1. 01-24-12 06:54 PM #1
    jjgold
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    If You Bet $20 Per Game Does Juice Really Matter??

    Buddy asked me..well had an argument and I told him it does matter no matter how much you bet the lower juice is better.
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  2. 01-24-12 06:56 PM #2
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    technically...yes

    realistically... no. losing pennies to the vig.
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  3. 01-24-12 06:56 PM #3
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    Of course it matters. Your buddy's an idiot.
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  4. 01-24-12 06:57 PM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by 135steward View Post
    Of course it matters. Your buddy's an idiot.
    I told him that and he said I am an asshole square
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  5. 01-24-12 06:59 PM #5
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    make light of bet amount
    goad others to conclude they are losing minimal amounts even at 20 cent lines
    sign up squares to square books
    affiliate
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  6. 01-24-12 07:01 PM #6
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    it obviously technically matters, but I'm sure he means like who gives a shit if the actual dollar amount itself is low.
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  7. 01-24-12 07:02 PM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Buddy asked me..well had an argument and I told him it does matter no matter how much you bet the lower juice is better.
    Gotta love pillow talk, right JJ?

    Look on the bright side though J... make up sex is always great!
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  8. 01-24-12 07:04 PM #8
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    its all relative and percentage based. nothing changes. Unless you are betting over your head. But then you are dumb to begin with
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  9. 01-24-12 07:04 PM #9
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    Is there juice in winning?
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  10. 01-24-12 07:04 PM #10
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    jj has buddies what kind of buddies
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  11. 01-24-12 07:06 PM #11
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    Daddy how much do you bet??

    If you make 200 bets per year and save 11 cents juice per bet how much is that??
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  12. 01-24-12 07:06 PM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post

    Is there juice in winning?

    If you win who gives a damn about juice - Only losers worry about vig
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  13. 01-24-12 07:08 PM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Daddy how much do you bet??

    If you make 200 bets per year and save 11 cents juice per bet how much is that??
    One unit per bet J.
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  14. 01-24-12 07:48 PM #14
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    WTF!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    If you win who gives a damn about juice - Only losers worry about vig
    So you win EVERY FUKKIN' BET?!
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  15. 01-24-12 07:52 PM #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrmarket View Post
    make light of bet amount
    goad others to conclude they are losing minimal amounts even at 20 cent lines
    sign up squares to square books
    affiliate
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    Yo're right, man. Why fight stupid? Some guy once said "no one goes broke underestimating intelligence." Or something like that. Maybe I'll start a website and invite some of these guys to stop by.
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  16. 01-24-12 07:55 PM #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by 135steward View Post

    So you win EVERY FUKKIN' BET?!




    tongue in cheek


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  17. 01-24-12 07:56 PM #17
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    jj why didnt you just tell him that there's no juice when you win
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  18. 01-24-12 08:00 PM #18
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    it matters because the higher the juice, the higher the break even point


    the whole 'only losers pay juice' crap only comes out of the mouth of dumbasses, when you lose, you lose the same amount no matter the juice, when you win, juice determines your return

    so the truth is that 'only winners pay juice' or better yet 'only winners pay low juice'


    and anyhow why would you settle for a lower price? you lose thousands of dollars by getting a bad price, if you get 10 cent worst odds on every bet, and bet 1,000 per bet, that means you lose 100 dollars on every wager, if you win 200 wagers during the year thats 20,000 you just gave away


    and if you are playing at a book with bad odds, its 100% certain that you are playing at a recreational book, which means you are not making sh it gambling
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  19. 01-24-12 09:37 PM #19
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    LOL $20 to some is the same as $100....so yes, it does matter to some people.
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  20. 01-24-12 09:40 PM #20
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    juice is juice...regardless if you bet 10k or 10 dollars.
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  21. 01-24-12 09:41 PM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post

    I told him that and he said I am an asshole square
    Sounds like you were both right then
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  22. 01-24-12 09:46 PM #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    well had an argument and I told him it does matter no matter how much you bet the lower juice is better.
    jjgold, one of the great thinkers of his day.
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  23. 01-24-12 09:52 PM #23
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    That is why I like NFL playoffs. Lots of people to find and wager against your picks. Milk them for the extra 0.5 -1 point and no juice on the bet. Just have to make sure you can find and kick the shyytt out of them later if they don't pay up.
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  24. 01-24-12 10:09 PM #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Buddy asked me..well had an argument and I told him it does matter no matter how much you bet the lower juice is better.
    To a guy trying to turn a profit it would matter more when your bankroll only allows $20 bets..

    To the striaght gamblers just betting the home team or whatever probably go broke too fast for low juice to help much.
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  25. 01-24-12 11:28 PM #25
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    At -110, you have to hit 53% to be profitable.
    At -105, you have to hit 52% to be profitable.

    Stakes do not matter.
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  26. 01-24-12 11:32 PM #26
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    Guys hitting 52% suck dick to pay rent. Guys hitting 53% party with chicks and get free blow.
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  27. 01-25-12 12:22 AM #27
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    Thanks men

    good stuff
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  28. 01-25-12 12:55 AM #28
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    $100 gambler at -110 playing 1 game per day will lose $3650 over 1 year to juice.

    Think of the money you'd save by getting the +EV number.

    If u wager at -110 then ur working for the books. The end
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  29. 01-25-12 01:22 AM #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bcatswin View Post
    jj has buddies what kind of buddies


    Was thinking same thing!

    JJ you aint got ANY friends bud! LOL
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  30. 01-25-12 02:39 AM #30
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    who cares jj buried the whole forum today with daddys bobcats play.
    only a few sharps on here took the knicks. they knew how to read into all the politics.

    but anyways juice really makes more of a difference comparing short term and long term instead of low bet size/high bet size
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  31. 01-25-12 02:43 AM #31
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    If you're betting a lot of games, then sure even at 20$ a pop juice matters.

    The goal is always to make a profit, therefore by that rationale even if you were to risk 11 cents to win 10 then the juice matters.

    From a financial standpoint it would be different for everyone. It would matter more to some than others.
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