1. 01-12-13 10:14 AM #1
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    Retirement Bet NC State 94 units

    thanks for the free money Kenneth this line is off by about 12 points

    Nc state= better players, at home, hungrier, healthier+ Amile Jefferson factor
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  2. 01-12-13 10:16 AM #2
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    better players
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  3. 01-12-13 10:18 AM #3
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    No Ryan Kelley for Duke is going to be tough. But if Curry and Dawkins are hitting 3s they are pretty unbeatable. Im going to grab NCSTATE live after a duke run.
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  4. 01-12-13 10:25 AM #4
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    NC State was favored to win the ACC going into the year and has 5-6 NBA players. Even if Duke was healthy they have better players but Kelley is out and Curry is playing hurt
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  5. 01-12-13 10:25 AM #5
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    umm Ralphie Dawkins is not playing this year.
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    This is too obvious. I am passing.
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  8. 01-12-13 10:31 AM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by innovation View Post
    This is too obvious. I am passing.
    Only reason Duke is favored is pomeroy if this game was the first week of the year NC State is -6.5
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    GL son
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  11. 01-12-13 10:36 AM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by rm18 View Post
    NC State was favored to win the ACC going into the year and has 5-6 NBA players. Even if Duke was healthy they have better players but Kelley is out and Curry is playing hurt


    and this means what? paper champions.

    State has a good chance to beat Duke today with Kelly not playing today. Duke has had some first half struggles the past six games and State should look to jump out to a lead early and pressure Duke.
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  12. 01-12-13 10:36 AM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by rm18 View Post
    Only reason Duke is favored is pomeroy if this game was the first week of the year NC State is -6.5
    Yes. But NC state has proven they aren't as good as we thought they'd be.
    What would the Seattle/Atlanta line be if this was week 1, just cause ATL would have been giving a TD doesn't mean it's the play (even though it is)
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    Quote Originally Posted by rm18 View Post
    Only reason Duke is favored is pomeroy if this game was the first week of the year NC State is -6.5

    Sagarin's numbers has Duke -8.5, so its just not Pomeroy.
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    If it was the first week of the year then UCLA, UNC, and Kentucky would all be highly ranked.....
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  16. 01-12-13 10:52 AM #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by jarvol View Post
    If it was the first week of the year then UCLA, UNC, and Kentucky would all be highly ranked.....
    Those teams aren't leading the country in FG% and on a 9 game winning streak, Duke only has 5 regulars healthy and can Plumlee stay out of foul trouble against NC States high scoring big men?
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    Duke has the defensive advantage. Even with Kelly out NC state allows to high if a 2 point % to beat Duke this year. That's why duke is solid they play great defense.
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  18. 01-12-13 10:55 AM #18
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    Sat 1/12 531 Duke -1 -110 -119 Over 149 -108
    09:00 AM 532 NC State +1 -102 +106

    line freefell this morning got some at +4 just a few hours ago
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  19. 01-12-13 11:00 AM #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by innovation View Post
    Duke has the defensive advantage. Even with Kelly out NC state allows to high if a 2 point % to beat Duke this year. That's why duke is solid they play great defense.
    NC State does lead the country in FG % Duke is well coached on defense but I think too small to prevent the easy buckets.
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    alright Im out gametime hope it is a good crowd
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    The team that beats Duke simply has to keep Plumlee with his back to the basket. He is lucky to hit the backboard with his back to the basket
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    bully for you mate
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    Congrats
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  24. 01-12-13 01:19 PM #24
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    ty, I think State will continue to be underrated for a while but the Maryland game could be a trap because of letdown/foul trouble
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    congrats man,smoke a fat one for me
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  26. 01-12-13 01:20 PM #26
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    Nice. KenPom fail.
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    duke was favored because of the name on the front of the jerseys not nerdpom
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  28. 01-12-13 02:06 PM #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by rm18 View Post
    ty, I think State will continue to be underrated for a while but the Maryland game could be a trap because of letdown/foul trouble
    Who is underrating them? They are preseason picks to win ACC? wtf

    Nice win though
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    Quote Originally Posted by thetrinity View Post
    duke was favored because of the name on the front of the jerseys not nerdpom
    They were the #1 team in country with wins over UK, UL, Minnesota, VCU, & Ohio St.
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    come on louisville dukes always overpriced anyways, no way they should have been favored in a million years in the game. should have been 2 the other way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thetrinity View Post
    come on louisville dukes always overpriced anyways, no way they should have been favored in a million years in the game. should have been 2 the other way.
    Duke's 9-6 against the spread this year.......
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    I hear ya, but can't deny who they beat and as much as I love watching NC State play, If Kelly was healthy no way Howell (beast) gets 17 boards and duke probably wins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tto827 View Post
    Duke's 9-6 against the spread this year.......
    check back after they start playing road games and tournament games, they always start hot and fade ats
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louisvillekid1 View Post
    Who is underrating them? They are preseason picks to win ACC? wtf

    Nice win though

    By underrated I mean the lines there will be value betting them. Yes they were preseason to win the league but todays line had them as a home dog to another ACC team without their 2nd best player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louisvillekid1 View Post
    I hear ya, but can't deny who they beat and as much as I love watching NC State play, If Kelly was healthy no way Howell (beast) gets 17 boards and duke probably wins.
    ya without kelly they shouldnt have been favored i should have said.

    it was also their first road game all season.
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