Originally posted on 07/05/2017:

Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post
Nor could conservatives benefit without the collective


It's almost as if both sides need each other but fail to realize it
AHHH, but there in lies the great divide!

To a conservative, the collective is a church or community group acting in s just or moral way to serve the greater good of the community for the benefit of advancing the needs of those who cannot help themselves, funded voluntarily, out of moral and humane responsibility.

To a liberal, the collective is the government, creating a voting base out of wealth redistribution, taken from those who have earned it, by tax (or legal gunpoint- there is no difference), involuntarily, without regard to the just or moral beliefs from which the funds were derived.

One is generosity serving humility, one is redistribution serving entitlement.