antitrust violations. “Trump hopes to wrest control of Bally from its public shareholders without paying them the control premium they otherwise could command had they been adequately informed of Trump's intentions,” the company argued.

[DwightShrute]

[brainfreeze]

why Dwight? Most of your memes are pretty good... This one

[lakerboy]

Chico seriously?

[chico2663]

The dirt: Trump was heavily involved in condo hotels, a pre-real-estate crash fixation in which people would buy units that they’d only use for a portion of the year. The rest of the time, the units would be rented out as hotel rooms, with the developer and the owner sharing the profit. For a variety of reasons, condo hotels turned out to be a terrible idea. The result has been a slew of lawsuits by condo buyers who claim they were bilked. Central to many of these is the question of what Trump’s role in the projects was. In recent years, Trump has often essentially sold his name rights to developers—he gets a payoff, and they get the aura of luxury his name imparts. But in some of the condo-hotel suits, buyers complain that they bought the properties as investments because of his imprimatur, only to realize he was barely involved. (Similar complaints have been made about his involvement in a multilevel marketing scheme.)
The upshot: In the case of Trump SoHo, in Manhattan, Trump’s partners turned out to have a lengthy criminal past. Trump said he didn’t know that, but—atypically—settled a lawsuit with buyers (while, typically, not admitting any wrongdoing). Another, Trump International Hotel & Tower Fort Lauderdale, went into foreclosure, and Trump has sued the complex’s developer. In 2013, hesettled a suit with prospective buyers who lost millions when a development in Baja Mexico went under. Trump blamed the developers again, saying he had only licensed his name.
Read more: Los Angeles Times, The New York Times, ibid., The Wall Street Journal

[brainfreeze]

[chico2663]

Chico seriously?

Replying to brain freeze. there are over 20 more that this guy has done. But i'll quit. I think I made my point

[DwightShrute]

[grease lightnin]

Plagarizers are not a protected group.


Where is your buddy brooks?

[recon1]

You gotta love atheist who resort to scripture. Is this proof a liberal atheist has lost a debate? i think so.

[The Kraken]

Brooks

He could no longer keep up

Now he gets to reset and come back and play dumb

I've seen bitches get shanked for less

[The Kraken]

You gotta love atheist who resort to scripture. Is this proof a liberal atheist has lost a debate? i think so.

Just holding people to the standard they hold others to

[recon1]

Just holding people to the standard they hold others to

The scripture was taken out of context. In politics you are airing your dirty laundry or trying to hide it. A person seeking a civil servant job at the elected level is fair game to discuss the good, bad and ugly.

[Jayvegas420]

Why dont you put it into context for us recon!

[The Kraken]

The scripture was taken out of context. In politics you are airing your dirty laundry or trying to hide it. A person seeking a civil servant job at the elected level is fair game to discuss the good, bad and ugly.

Thats a nice personal interpretation, and conveniently it skirts the passage

The bible also warns against personal interpretations of passages