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    Reagan saved america.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ** PICKS View Post
    Reagan saved america.

    Raygun tripled the national debt via government spending!!! Raised taxes 12 times !!! What a liberal douche bag that Raygun was.

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    Bottom line reagan fixed the ecomony in 16 months and created 6.5 million jobs in that time, obama has taken the debt from 9 trillion to 15 trillion in 3 years and has worsened the economy. Reagan spent no where near as much as obama did and actually got the job done so his spending is more than justified and like i said it was peanuts compared to obama. Obama wasted the 1st year of his presidency on healthcare for christ sake, the guy has absolutley no clue on how to run anything.

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    Apparently, the party of NO doesn't know how to run anything either.

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    Someone needed to tell the man-child Obama NO !

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    idiots worshipping reagan

    1. Reagan was a serial tax raiser. As governor of California, Reagan “signed into law the largest tax increase in the history of any state up till then.” Meanwhile, state spending nearly doubled. As president, Reagan “raised taxes in seven of his eight years in office,” including four times in just two years. As former GOP Senator Alan Simpson, who called Reagan “a dear friend,” told NPR, “Ronald Reagan raised taxes 11 times in his administration — I was there.” “Reagan was never afraid to raise taxes,” said historian Douglas Brinkley, who edited Reagan’s memoir. Reagan the anti-tax zealot is “false mythology,” Brinkley said.

    2. Reagan nearly tripled the federal budget deficit. During the Reagan years, the debt increased to nearly $3 trillion, “roughly three times as much as the first 80 years of the century had done altogether.” Reagan enacted a major tax cut his first year in office and government revenue dropped off precipitously. Despite the conservative myth that tax cuts somehow increase revenue, the government went deeper into debt and Reagan had to raise taxes just a year after he enacted his tax cut. Despite ten more tax hikes on everything from gasoline to corporate income, Reagan was never able to get the deficit under control.

    3. Unemployment soared after Reagan’s 1981 tax cuts. Unemployment jumped to 10.8 percent after Reagan enacted his much-touted tax cut, and it took years for the rate to get back down to its previous level. Meanwhile, income inequality exploded. Despite the myth that Reagan presided over an era of unmatched economic boom for all Americans, Reagan disproportionately taxed the poor and middle class, but the economic growth of the 1980′s did little help them. “Since 1980, median household income has risen only 30 percent, adjusted for inflation, while average incomes at the top have tripled or quadrupled,” the New York Times’ David Leonhardt noted.

    4. Reagan grew the size of the federal government tremendously. Reagan promised “to move boldly, decisively, and quickly to control the runaway growth of federal spending,” but federal spending “ballooned” under Reagan. He bailed out Social Security in 1983 after attempting to privatize it, and set up a progressive taxation system to keep it funded into the future. He promised to cut government agencies like the Department of Energy and Education but ended up adding one of the largest — the Department of Veterans’ Affairs, which today has a budget of nearly $90 billion and close to 300,000 employees. He also hiked defense spending by over $100 billion a year to a level not seen since the height of the Vietnam war.

    5. Reagan did little to fight a woman’s right to choose. As governor of California in 1967, Reagan signed a bill to liberalize the state’s abortion laws that “resulted in more than a million abortions.” When Reagan ran for president, he advocated a constitutional amendment that would have prohibited all abortions except when necessary to save the life of the mother, but once in office, he “never seriously pursued” curbing choice.

    6. Reagan was a “bellicose peacenik.” He wrote in his memoirs that “[m]y dream…became a world free of nuclear weapons.” “This vision stemmed from the president’s belief that the biblical account of Armageddon prophesied nuclear war — and that apocalypse could be averted if everyone, especially the Soviets, eliminated nuclear weapons,” the Washington Monthly noted. And Reagan’s military buildup was meant to crush the Soviet Union, but “also to put the United States in a stronger position from which to establish effective arms control” for the the entire world — a vision acted out by Regean’s vice president, George H.W. Bush, when he became president.

    7. Reagan gave amnesty to 3 million undocumented immigrants. Reagan signed into law a bill that made any immigrant who had entered the country before 1982 eligible for amnesty. The bill was sold as a crackdown, but its tough sanctions on employers who hired undocumented immigrants were removed before final passage. The bill helped 3 million people and millions more family members gain American residency. It has since become a source of major embarrassment for conservatives.

    8. Reagan illegally funneled weapons to Iran. Reagan and other senior U.S. officials secretly sold arms to officials in Iran, which was subject to a an arms embargo at the time, in exchange for American hostages. Some funds from the illegal arms sales also went to fund anti-Communist rebels in Nicaragua — something Congress had already prohibited the administration from doing. When the deals went public, the Iran-Contra Affair, as it came to be know, was an enormous political scandal that forced several senior administration officials to resign.

    9. Reagan vetoed a comprehensive anti-Apartheid act. which placed sanctions on South Africa and cut off all American trade with the country. Reagan’s veto was overridden by the Republican-controlled Senate. Reagan responded by saying “I deeply regret that Congress has seen fit to override my veto,” saying that the law “will not solve the serious problems that plague that country.”

    10. Reagan helped create the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden. Reagan fought a proxy war with the Soviet Union by training, arming, equipping, and funding Islamist mujahidin fighters in Afghanistan. Reagan funneled billions of dollars, along with top-secret intelligence and sophisticated weaponry to these fighters through the Pakistani intelligence service. The Talbian and Osama Bin Laden — a prominent mujahidin commander — emerged from these mujahidin groups Reagan helped create, and U.S. policy towards Pakistan remains strained because of the intelligence services’ close relations to these fighters. In fact, Reagan’s decision to continue the proxy war after the Soviets were willing to retreat played a direct role in Bin Laden’s ascendancy.

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    #10 wasn't just reagan's fault

    as sibel edmonds pointed out, bin laden was on the cia payroll up to and including 9/11

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    Just the FACTS ma'am

    Feb 18, 2012

    Americans say Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton will be judged the best presidents of the past four decades, the Gallup Poll reports.


    http://content.usatoday.com/communit...1#.T7bEssXGO70

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    Quote Originally Posted by ** PICKS View Post
    Reagan saved america.
    From what.....

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    From the malaise of Carter



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    Quote Originally Posted by ** PICKS View Post
    Reagan saved america.
    oh please just say "NO"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    Just the FACTS ma'am

    Feb 18, 2012

    Americans say Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton will be judged the best presidents of the past four decades, the Gallup Poll reports.
    ignorance is bliss...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 19th Hole View Post
    From what.....
    The disaster jimmy carter turned this country into in his short 4 year term, like they say history repeats itself as the new carter is currently residing at 1600 pennsylvania. I am not saying romney is the next reagan but romney will look like he did a better job than he actually does after the disaster he replaces in 6 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghenghis Kahn View Post

    ignorance is bliss...

    GK , be honest... if you coukd blink an eye and Bill Clinton would be President right now, today, wouldnt you do it? - So dont be soooo hard on the American Public

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    Obama has been mentored his whole life and is very impressionable... from a child in Indonesia to Frank Marshall Davis to marrying his wife in Chicago to Rev Wright & Bill Ayers

    if the whole truth was available to the public in 2007 he would not have won the Dem nomination. Not saying anything is evil but would not be received well by the public at large


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    A 50-year-old high school prank of Romney's is WAY MORE important than the communist/marxist teachings of Obama's mentors. I can't believe you would think that Obama's influences growing up would shape his communist/marxist beliefs!!!!! Sarcasm off now!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickbo528 View Post

    A 50-year-old high school prank of Romney's is WAY MORE important than the communist/marxist teachings of Obama's mentors. I can't believe you would think that Obama's influences growing up would shape his communist/marxist beliefs!!!!! Sarcasm off now!!!!!!

    his wife has influenced him more than most will accept - had any other candidate's wife said... For the 1st time in my life I'm proud of USA because my husband is now the Dem nominee... her and her husband would have been kicked to the curb

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    When Reagan ran for President and re election was it close? I can't remember???? How were his approval ratings say compared to Obama? Anyone know?

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    John , a landslide in '80 even more so '84

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    When Reagan ran for President and re election was it close? I can't remember???? How were his approval ratings say compared to Obama? Anyone know?

    Yea, he must of really sucked according to Wiki
    "The president's overwhelming victory saw Mondale carry only his home state of Minnesota (by 3800 votes) and the District of Columbia. Reagan won a record 525 electoral votes, the most of any candidate in United States history"

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    here are 2 ways to sum-up Reagan's & Obama's first 3 yrs


    reaganomics - Reagan said... reaganomics must be working because the news media are NOT using that term any longer

    obamacare - is persona non grata in obama's re-election campaign. NEVER has it came out of Barry's mouth

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    when reagan was president we had a population base that had incentive to work hard, and therefore we had a strong economy.

    now we have a population that has incentive to suck off the government's teat and collect unemployment for 2+ years, so of course we have a terrible economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crustyme View Post
    idiots worshipping reagan

    1. Reagan was a serial tax raiser. As governor of California, Reagan “signed into law the largest tax increase in the history of any state up till then.” Meanwhile, state spending nearly doubled. As president, Reagan “raised taxes in seven of his eight years in office,” including four times in just two years. As former GOP Senator Alan Simpson, who called Reagan “a dear friend,” told NPR, “Ronald Reagan raised taxes 11 times in his administration — I was there.” “Reagan was never afraid to raise taxes,” said historian Douglas Brinkley, who edited Reagan’s memoir. Reagan the anti-tax zealot is “false mythology,” Brinkley said.

    2. Reagan nearly tripled the federal budget deficit. During the Reagan years, the debt increased to nearly $3 trillion, “roughly three times as much as the first 80 years of the century had done altogether.” Reagan enacted a major tax cut his first year in office and government revenue dropped off precipitously. Despite the conservative myth that tax cuts somehow increase revenue, the government went deeper into debt and Reagan had to raise taxes just a year after he enacted his tax cut. Despite ten more tax hikes on everything from gasoline to corporate income, Reagan was never able to get the deficit under control.

    3. Unemployment soared after Reagan’s 1981 tax cuts. Unemployment jumped to 10.8 percent after Reagan enacted his much-touted tax cut, and it took years for the rate to get back down to its previous level. Meanwhile, income inequality exploded. Despite the myth that Reagan presided over an era of unmatched economic boom for all Americans, Reagan disproportionately taxed the poor and middle class, but the economic growth of the 1980′s did little help them. “Since 1980, median household income has risen only 30 percent, adjusted for inflation, while average incomes at the top have tripled or quadrupled,” the New York Times’ David Leonhardt noted.

    4. Reagan grew the size of the federal government tremendously. Reagan promised “to move boldly, decisively, and quickly to control the runaway growth of federal spending,” but federal spending “ballooned” under Reagan. He bailed out Social Security in 1983 after attempting to privatize it, and set up a progressive taxation system to keep it funded into the future. He promised to cut government agencies like the Department of Energy and Education but ended up adding one of the largest — the Department of Veterans’ Affairs, which today has a budget of nearly $90 billion and close to 300,000 employees. He also hiked defense spending by over $100 billion a year to a level not seen since the height of the Vietnam war.

    5. Reagan did little to fight a woman’s right to choose. As governor of California in 1967, Reagan signed a bill to liberalize the state’s abortion laws that “resulted in more than a million abortions.” When Reagan ran for president, he advocated a constitutional amendment that would have prohibited all abortions except when necessary to save the life of the mother, but once in office, he “never seriously pursued” curbing choice.

    6. Reagan was a “bellicose peacenik.” He wrote in his memoirs that “[m]y dream…became a world free of nuclear weapons.” “This vision stemmed from the president’s belief that the biblical account of Armageddon prophesied nuclear war — and that apocalypse could be averted if everyone, especially the Soviets, eliminated nuclear weapons,” the Washington Monthly noted. And Reagan’s military buildup was meant to crush the Soviet Union, but “also to put the United States in a stronger position from which to establish effective arms control” for the the entire world — a vision acted out by Regean’s vice president, George H.W. Bush, when he became president.

    7. Reagan gave amnesty to 3 million undocumented immigrants. Reagan signed into law a bill that made any immigrant who had entered the country before 1982 eligible for amnesty. The bill was sold as a crackdown, but its tough sanctions on employers who hired undocumented immigrants were removed before final passage. The bill helped 3 million people and millions more family members gain American residency. It has since become a source of major embarrassment for conservatives.

    8. Reagan illegally funneled weapons to Iran. Reagan and other senior U.S. officials secretly sold arms to officials in Iran, which was subject to a an arms embargo at the time, in exchange for American hostages. Some funds from the illegal arms sales also went to fund anti-Communist rebels in Nicaragua — something Congress had already prohibited the administration from doing. When the deals went public, the Iran-Contra Affair, as it came to be know, was an enormous political scandal that forced several senior administration officials to resign.

    9. Reagan vetoed a comprehensive anti-Apartheid act. which placed sanctions on South Africa and cut off all American trade with the country. Reagan’s veto was overridden by the Republican-controlled Senate. Reagan responded by saying “I deeply regret that Congress has seen fit to override my veto,” saying that the law “will not solve the serious problems that plague that country.”

    10. Reagan helped create the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden. Reagan fought a proxy war with the Soviet Union by training, arming, equipping, and funding Islamist mujahidin fighters in Afghanistan. Reagan funneled billions of dollars, along with top-secret intelligence and sophisticated weaponry to these fighters through the Pakistani intelligence service. The Talbian and Osama Bin Laden — a prominent mujahidin commander — emerged from these mujahidin groups Reagan helped create, and U.S. policy towards Pakistan remains strained because of the intelligence services’ close relations to these fighters. In fact, Reagan’s decision to continue the proxy war after the Soviets were willing to retreat played a direct role in Bin Laden’s ascendancy.
    Nice cut and paste. Come back to us when you think of your own ideas, or at least give credit to the people that come up with these ideas instead of bringing them out as your own.

    http://thinkprogress.org/politics/20...ial/?mobile=nc

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    they are public knowledge..... except to idiots worshipping him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by crustyme View Post
    they are public knowledge..... except to idiots worshipping him.

    You probably couldn't quote half of the shit you stole from that page.

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    you cant steal public knowledge.



    anyone who doesnt have their heads up reagans corpse knows them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by crustyme View Post
    you cant steal public knowledge.



    anyone who doesnt have their heads up reagans corpse knows them.


    First you want to steal rich people's money, and give it to the "less fortunate", and now you want to take other people's ideas.

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    Custy , see post #78 --- per usual you are in your own fantasy world. I can post a vid where a lib dem senator will plainly tell you it was OBAMA who 'forced' the dem controlled senate to keep indefinite detention for US citizen in the NDAA bill yet your answer is "but the repubs..." Like I said you are in your own fantasy world.

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    other peoples ideas? history is not intellectual property.



    ive mentioned these truths about reagan dozens of times in the past.


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    Quote Originally Posted by crustyme View Post
    other peoples ideas? history is not intellectual property.



    ive mentioned these truths about reagan dozens of times in the past.


    Off of who's website did you take those other ideas?


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    on 9/11/01.... al qaeda hijacked commercial airliners and flew them into the world trade centers & the pentagon, killing 3000 people.

    on aug 6, 2001, cia hand delivered an urgent memo to bush, who was vacationing at his crawford ranch, titled "bin laden determined to strike within the us" which detailed al qaedas plans of hijackings and bombing attacks in nyc. bush ignored it and remained on vacation for the rest of the month.

    oh shit, i didnt give credit for above so i must be an intellectual property thief.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ** PICKS View Post
    If more people had watched fox news in 2008 this horrendous mistake of electing a non citizen would never had happened, fox predicted all the bad shit that would happen too if he was elected.
    What did they say? They loved the shitty policies of Bush so it couldn't be possible that they hate Obamas policies since Obama is basically an extension of Bush's two terms. Are u aware the Bush tax cuts are are a huge drain on the deficit? So i guess what im saying is that Fox News would be a bunch of hypocrites if somehow they hate Obama policies yet loved Bush's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crustyme View Post
    on 9/11/01.... al qaeda hijacked commercial airliners and flew them into the world trade centers & the pentagon, killing 3000 people.

    on aug 6, 2001, cia hand delivered an urgent memo to bush, who was vacationing at his crawford ranch, titled "bin laden determined to strike within the us" which detailed al qaedas plans of hijackings and bombing attacks in nyc. bush ignored it and remained on vacation for the rest of the month.

    oh shit, i didnt give credit for above so i must be an intellectual property thief.

    Now that was a better job at first sight (you might have changed a few words around, but I don't have time to check). I'm proud of you.

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    funny how this clown never calls out his neocon pals who copy/paste with regularity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor4140 View Post
    What did they say? They loved the shitty policies of Bush so it couldn't be possible that they hate Obamas policies since Obama is basically an extension of Bush's two terms. Are u aware the Bush tax cuts are are a huge drain on the deficit? So i guess what im saying is that Fox News would be a bunch of hypocrites if somehow they hate Obama policies yet loved Bush's.
    Obamacare is the reason why our economy is stuck in neutral, no business wants to hire when there is uncertainty on whether or not there gonna have to pay extra to cover employees, bush tax cuts are the only thing keeping us above water. And obama should have extended them permanently in 2010 instead of doing another band aid in making it 2 years. So now hes gonna have to extend them again which is gonna piss off his supporters and if he gets rid of them the economy will drown, like i said the guy has no clue what he is doing. If he had extended them permanently in 2010 it would have been long forgotten by now and our economy would have been in better shape now and hed probably be a shoe in for reelection. The funny thing is if he would reach across the isle and show some bipartisanship he would have most likely won this election with ease, but he hasnt made one effort to work with republicans and has run the country into the ground and is now in a dogfight for reelection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ** PICKS View Post
    Bottom line reagan fixed the ecomony in 16 months and created 6.5 million jobs in that time, obama has taken the debt from 9 trillion to 15 trillion in 3 years and has worsened the economy. Reagan spent no where near as much as obama did and actually got the job done so his spending is more than justified and like i said it was peanuts compared to obama. Obama wasted the 1st year of his presidency on healthcare for christ sake, the guy has absolutley no clue on how to run anything.
    Hey dummy. Are u aware the Bush tax cuts and the Bush wars are the biggest part of that budget deficit? Rememer when BusH wouldn't put the war tab on the budget and hide it under the counter? I know one thing Obama didn't do tho. He didn't out one of our very own CI A agents like Bush's Vice president. Talk about disgraceful. He should have been hanged along with Saddam for pulling a stunt like that.

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