1. 08-21-13 03:53 PM #1
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    Talk me out of betting the Cubs tonight?

    I can't believe I am actually considering betting these hamburgers, however I like Arrieta in this spot.

    I can't remember the last time I actually bet these clowns in cleats?
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  2. 08-21-13 04:09 PM #2
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    I don't know, Nasher. I thought I bet the Brewers and Mets at good prices as home dogs today, and they crashed and burned. My head is telling me to take the night off after the public raping this afternoon.
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  3. 08-21-13 04:18 PM #3
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    under 24.5 H+R+E is very nice in the marlins game
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  4. 08-21-13 04:21 PM #4
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    If you go by his 2 starts with the Cubs you can bet him if you go with his whole history remember this guy has the 2nd highest ERA with starter having at least 350 innings since 2010. If you think the change of scenery changed his pitching then bet but only on that fact.
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  5. 08-21-13 04:24 PM #5
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    laying even the smallest juice for a cubs win just feels so wrong....I would rather take stros
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  6. 08-21-13 04:36 PM #6
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    The nats can't hit and if they can't hit they can't win.
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  7. 08-21-13 04:44 PM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by strat1x View Post
    The nats can't hit and if they can't hit they can't win.
    And they ain't starting Stras or Gio, or Zimmy, or even Haren.
    They are starting a pitcher who hasn't started in a month, and hasn't touched a rawhide in 3 weeks.
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  8. 08-21-13 04:55 PM #8
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    I am on Wash that's all you need no nashy
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  9. 08-21-13 04:57 PM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyTall View Post
    under 24.5 H+R+E is very nice in the marlins game
    Didnt Eovaldi give up 9 runs in 3 innings last game? To the Giants of all teams
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  10. 08-21-13 05:06 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by riffraff24 View Post
    Didnt Eovaldi give up 9 runs in 3 innings last game? To the Giants of all teams
    he did but the dodgers have never seen him before. in his other games hes been solid. mattingly emptied his bullpen last night cause he knows greinke will be an ox tonight. i like a 4-1 type game
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  11. 08-21-13 05:23 PM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyTall View Post
    under 24.5 H+R+E is very nice in the marlins game
    Yeah a lot of my sharper friends are on this 'under', their lean being Eovaldi is facing his former team, understands some of the LAD hitting tendencies and has something to prove to his former team. Greinke has been an absolute stud on the road recently, and has had great command of his off-speed pitches, his fastball has been elevated too in terms of MPH. Kind of wish I had put this on my list instead of last nights under with Turner on the mound, gl.

    And nice Phantasm reference with that avatar heh.
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  12. 08-21-13 05:25 PM #12
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    Steve..Don't bet the Cubs tonight..Why? It's the Cubs!
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  13. 08-21-13 05:26 PM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    I can't believe I am actually considering betting these hamburgers, however I like Arrieta in this spot.

    I can't remember the last time I actually bet these clowns in cleats?
    Yeah I remember this Ohlen-clown when he pitched for the Padres last year in several spot starts and he was absolute fade material for the latter portion of the year, especially on the road. Interestingly enough he seems like he's been better in his spot starts this year. I agree however, its hard to back a Cubs team w/ juice that has lost 10 of its last 12 home games. Maybe the books know something here lol.

    GL Nash.
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  14. 08-21-13 05:26 PM #14
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    Bet the cubs! Arrieta will shut down washingtons lineup
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  15. 08-21-13 05:27 PM #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jago2008 View Post
    Yeah a lot of my sharper friends are on this 'under', their lean being Eovaldi is facing his former team, understands some of the LAD hitting tendencies and has something to prove to his former team.
    90% of this team wasnt even on the team when Eovaldi pitched for the Dodgers. Even the hitting coach is different so not sure which "hitting tendencies" you're referring to.
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  16. 08-21-13 05:28 PM #16
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    Arrieta has looked really good in his two starts. I know his past numbers were bad, but dude does have good stuff. Game is a crapshoot. GL
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    Quote Originally Posted by riffraff24 View Post
    90% of this team wasnt even on the team when Eovaldi pitched for the Dodgers. Even the hitting coach is different so not sure which "hitting tendencies" you're referring to.
    Bro he was on the team most of 2012, not much has changed significantly sans Puig and Crawford. This schmuck was also drafted by the Dodgers, I mean that's not going to mean he's going to blow by hitters, but I know this guy circled this start. I'm just avoiding totals in this series after last night, just my two-cents.
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  18. 08-21-13 06:03 PM #18
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    they are better dogs to bet on than the cubs
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  19. 08-21-13 06:05 PM #19
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    Junior lake over 2 hits/runs/RBI +155
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    So u gonna bet em or no?
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  21. 08-21-13 07:10 PM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gus Fring View Post
    So u gonna bet em or no?
    I did
    105 to win 100
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    Goodluck.
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  23. 08-21-13 07:17 PM #23
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    ^
    Appreciate it.
    I just like the match up, feels right.
    Some of this 'capping thing is based on 'feel
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  24. 08-21-13 07:17 PM #24
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    The reason not to bet the Cubs is the reason we all know, as you alluded to in the first post, they're the Cubs. GL to you Nash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyTall View Post
    under 24.5 H+R+E is very nice in the marlins game

    3 errors by this pathetic marlins team leads to dodgers 3 runs. evoildi pitching great just allowing 2 hits thru 4 innings but dodgers score 3 times because of the AA marlins defense
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  26. 08-21-13 07:29 PM #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by bubblebuttluv View Post
    The reason not to bet the Cubs is the reason we all know, as you alluded to in the first post, they're the Cubs. GL to you Nash.
    Every team will win 60 games, and every team will lose 60 games every season.
    See where I am going here? This is one of the at least 60 wins for the Cubs tonight
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  27. 08-21-13 07:29 PM #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyTall View Post
    3 errors by this pathetic marlins team leads to dodgers 3 runs. evoildi pitching great just allowing 2 hits thru 4 innings but dodgers score 3 times because of the AA marlins defense
    did you take the marlins ?
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  28. 08-21-13 07:29 PM #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyTall View Post
    3 errors by this pathetic marlins team leads to dodgers 3 runs. evoildi pitching great just allowing 2 hits thru 4 innings but dodgers score 3 times because of the AA marlins defense
    Only time to bet Miami is with the wonder Cuban.
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  29. 08-21-13 07:32 PM #29
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    no i took the under 24..........was sailing right along and then ed lucas makes a bunch of mistakes on routine stuff. i swear you would think the marlins would be playing for contracts but they just suc so bad
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    yeah that one guy got on base and it was like all hell broke loose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie103 View Post
    yeah that one guy got on base and it was like all hell broke loose.
    doesnt help that logan morrison cant make a play at first base, ever. i rarely take team defense into consideration when capping baseball but i might start
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  32. 08-21-13 07:48 PM #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyTall View Post
    doesnt help that logan morrison cant make a play at first base, ever. i rarely take team defense into consideration when capping baseball but i might start
    Up the middle defense has to be factored in to your handicapping. C-2B-SS-CF
    A good up the middle makes a decent ground ball pitcher good, and good one great.
    A good up the middle defense can save a GB pitcher 3 hits a game.
    All the super teams had superb up the middle defenses.

    1984 Tigers
    Trammel, Whitaker, Lemon, Parrish

    Dan Petry does not win 18 games without them that year.
    Milt Wilcox does not win 17

    Big Red Machine teams

    Bench
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    Concepcion
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    1984 Tiger team was the best defense up the middle I ever saw.
    I know of the Red teams from books and films
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    Jake is getting pummeled, and so am I.

    Bad, bad, bad bet.
    Second one I made this week.

    Nashy slumping.
    It happens, I get that, but I have made two stupid wagers so far this week.
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  34. 08-21-13 08:07 PM #34
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    Yea Im with you NAsh. I had told myself to stop touching bad teams in meaningless games but I jumped on the Cubs and bang the same result I get everytime I mess with such teams.
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  35. 08-21-13 08:09 PM #35
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    i have money on the nats

    don't like historic past matchups, but arrieta has never had success vs the nats. ohlendorf has good pitching stats...

    surprised at the pregame lines
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