[sweetjones55]

I am on the Mercury -3 LOCKED (x1) tomorrow. The line has since moved to Mercury -7.5 which I still think has value.

[phillybadboy]

the line was already-7 when you posted this play. how did you get -3? when did you put in this play? when you put out this play were your customers able to get the -3 as well? anyone can cheat and put in a play when the original line has moved, you're posting a play at -3 when the availble is -7, 4 point difference?

[sweetjones55]

the line was already-7 when you posted this play. how did you get -3? when did you put in this play? when you put out this play were your customers able to get the -3 as well? anyone can cheat and put in a play when the original line has moved, you're posting a play at -3 when the availble is -7, 4 point difference?

I made the play at 11:22AM. Here is the line movements on the game. I don't have WNBA customers by the way, I post everything for free. I dont' cheat. The other day I made a play on the Sky -6, the opening line was -3.5 but I wasn't fast enough to get it so I didn't post that. Today I was waiting on this game and pounced on it. The key to sports betting is to beat the closing line and to do so you have to be quick and hit these lines when they are at their weakest points.

07/07 02:33 PM -9 -105 +9 -105
07/07 02:33 PM -8½ -113 +8½ +102
07/07 02:08 PM -8½ -109 +8½ -101
07/07 01:43 PM -8½ -101 +8½ -109
07/07 01:14 PM -8 -110 +8 +100
07/07 01:14 PM -7½ -119 +7½ +108
07/07 01:08 PM -7½ -113 +7½ +102
07/07 12:42 PM -7½ -108 +7½ -102
07/07 12:30 PM -7½ -106 +7½ -104
07/07 12:29 PM -7½ -105 +7½ -105
07/07 12:28 PM -7½ -104 +7½ -106
07/07 12:01 PM -7½ -101 +7½ -109
07/07 12:01 PM -7 -109 +7 -101
07/07 12:00 PM -7 -104 +7 -106
07/07 12:00 PM -7 -101 +7 -109
07/07 11:59 AM -7½ -102 +7½ -108
07/07 11:52 AM -7½ -107 +7½ -103
07/07 11:40 AM -7½ -108 +7½ -102
07/07 11:39 AM -7 -113 +7 +102
07/07 11:39 AM -7 -105 +7 -105
07/07 11:39 AM -6½ -113 +6½ +102
07/07 11:33 AM -6½ -103 +6½ -107
07/07 11:26 AM -6½ -102 +6½ -108
07/07 11:24 AM -6½ -103 +6½ -107
07/07 11:23 AM -5½ -117 +5½ +106
07/07 11:23 AM -5½ -109 +5½ -101
07/07 11:23 AM -5 -115 +5 +104
07/07 11:22 AM -4 -123 +4 +111
07/07 11:22 AM -4 -115 +4 +104
07/07 11:22 AM -4 -108 +4 -102
07/07 11:22 AM -4 -105 +4 -105
07/07 11:22 AM -3½ -109 +3½ -101
07/07 11:21 AM -3 -115 +3 +104
07/07 11:21 AM -3 -108 +3 -102

[sweetjones55]

I am on the Mercury -3 LOCKED (x1) tomorrow. The line has since moved to Mercury -7.5 which I still think has value.

I hope everyone at least got Mercury -7.5, line is now Mercury -9.

[Inkwell77]

You're middling your play, right?
A 6 point middle seems nice.

The line movements in WNBA games are crazy.

[sweetjones55]

You're middling your play, right?
A 6 point middle seems nice.

The line movements in WNBA games are crazy.

I don't think so. I really like this play. I am not really much of a middler. Maybe I'll do a 2H middle play of some sort if I am not looking good.

[crustyme]

the line was already-7 when you posted this play. how did you get -3? when did you put in this play? when you put out this play were your customers able to get the -3 as well? anyone can cheat and put in a play when the original line has moved, you're posting a play at -3 when the availble is -7, 4 point difference?

good catch.

frauds like this loser will always cheat on lines so he can count losers as winners. this is something his idol, brandon lang, does well.

[phillybadboy]

i'm not saying you cheat, but if you want to keep a record for posted plays, then make sure the line you play is available at the time you post, not oh the line is -7 now but i played it at -3,

[HoulihansTX]

Once you go tout, its hard to find friends on SBR. LOL

Posters like it free and easy.

[phillybadboy]

good catch.

frauds like this loser will always cheat on lines so he can count losers as winners. this is something his idol, brandon lang, does well.

never seen him count losers as wins, but when he hedges he doesn't count the loss?

[phillybadboy]

Once you go tout, its hard to find friends on SBR. LOL

Posters like it free and easy.

no dude, i think it's not fair to post a play at -3 when the only line available at time of post is -7

[sweetjones55]

Mercury -3 LOCKED (x1)

I am rolling with the Phoenix Mercury playing on the road at Tulsa Shock. The Mercury are 6-4 this year while the Shock are just 1-9. I am just sensing a ton of weakness from the Shock. Tulsa's team is just built very odd. They have a bunch of forwards and centers but barely any guards. They only have two legit guards on the entire roster, Ivory Latta and Andrea Riley. Latta is good but Riley is downright horrible. She is a 33% FG shooter lifetime. The only other guard on the entire roster is Marion Jones, former track runner. She is a joke and shouldn't even be in the league. On the other hand, the Mercury have outstanding guard play. Diana Taurasi is one of the best players in this league and can really light it up. I don't know who Tulsa will try and put on her to slow her down. Tameka and Marie can also put the ball int he basket. Candice Dupree also plays around the permitter a decent amount and is very good putting the ball down and going to the basket.

Tulsa is just in complete disarray right now. The entire town wants the coach fired. He has never coached a womens team and is failing miserably right now. It's not entirely his fault as the team just doesn't have any talent. This team shoots a good amount of airballs... in pregame warmups! That is unheard of even in HS Basketball. On top of the fact that Tulsa is by far the worst team in the league, three of their starters are hurt in Holt, Jackson and Swoopes. Holt is OUT tomorrow night, she averages 7.5ppg 4.5rpg. Jackson is questionable and averages 9.4ppg and 7.1rpg and Swoopes is probable and averages 6.7ppg and 3rpg.

Phoenix has owned Tulsa the last four times they have played them. They are 4-0 SU and 3-1ATS last four games vs Tulsa. They have won by +23 Points average in their last two meetings in Tulsa. They have won by +16.5 points the last four meetings vs Tulsa.

Another profitable angle I see on this game is the fact that Tulsa has not played in 8 days prior to this game. Long layoffs usually hurt WNBA teams a lot, they usually come out rusty shooting the ball. That is bad news for Tulsa as they are already the worst shooting team in the league at 39.9%. This is a scary stat for Tulsa but Phoenix nearly shoots better from 3 Pointers (37.43%) than Tulsa shoots from the field (39.9%).

The big reason I like Phoenix is the credit the linesmakers give Tulsa for home court. Home court advantage is huge in the WNBA and the lines reflect this. But in the case of Tulsa, I feel as if they should get no points for home court yet they linesmakers do and in that lies the line value. Tulsa has the worst fan attendance in the league and I really think fans come out just to watch the opposition at this point. They have no home court advantage whatsoever. It makes no sense to me how they are +14 on the road all the time yet they come home and they only catch +5 to +9.

The Shock were just 5-12 ATS at home last year and are 2-3 ATS home this year. That's a combined 7-15 (31%) ATS at home the past two years. The Shock average 72.3ppg and have only scored over 80 points once this year. I really think they will have to score 90 to keep up with Phoenix. I don't see that happening at all with all the injuries, bad coaching and lack of chemistry. I think the Mercury will win comfortably by about 13-17 points.

[sweetjones55]

no dude, i think it's not fair to post a play at -3 when the only line available at time of post is -7

I made the play at 11:22AM Philly. Go to my Sports Promotions thread and I'll show you.

[phillybadboy]

I made the play at 11:22AM Philly. Go to my Sports Promotions thread and I'll show you.

just went there, nothin posted at 11.00 nothin about -3, all i'm sayin is just post plays with availble current lines, and send out plays to your clients at current available lines, its only fair

[sweetjones55]

just went there, nothin posted at 11.00 nothin about -3, all i'm sayin is just post plays with availble current lines, and send out plays to your clients at current available lines, its only fair

Go check the thread in Sports Promos now.

[70kgman]

Go check the thread in Sports Promos now.

LoL. Nice photoshop. Too bad you forgot to Photoshop out the small clock in the upper right hand corner where it says 11:58. The line was -7.5 at 11:58.

[rfr3sh]

where is this thread I am looking for it

[phillybadboy]

LoL. Nice photoshop. Too bad you forgot to Photoshop out the small clock in the upper right hand corner where it says 11:58. The line was -7.5 at 11:58.

i also notice that, but didn't wana point it out because i'm ot sure how these things work, with the time and computers and all that

[crustyme]

LoL. Nice photoshop. Too bad you forgot to Photoshop out the small clock in the upper right hand corner where it says 11:58. The line was -7.5 at 11:58.

[phillybadboy]

Go check the thread in Sports Promos now.

people manipulate screenshots all the time not saying you do, but just send out plays at available lines and post plays at avaible lines, its only fair

[rfr3sh]

SJ burried

[sweetjones55]

LoL. Nice photoshop. Too bad you forgot to Photoshop out the small clock in the upper right hand corner where it says 11:58. The line was -7.5 at 11:58.

Yes it was 11:58. Did you really think at 11:22AM when I took the play that I knew I was going to have to prove to all these doubters on SBR wrong and take a screenshot? I don't get what your saying at all.

[sweetjones55]

people manipulate screenshots all the time not saying you do, but just send out plays at available lines and post plays at avaible lines, its only fair

First of all, please don't tell me what to do. No one is forcing you to come into this thread. Also, I am doing this all for free. I really owe absolutely nothing to you.

Second of all, I don't understand why you feel the need to tell me this. I did exactly what you're asking me to do. I put out Mercury -3 at 11:22AM and as you clearly see it was available on Pinnacle at that time.

[70kgman]

Yes it was 11:58. Did you really think at 11:22AM when I took the play that I knew I was going to have to prove to all these doubters on SBR wrong and take a screenshot? I don't get what your saying at all.

Was just pointing out an obvious flaw in your screenshot. You were posting it at proof you made the wager at 11:22, but all it was is a screenshot taken at 11:58 of something you claim you wrote at 11:22. That proves nothing. If you didn't think it was necessary to take a screenshot at 11:22 to "prove the doubters wrong", then it shouldn't of been necessary to take a screenshot at 11:58 (which was before you posted the play and could of been questioned about the number you got) either.

[rfr3sh]

well to end it just post a screenshot of the wager with the the line -3
then people who doubted you won't anymore
but if you say you cant then what do you think is gonna happen

[sweetjones55]

Was just pointing out an obvious flaw in your screenshot. You were posting it at proof you made the wager at 11:22, but all it was is a screenshot taken at 11:58 of something you claim you wrote at 11:22. That proves nothing. If you didn't think it was necessary to take a screenshot at 11:22 to "prove the doubters wrong", then it shouldn't of been necessary to take a screenshot at 11:58 (which was before you posted the play and could of been questioned about the number you got) either.

The point is that you can clearly see that I sent out the email at 11:22AM, the same time the line was available at -3.

[sweetjones55]

well to end it just post a screenshot of the wager with the the line -3
then people who doubted you won't anymore
but if you say you cant then what do you think is gonna happen

I've posted screenshots of my wagers over ten times from people doubting me and the lines I get. I said the last time when paco doubted me and I proved him wrong with a screenshot that it would the last time.

[phillybadboy]

well to end it just post a screenshot of the wager with the the line -3 then people who doubted you won't anymore but if you say you cant then what do you think is gonna happen

screenhots can be fake, my point is if someone post a play, it should be at available lines at time of post

[shari91]

The point is that you can clearly see that I sent out the email at 11:22AM, the same time the line was available at -3.

Ok, I never comment in your threads about this stuff but do you realise what you're expecting people to believe and why they're having trouble with it? The line was -3 at 11:21 according to your post above. By the millisecond it turned 11:22 it was already -3.5. You're saying you saw the line at -3 at 11:21, entered your wager amount, waited for it to confirm and then sent out the email to everyone at 11:22? It took you a minute to type the email up, select the "group" to send it to and that's it? Even if you grabbed the line at the very millisecond it first was -3 at 11:21 you do realise that to place the bet and wait for it to confirm and then to send the email would take more than a minute? Unless you magically knew beforehand what the line would open at and had pretyped the email before placing the bet and then managed to place the bet, confirm and then switch tabs to send the email all within a minute. Do you see how ridiculous that sounds? Add to that, people on your email list have come in to your Promos thread to say they never received that email from you at all.

And then you took a screenshot 30 minutes later although you hadn't even posted the play here yet so no one had obviously doubted you. But you didn't even post the screenshot for another 20 minutes after that at 12:28. I'm sorry but I'm probably the least cynical person out there and even I'm calling bullshit here. The first paragraph I typed alone is almost impossible to have occurred as you say unless, well I'm not sure how.

Edited to add: You're correct in that you're posting these plays "for free". This is not the Sports Promotions forum. Everyone is posting their plays for free or they'd be restricted from posting. But if you want to develop credibility then you should at least consider what people are saying to you when they're offering you feedback.

[70kgman]

The point is that you can clearly see that I sent out the email at 11:22AM, the same time the line was available at -3.

And my point was I doubt that time stamp one the email was authentic, easy to tamper with in photoshop. The line was available -3 only at 11:22. So...not only were you miraculously able to get the -3 in the 30 seconds or whatever it was available, but you had time to place the wager, open email, write a couple hundred word email, and send the email all before the clock turned 11:23? Doubtful. Plus like I pointed out, you took the screenshot before you ever even posted the play. The phony "evidence" was premeditated. But I don't really care one way or another, so this is my last post in this thread.

[sweetjones55]

And my point was I doubt that time stamp one the email was authentic, easy to tamper with in photoshop. The line was available -3 only at 11:22. So...not only were you miraculously able to get the -3 in the 30 seconds or whatever it was available, but you had time to place the wager, open email, write a couple hundred word email, and send the email all before the clock turned 11:23? Doubtful. Plus like I pointed out, you took the screenshot before you ever even posted the play. The phony "evidence" was premeditated. But I don't really care one way or another, so this is my last post in this thread.

There is no way you will ever believe this but I promise you that I had already typed up the email and the only thing I left blank was the line.

[sweetjones55]

Ok, I never comment in your threads about this stuff but do you realise what you're expecting people to believe and why they're having trouble with it? The line was -3 at 11:21 according to your post above. By the millisecond it turned 11:22 it was already -3.5. You're saying you saw the line at -3 at 11:21, entered your wager amount, waited for it to confirm and then sent out the email to everyone at 11:22? It took you a minute to type the email up, select the "group" to send it to and that's it? Even if you grabbed the line at the very millisecond it first was -3 at 11:21 you do realise that to place the bet and wait for it to confirm and then to send the email would take more than a minute? Unless you magically knew beforehand what the line would open at and had pretyped the email before placing the bet and then managed to place the bet, confirm and then switch tabs to send the email all within a minute. Do you see how ridiculous that sounds? Add to that, people on your email list have come in to your Promos thread to say they never received that email from you at all.

Honestly, I don't really care what people believe or don't believe at this point. I post up all of my plays I take, why I am taking them and track the play daily. If people want to doubt me then that's fine. I know it's a part of the game and there will always be the naysayers. I've posted all my plays here for two years and everyone knows that I have always been very honest.

[HoulihansTX]

SBR haz turned on SJ, b/c he went tout.

Un f'n real

[sweetjones55]

SBR haz turned on SJ, b/c he went tout.

Un f'n real

Lol. The really funny part is that technically I haven't even gone tout. I haven't sold a single thing. All I've done is gone 4-0 this summer with all of the plays being posted up on SBR for free.

[blackbeSSt]

only line i could find at 11:22/23 was -5 at pinnacle