[chico2663]

Seems a bunch of the bengals went to eat saturday night in cleveland. The brown fans kept talking shit and flashing the money sign. The bengals players did a silent stew. So every time they made a play; they flashed the money sign. WIsh i would of known that before the game. I guess people are giving Merle Hodge his due. If you remember he said that Johnny Football was at best a 6th round draft pick.

[Lazy-Man]

Everyone knew he wouldn't do well. Way too small. And he had a beast o line and best WR at Texas A&M.

[unusialsusp5]

a lot of people knew and bet cincinnati and teased cincinnati and all that was discussed on 3 threads here sunday. too bad if you missed out or got sucked in by the manziel hype.

[thebestthereis]

if you cannot throw from the pocket consistently u will not succeed in the nfl, period. wilson has a great running back, the best defense and is an aberration. he will eventually wear down. his numbers are not that good. manziere is not going to work as a franchise qb in the nfl, ever. he will be a circus act for a bit so enjoy it while it lasts.

[Sam Odom]

that's the problem... Johnny is too short to be a pocket passer

[jjgold]

Excellent post and so true

if you cannot throw from the pocket consistently u will not succeed in the nfl, period. wilson has a great running back, the best defense and is an aberration. he will eventually wear down. his numbers are not that good. manziere is not going to work as a franchise qb in the nfl, ever. he will be a circus act for a bit so enjoy it while it lasts.

[chico2663]

i had season tixs to bungals for 13 yrs so i was waiting for marvin to pull his marvin!

[goduke]

Judge on one game...nice. How bout the fact that the rest of his team didn't show up? Receivers dropping balls, defense not trying, coordinator being so predictable with his play calls. Now who knows if he will succeed but if losers like Ryan Fitzpatrick and josh mccown can start in this league manziel can be better then those by far

[Monitor-Tan]

that's the problem... Johnny is too short to be a pocket passer

That's what they said about Drew Brees

[cburland10]

Judge on one game...nice. How bout the fact that the rest of his team didn't show up? Receivers dropping balls, defense not trying, coordinator being so predictable with his play calls. Now who knows if he will succeed but if losers like Ryan Fitzpatrick and josh mccown can start in this league manziel can be better then those by far

defense gave up? I think for being on the field 90% of the game they did ok.

[jtoler]

Its not necessarily his height I dont think he can make NFL throws bottom line and to be able to read defenses, pull the trigger quick enough, have a strong enough arm and also be accurate is asking too much of him, but thats whats needed and I dont see it in him. Which is why I dont know why he was drafted 1st round, NFL has always been against everything he has to offer yet they draft him 1st round. In college if you dont see a guy sitting in the pocket being able to throw 25 times from the pocket and win games from the pocket why are you high on him doesnt make sense.

[Sam Odom]

That's what they said about Drew Brees

we'll see about Johnny

[goduke]

defense gave up? I think for being on the field 90% of the game they did ok.

they didnt make one stop the first couple drives. After that whatever the defense did do was a moot point because the game was well over