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    poster 'bread' said billy was a beautiful man

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    Why doesn't SBR buy the book?

    Sure they can get it for pennies on the dollar. Or hell I'm sure they could take it over, cut what's owed in half, and say take it if u want.

    Surprised Jon hasn't mad a jump at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatboatboat View Post
    You find that funny?
    About as funny as your videos if that answers your question

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  5. #285
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iwinyourmoney View Post
    Why doesn't SBR buy the book?

    Sure they can get it for pennies on the dollar. Or hell I'm sure they could take it over, cut what's owed in half, and say take it if u want.

    Surprised Jon hasn't mad a jump at it.
    Because they don't want to give $ away! Assume debt for a book that's tarnished beyond repair....

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    Sam, good work and findings. More proof and insight on what we already knew. It sickens me SBR is not responding and setting things straight. I guess they really have no foot to stand on.
    Live and learn.
    We had a "watchdog" unfortunately it was blind and corrupt.

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    Instead of commenting they are busy deleting threads...

    "Remember When SBR John said" thread was just deleted....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inkwell77 View Post
    Instead of commenting they are busy deleting threads...

    "Remember When SBR John said" thread was just deleted....
    It was a ghost poster. But ask away, no one is hiding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    poster 'bread' said billy was a beautiful man
    No argument here with his assessment, I wouldn't kick him out of bed either. However, he's also John's biggest liability right now, should a coalition of posters attempt to get law enforcement interested in going after SBR.

    Bill has four young kids, a wife from the States and a face too pretty for prison, so you can bet the authorities would be licking their lips to get him under the heat lamps. I sure wouldn't want to be in his shoes right now, but his pants are still a mighty attractive short-term location.
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    @ RS

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    This might turn the lights out on SBR....

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    Quote Originally Posted by lyon804 View Post

    This might turn the lights out on SBR....

    John said there were changes coming... We'll see

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    John said there were changes coming... We'll see
    Maybe understatement of his life..... No telling where this ends up.

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    I feel is if most are laughing at the carnage and posting on borrowed time here..

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    Quote Originally Posted by lyon804 View Post
    Maybe understatement of his life..... No telling where this ends up.
    Whenever there is a misstep there should be changes to prevent a repeat. SBR made a mistake recommending a B rated book and allowing them to become a sponsor. Those involved will be held accountable and we will make sure mistakes like this one can not be repeated.

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    will SBR still be sending pizzas and gift cards or has that stopped?

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    You may want to change your avatar SBR John. That looks like SBR's stock price since the news about BI broke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    Whenever there is a misstep there should be changes to prevent a repeat. SBR made a mistake recommending a B rated book and allowing them to become a sponsor. Those involved will be held accountable and we will make sure mistakes like this one can not be repeated.

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    SBR_John...

    #1 on your list of changes should be that your staff cannot play into sponsor books muchless have a credit acct with them

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    All the mods played there

    Blondie is Melissa

    Thought was shari but BI only took U.S. action

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    Smoke , what people say and want they do are usually 2 different things

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    Sammy I know

    Mod listed as Melissa

    Only one female mod located in U.S.

    Melissa good peoples though

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    So apparently... the list posted is posters who had money with BI? Only active posters? Not anyone who had an account with a zero balance? Because I don't see my account there on the list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    SBR_John...

    #1 on your list of changes should be that your staff cannot play into sponsor books muchless have a credit acct with them

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    30 mods had accounts there

    Didnt realize 30 mods here

    30 mods a lot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke View Post
    Sammy I know

    Mod listed as Melissa

    Only one female mod located in U.S.

    Melissa good peoples though

    The players under "SBRMOD2" are not "mods". That heading could be short for something like "SBR Modification 2", as in the affiliate deal was changing over time. Look at the account numbers under that heading... they are all higher account numbers. That means that either they issued higher account numbers for people in that classification, or (more likely), these people signed up lately and so were issued higher account numbers. It could be a list of people who signed up for the special bonus Jon offered at the beginning of this football season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    SBR_John...

    #1 on your list of changes should be that your staff cannot play into sponsor books muchless have a credit acct with them
    Especially the people whose job is to arbitrate between the book and the poster in pay disputes.

  28. #308
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    so for as much shit as everyone gives each other on here for being low life degenerate squares, SBR posters actually buried a book for 2 straight years

  29. #309
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    This is the best Christmas present a scam sportsbook owner has ever received. These stories are from Robbie (Zach) M\*\*\*\*\*\* and his ************ which promoted his Apex Sportsbook. Apex Sportsbook closed with player funds and SBR quoted him as saying he had some of the player funds but wouldn't pay because he wouldn't be able to start another venture. We followed him with that for about 5 years until he paid some of the guys who were still contactable... This was the same site that wrote Heritage was an SBR scam with his America s Bookie banner inside and where the "bailout" email spam came from this week. He's been angry for a lot of years and loving watching guys react to his "coverage". We aren't going to be baited each time someone posts a quote from a bad neighborhood site like this.

    This is the first time we've seen this list but BI Jon stated personally that it's faked and there was never a category called "SBRmod". We see what you see above. Regardless what of it is their real log, every site tracks campaign referrals in groups of users. It's how a Matchbook and even a Fanduel decides internally to renew. It's how all traffic is tracked including traffic from http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/odds and even Amazon's internal software. It's what changes after you select the "where did you hear about us" dropdown on most sites that have a signup.

    It's been years since a site SBR and posters considered decent has failed and two in over a decade. Many more well regarded books have been pulled down, some temporarily for missteps with players or slow-paying. Books like BetOnSports and recently America s Bookie have offered to pay to be here. The posting board is about 25% of the SBR network and BI was about 1/20th of the sponsor here. It doesn't make business sense to risk reputation and not how a site is successful long term.

    There is always going to be a conflict of interest when sites have "featured products". We know that which is why there are about 50 tools here to research what aspects are important to you. BI wasn't the #1 book, it wasn't even top 10 or top 40. But, it was a lot of poster's #1. It was a B book that started out doing things right but it was new. It will be the last B book.

    We know now once the owner was out, in this case but not always, it was over. There was nothing players could have gained a week earlier had we taken them off the forum and of course nothing was gained by SBRforum. To my knowledge one could not signup. Unfortunately, a good in-tact brand wasn't enough for those in control to continue.

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    You drunk Dozer?

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    can't be 100% fake. justin7 confirmed 85k. and others have confirmed.
    Last edited by Kaabee; 12-21-12 at 11:18 PM.

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    Bill Dozer is good peoples..

    I don't believe that article. At least not the Dozer part...Bill Dozer is a very nice vato.

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    SBR just does not give a penetrate. That much is obvious.

    They allowed Jon to solicit deposits while they knew BI was done for. I could go on, but why bother? It's all been said a hundred times at this point.

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    if apex and robbie started these rumors this is very interesting

    would love to know more about this

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    Wait...

    BI Jon said the list was faked! Then it MUST be fake. It's not like BI Jon would lie to everyone and say the payout delays were simply a processor issue and everyone would be paid out on Monday while SBR pros continued dumping money into his coke habit. Ring a bell, Bill?

    Get the full outta here. That's down right insulting and almost feels as if salt was rubbed in the wound a bit. I can't believe you even have the nerve to expect anyone here to believe a word out of that scum bags mouth.
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