Originally posted on 01/16/2018:

Quote Originally Posted by thechaoz View Post
Jesus penetrating christ, you guys are unreal. I'll give you a pass because it seems you may have missed some context.

The reason they don't care about flipping (they don't have sbr poker for rake alone obviously), is because it is way more hands per hour, and for the most part, more rake.

So if I'm jamming 50 a pot and my opponent is as well, that's 100 points a pot , at a very quick pace mind you. The average hand on a table playing regular poker (assuming a 25/50 table) is def not 100 points and it doesn't take 8 seconds like a flip. It's probably a minute to a minute and a half on average.

SBR doesn't care how you win or lose your points. Regular poker or flips. Someone is winning the hand, someone is losing, and they are getting their rake either way. That's why they have never banned it, nor can they. It's part of the game.

It's like saying let's ban guys who hit on 19 at the blackjack table. It may be dumb, but it's part of the game.
Presumably, SBR poker exists to encourage enough people to play poker at SBR to reach a critical mass; from that position, SBR would have better business options (sponsoring, a model that was point-profitable, etc). Flipping doesn't do anything to further their goals; getting people on the table and some number of hands per hour is irrelevant when it doesn't encourage people to play actual poker.

At a normal site with a profitable business model, they wouldn't care if you flipped. SBR giving you free points and only making you rake away a small percentage of them is the opposite of profit though; it's an incentive to get people playing poker, and flipping doesn't meet that goal. The best guesses for why they haven't banned it are that it would take a decent amount of effort to enforce, and they probably hoped not to make a big deal out of it and hope that a poker-playing community would still evolve somehow. Unfortunately, that hasn't happened, for a reason that isn't flipping but is related: most people who play here are only doing so because SBR runs huge overlay tournaments which are virtually free. There's probably no more than 20 of us who would play with actual points and not free tournament winnings, and even fewer who have the time for it. The rest either don't care enough to do so, aren't good enough to do so, or both.

Given the current setup and rules, flipping isn't illegal, but it's certainly against the spirit of why they hand out poker points. Should that keep people from flipping? Probably not...but if nothing else, it puts flippers in company with people who are unable to win at cash games and have to resort to losing the least by flipping (I don't think any names need to be mentioned there!)