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    Heartless Mitt Romney Sneers at Dying Medical Marijuana Patient


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    Would have a lot more impact if the current admin wasn't essentially doing exactly what this poor guy is worried about.

    Pretty heartless none the less though.

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    I blame both

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    marco are you aware there is a political forum here? stop flooding PT

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcojuiceman View Post
    I blame both
    Here you have the last 3 presidents with drug "experience". Obama basically wide open in his books, Bush giving the bizarro evasive answers (just google "bush cocaine question" and the answers are impressive for sidestepping), and Clinton with his "I didn't inhale" (yet pretty much common knowledge also did cocaine in his past)

    Guys like the dude in the video, are real people - with real life threatening health issues.

    Issues like medical mj or end of life choices are glossed over and run past evangelical polling, industry consulting etc.

    But like anything, if it doesn't affect a majority of people, it takes money and lobbying to affect change - which sucks.

    One only needs to look at legalizing online gambling and legalized marijuana. It's not about "liberty" by those who previously opposed it, it's about a new tax revenue stream. Suddenly support grows - imagine that.

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    "Legalizing online gambling and legalizing marijuana"....

    Are you serious?

    Look pal, if those are 2 important issues to you in deciding who to vote for in the election....you really need to grow the fukk up.

    This is the real world. There's a lot bigger issues going on than rather or not you can visit your local head shop or deposit money to Bookmaker via your cc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by opie1988 View Post
    "Legalizing online gambling and legalizing marijuana"....

    Are you serious?

    Look pal, if those are 2 important issues to you in deciding who to vote for in the election....you really need to grow the fukk up.

    This is the real world. There's a lot bigger issues going on than rather or not you can visit your local head shop or deposit money to Bookmaker via your cc.
    If it affected your bottom line (was heavily invested into the outcome of online gaming), or affected your life (had MS and used medical mj and faced criminal charges over it) - then there are no bigger issues to those people.

    I'll grow up at the rate I want thanks.

    The day I take advice from you is the day you accept forum advice on how to keep your fat kid from turning into TTwarrior.

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    He handled himself fine. The wheelchair guy and his silly friend obviously were just trying to confront Mitt, recording video and all. Maybe he should have babbled about hope & change for a moment before moving through the rest of the floor?

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    Add CrazyLou as another who votes against his own self-interest.

    And the list goes on and on and on.

    Opie got owned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyF0cker View Post
    Add CrazyLou as another who votes against his own self-interest.

    And the list goes on and on and on.

    Opie got owned.
    Opie should just keep his trap shut. Instead he opens it and confirms the extent to which self-interest rules his heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by opie1988 View Post
    "Legalizing online gambling and legalizing marijuana"....

    Are you serious?

    Look pal, if those are 2 important issues to you in deciding who to vote for in the election....you really need to grow the fukk up.

    This is the real world. There's a lot bigger issues going on than rather or not you can visit your local head shop or deposit money to Bookmaker via your cc.
    Its called Freedom of Choice Dont you read the Constitution I thought that were Republicans were about?? What happened??
    The amendment prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACoochy View Post
    Opie should just keep his trap shut. Instead he opens it and confirms the extent to which self-interest rules his heart.
    Hey cooch....lets make a deal. The day I start giving a fukk about who you elect as your Prime Minister, you can start jumping your foreign ass into US threads. OK? Cool. Now since today is not that day, go fukk yourself, pal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyF0cker View Post
    Add CrazyLou as another who votes against his own self-interest.
    And the list goes on and on and on.
    Opie got owned.

    Yes....I was so veeerrry burned. Especially by the tt warrior reference. Very hurtful.

    In fact, this was so very "owning" of me that I may reconsider my srtance on legalizing drugs, welfare, and gay marriage.

    Now please.....go make some more posts reiterating how very "sharp" you are and how much you win at multiple D & F rated sportsbooks. I'm sure everyone finds all those just as riveting as I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by opie1988 View Post
    Yes....I was so veeerrry burned. Especially by the tt warrior reference. Very hurtful.

    In fact, this was so very "owning" of me that I may reconsider my srtance on legalizing drugs, welfare, and gay marriage.

    Now please.....go make some more posts reiterating how very "sharp" you are and how much you win at multiple D & F rated sportsbooks. I'm sure everyone finds all those just as riveting as I do.
    Uhh. You're a little misinformed. I live in Las Vegas and bet against mostly widely available numbers. You're apparently confusing me for someone else. Surprising? Not really.

    I wouldn't expect you to change your stance on any issue, but you were certainly made to look like a fool - only to follow it up with a post nearly as foolish.

    P.S. - I don't involve myself in PT transgressions. I have no idea who ttwarrior is. So, obviously that wasn't the statement which made you look ignorant.

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    It looks like he is at a "meet and greet", and gave the guy 50 seconds of time. He told him that he's against medical marijuana, so there was no reason for going further, other than this guy and his friend trying to get a "gotcha" moment with the jail question. I find it offensive that the guy taping is exploiting the person in the wheelchair. If they are so worried about legalizing medical marijuana, they need to go to their local state governments. There are several states that allow it. The federal government doesn't need to be involved, so this is a moot issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR Lou View Post
    He handled himself fine. The wheelchair guy and his silly friend obviously were just trying to confront Mitt, recording video and all. Maybe he should have babbled about hope & change for a moment before moving through the rest of the floor?
    So he shouldn't be confronted over medical cannabis? What other issues should be off limits?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr KLC View Post
    It looks like he is at a "meet and greet", and gave the guy 50 seconds of time. He told him that he's against medical marijuana, so there was no reason for going further, other than this guy and his friend trying to get a "gotcha" moment with the jail question. I find it offensive that the guy taping is exploiting the person in the wheelchair. If they are so worried about legalizing medical marijuana, they need to go to their local state governments. There are several states that allow it. The federal government doesn't need to be involved, so this is a moot issue.
    I agree with the bolded statement and that is exactly why the presidential candidates need to be grilled about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyF0cker View Post
    Add CrazyLou as another who votes against his own self-interest.
    I think the American Dream is having the opportunity to work hard and be successful, sharing as much of the fruits of your labor with your loved ones as possible. I don't believe those with bigger bank accounts than me should be fleeced every April.

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    I don't have any problem with how he answered the question, the problem is with his position. He didn't even say 'oh, we need to study it more, control it better, etc etc.', he just said "I'm against medical marijuana". Why? It doesn't matter if the patient's doctor believes it's their best treatment? It doesn't matter if it saves their life? All that matters is that he's against it. He could have at least tried to articulate a reason. Or is it 'because I said so'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR Lou View Post
    He handled himself fine. The wheelchair guy and his silly friend obviously were just trying to confront Mitt, recording video and all. Maybe he should have babbled about hope & change for a moment before moving through the rest of the floor?
    Maybe he should have articulated a reason why he's against medical marijuana - why he'd override a doctor's medical prescription. 'Because I said so' isn't a reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Maybe he should have articulated a reason why he's against medical marijuana - why he'd override a doctor's medical prescription. 'Because I said so' isn't a reason.
    In all due respect though, he probably didn't have time to get into a 5 minute debate over the issue. By the looks of the crowd there, he probably wanted to get to as many people as possible. I've been to functions like these, and you're lucky to shake hands with the person, let alone get 50 seconds with them. The fact that he was in a wheelchair was probably why Romney listened to him that long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR Lou View Post
    I think the American Dream is having the opportunity to work hard and be successful, sharing as much of the fruits of your labor with your loved ones as possible. I don't believe those with bigger bank accounts than me should be fleeced every April.
    Obviously, you don't know what the term fleeced means. The U.S. has some of lowest tax rates in the industrialized world especially for higher income brackets.

    Apparently, you'd rather pay for everything instead.

    Bah like a sheep, Lou.

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    I actually think it's rather comical when someone uses that argument though especially when they're nowhere near the top tax bracket. If you were actually trying to run the race of the "American dream," would you rather have the obstacle of higher taxes in the middle of the race or past the finish line?

    I know which one should make more sense, but many people are brainwashed to vote against what should be common sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyF0cker View Post
    If you were actually trying to run the race of the "American dream," would you rather have the obstacle of higher taxes in the middle of the race or past the finish line.
    I'd prefer to stay in reality and there's no need to put others down. Seems whether you're just a two-bit poster on the internet or a politician, more time is spent discrediting and generalizing than speaking honestly and from the heart on what you believe. I'm not going to get into a war of soundbites with you and don't care to expand on my beliefs when you have given me no reason to appreciate anything you've said. Have a wonderful evening.

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    Imagine a world where nobody infringed on anybody else's rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Strange concept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR Lou View Post
    I'd prefer to stay in reality and there's no need to put others down. Seems whether you're just a two-bit poster on the internet or a politician, more time is spent discrediting and generalizing than speaking honestly and from the heart on what you believe. I'm not going to get into a war of soundbites with you and don't care to expand on my beliefs when you have given me no reason to appreciate anything you've said. Have a wonderful evening.
    Monkeyfocker got owned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chilidog View Post
    Imagine a world where nobody infringed on anybody else's rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Strange concept.
    The party of small government believes in that.

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    typical of him.

    just can't wait till this election business is over and obama can move on with his policies. its sad that even some of the more
    'moderate' and i use that term loosely republicans are getting voted out of office by extreme right right wingers.
    the future can't come soon enough, only anther couple decades intill the gop is just a geographical party, that is nothing to worry about nationally. but in-till then its going to be hell.

    i love how every republican literally gets on their knees and sucks reagans dead dick, but at the same time his major policies would never-ever be supported now. thus, reagan would be labeled as an evil liberal.
    and its only been 25-30 years, and they moved so far to the right, while the left for the most part has stayed the same.

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    Anyone who thinks a person shouldn't be allowed to get stoned in the privacy of their own home to alleviate some pain should mind their own ******* business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 8ArIvd5 View Post
    Anyone who thinks a person shouldn't be allowed to get stoned in the privacy of their own home to alleviate some pain should mind their own ******* business.
    If Romney came out in favor of decriminalizing weed (and Obama opposed), you'd have Opie & Lou finding every libertarian argument in favor of drugs.

    "Liberals want to run your life. What about the capitalist who is growing this pain medication? Why do Liberals hate sick people and capitalists?"

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    Does Barrack have more heart??? I don't ******* think so! Your pal is out to destroy our country. Name one good thing he has done? No Bin Laden as any president would of pulled the trigger. In fact they had to pull Barrack off the golf course, as he hesitated.............

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    Another case of Republicans trying to dictate how others live their lives, nothing new here

    I am a huge Ron Paul supporter (Agree dead on with most of his ideals) but if he can't win I'll take Obama over this snake Romney any day of the week

    Will never support a jerkoff that wants to take us back in time with issues like these......Just something I will never be able to look over.

    Just Gimmie a damn president that doesn't spend like a drunken sailor, let's the economy take care of itself for the most part, isn't out looking for wars overseas, and let's all Americans do what they want in their own privacy

    Why should it matter to anyone if I want to smoke a blunt, sign on to pinnacle or run down to the local casino and place a bet, and then go bang a hooker with the winnings?? You don't want to live like that, then fukkin don't.........Go play the lottery, smoke some cigarettes, eat a few big macs, and wash it down with some malt liquor......Because you already can!
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    But, it is not heartless that our current president doesn't believe in the American way!

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    If the self-harm princples outlined by John Stuart Mill were as widely accepted as Adam Smith's economics (redubbed "Reaganomics") and Locke's human right principles, these should-be mundane issues would be just that, and not need to be talked about.

    Instead we have a bunch of fools who want to allow the feds to keep overextending their reach onto the states.

    If Republicans were really truthful with their supposed "small government" philosophy, and not just selective small government agendas, then this would be common ground both (all three) parties can easily agree on.

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    Agree Chalky, but Obama is a socialist!

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