[topgame85]

For security of funds, ease of deposit/withdrawal etc.? -130, -150?
I'd be willing to pay no more than -120 on straight wagers or else I would stay offshore.

[LLXC]

I think they can still charge -110 and just tax.

[topgame85]

I think they can still charge -110 and just tax.

They could and make a fortune by why when they could charge 2,3,4 times that and people still bet into it. Would probably not offer many if any bonuses as well. Huge profits to be made here although the donations they get from special intersts aka casinos and mob are also very lucrative

[iceminers26]

there is no way these corupt fuks would only charge (110), they are as greedy as they come... best we can hope for is (120) on straights and 2:1 on 2 team pars... they will fk us any way they can

[starfire]

Tg~ lets not worry about Gov Regulations.
Can u start Capping tomorrows games?

[chemicalbrother]

wasn't there a state (washington?) that legalized sports betting? i think i remember the parlay payouts being just awful.

the way i figure it, if the US gov regulated sports betting and was hanging -120 (or worse), it'd probably be easier than it is now to play on pinny or matchbook, so i'd probably be there. basically if the government ran sportsbetting sites (they never would obv), they'd still have to have the best price for me to be playing there.

[kisado]

I'm not betting into -120 lines no matter WTF owns and/or runs it. I'm thinking of moving out of country so I can be at Pinny. Fck this bulshlt.

[EmpireMaker]

Why the *uck would anyone ever take more than -110 lines ???

[iceminers26]

I'm not betting into -120 lines no matter WTF owns and/or runs it. I'm thinking of moving out of country so I can be at Pinny. Fck this bulshlt.

dude I consider myself a pretty sane guy but I'm about one more govermental fk up from going off on the US Gov. and I'm talking suicide mission going in blazing trying to pick off as many as I can before they take me out... so sick of these lazy fks.... or I guess I could just move like you say and have my freedom back

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

They could and make a fortune by why when they could charge 2,3,4 times that and people still bet into it. Would probably not offer many if any bonuses as well. Huge profits to be made here although the donations they get from special intersts aka casinos and mob are also very lucrative

it would be illegal in it self for The US government to make a profit on losses as the "bookie".( unless they allow you to write off 100% of your losses which i doubt since thats not even a option in the stock market). I beleive if they regulated it, it would have to be a exchange like matchbook with a 1% commission on both ends. Sounds great but you will get tax 35% on all withdraw so in essence you betting in -140 lines.

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

if they charged -120 lines and 35% in taxes it would be near impossible to ever make a profit
Not to mention SE tax of 10%+ if your consistently claiming earnings by this means

[illfuuptn]

ummmmmmm you wouldn't be cashing out like....ever if you played into -120's on spreads. Would you rather have safe funds that you'll for sure lose or slightly less-safe funds which you might lose?

[topgame85]

with deposit/withdrawal fees the way they are and the risk of confiscation, site shut downs and theft I would be willing to pay -120 but not a cent more, just my opinion, was looking for others opinions.

[NSN21]

I would never bet above -110. If they tried charging higher than that, I would just stay offshore.

[iceminers26]

I would never bet above -110. If they tried charging higher than that, I would just stay offshore.

If the US Govt decides to enter the industry, they will eliminate the competition and you will no longer have the option to continue playing offshore if you are a US citizen. These guys are pricks and don't care, they are in it to maximize profits and don't care who they fk over or how they do it, just as long as the get their cut.

[topgame85]

Considering that as discussed proline/sports select in canada offers -130/-155 lines and 1-1 payoffs on 2 teamers -120 does not seem too bad and peace of mind comes at a price

[vyomguy]

sports betting will never be legal in america...FACT

[megamillionslose]

we will never see it legalized in any other states during our lifetimes.Degenerate Delaware bettors can only wager on multiple team parlays.That may be the closest any other state will ever come

[rfr3sh]

ya good luck beating any major sport with 40 cent spread lines

[topgame85]

ya good luck beating any major sport with 40 cent spread lines

Not likely small percentage still would but lets be honest now maybe 2% win long term and other 98% are doing it for entertainment or because they are dilussional anyways so people would still do it for entertainment or because they would think they could beat the -120,-130, -150 etc. They would not want anyone who could beat them playing anyways so it works perfectly for them.

[illfuuptn]

If the US Govt decides to enter the industry, they will eliminate the competition and you will no longer have the option to continue playing offshore if you are a US citizen. These guys are pricks and don't care, they are in it to maximize profits and don't care who they fk over or how they do it, just as long as the get their cut.

and what's more likely is an all-out prohibition. But let me go on record as saying I would continue to find ways to bet offshore and the books would continue to find ways to serve us. What they are trying to do is 100% unconstitutional. Offshores are not under their jurisdiction and never will be. The only thing they can control is payment and there will always be easy ways around that. They can not discriminate by allowing 4 states or whatever it is to provide sports betting and then tell all other states and their citizens that they will have to travel to bet. That is not equal opportunity for all citizens.

[face]

sports betting will never be legal in america...FACT

las vegas

[topgame85]

and what's more likely is an all-out prohibition. But let me go on record as saying I would continue to find ways to bet offshore and the books would continue to find ways to serve us. What they are trying to do is 100% unconstitutional. Offshores are not under their jurisdiction and never will be. The only thing they can control is payment and there will always be easy ways around that. They can not discriminate by allowing 4 states or whatever it is to provide sports betting and then tell all other states and their citizens that they will have to travel to bet. That is not equal opportunity for all citizens.

Absolutely accurate, the constitution will be completely unkonown by the youth of this nation within 20 years. It is already los to the masses as it is. The supposed top law of the United States is violated daily by those sworn to protect it. Sad world we live in.

[iceminers26]

and what's more likely is an all-out prohibition. But let me go on record as saying I would continue to find ways to bet offshore and the books would continue to find ways to serve us. What they are trying to do is 100% unconstitutional. Offshores are not under their jurisdiction and never will be. The only thing they can control is payment and there will always be easy ways around that. They can not discriminate by allowing 4 states or whatever it is to provide sports betting and then tell all other states and their citizens that they will have to travel to bet. That is not equal opportunity for all citizens.

Agree, I'll find a way too and even though I wouldn't have to in order to bet offshore, I might even move out of the US anyways. The US Gov't acting unconsitutional, I call BS on that, now way would they do that . The sad thing is if these fks were not so greedy and actually realized the profit they could made even by throwing out say Pinny lines or if they want to juice a little more like 5dimes lines, and on top of it being able to tax it; they have a fkn goldmine even if they throw out the best lines for players because of taxes on top. However the real problem is the majority of people that represent the US have a problem in minding their own business and over-stepping their boundries, primarily why outsiders can't stand Americans. And yes I am American, just calling it how I see it.

[illfuuptn]

^ I will absolutely have no problem moving out of the US once I graduate college. I don't fall for the "be patriotic, land of the free, best nation in the world, founding fathers are great" bullshit. I'm a young person who is not afraid to say "You know what USA? **** you. Bye." The government assumes people with deal with their shit because we're afraid to leave. I'm not bluffing and neither are countless other Americans(especially young ones). And this obviously extends far beyond sports betting laws lol.

[illfuuptn]

Damn didn't even realize it when I was doing it but that was a pretty great 1000th post

[topgame85]

congrats ill, don't get in ny trouble before that time including something as small as a DUI or else you may find yourself in the US of A far longer than you plan

[Powderguy]

the govt can lick my nuts

[Inkwell77]

The government would be out of their mind to regulate sports betting, would never happen. (In the sense of the government is the one taking the bets)
If it ever is to become legal, which I doubt, it would have to be like in the UK/Vegas.

Imagine betting booths inside an NFL stadium or NBA arena, amazing!!!!!

[MichaelWaters]

The government would be out of their mind to regulate sports betting, would never happen. (In the sense of the government is the one taking the bets)
If it ever is to become legal, which I doubt, it would have to be like in the UK/Vegas.

Imagine betting booths inside an NFL stadium or NBA arena, amazing!!!!!

also porno/spanking booths inside WNBA arenas would be good as well

[jjgold]

For security of funds, ease of deposit/withdrawal etc.? -130, -150?
I'd be willing to pay no more than -120 on straight wagers or else I would stay offshore.

you fukkin square

You cannot win betting -110

Nothing will ever compare to Europe Bookmaking