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    NFLx Sat info.

    Too many games today so I'll post game with line move and QB rotation.

    Was @ NYJ Line with NYJ -3 Over/Und 35.5 not much movement here

    Min @ BAL Line Open with Bal -3 Over/Und 33 the line drop to Bal -1.5 and the Und/Over up from 33 to 34.5 right now.

    Mia @ Jac Opeen jac -3.5 Over/Und 33. Total move up from 33 to 34.5

    Ind @ ATL Open with Ind -1 Over/Und 36 Now line move to ATL -3 and Total also move up to 37.5

    SD @ STL Open with STL -1 Over/Und 37 line now Move to STL -3

    Hou @ NO Open with NO -4 36.5 now line drop to NO -3

    ARI @ KC Open KC -3 Over/Und 34.5 now line drop to KC -1

    GB @ SF Open with SF -3 34.5 Big line drop from SF -3 to GB -2

    DAL @ DEN Open DEN -1 Over/Und 37 line move uo to DEN -3

    CHI @ SEA Open sea-3 35.5 line drop to CHI -1 35

    QB Rotation:

    Washington Redskins - QB Rotation: Jason Campbell, Todd Collins, Derek Devine, rookie Colt Brennan.

    QB Jason Campbell will open the game with the first-team offense. Backup Todd Collins will follow and play most of the first half. In a change, Derek Devine will start the third quarter and Colt Brennan will enter in the fourth and finish the game.

    Coach Jim Zorn expects several players to return for Saturday's game against the Jets, such as WR Devin Thomas (hamstring). Thomas is coming back from nearly a 2 1/2-week absence because of a hamstring problem. Starting wide receiver Antwaan Randle El (hamstring, wrist) is a game-time decision.

    Wide receivers Anthony Mix (ribs) and Malcolm Kelly (knee), linebacker H.B. Blades (knee), and offensive linemen Todd Wade (ankle) and Stephon Heyer (knee) are not practicing and likely to miss at least this week.

    NY Jets - QB Rotation: Brett Favre (will start), Kellen Clemens, rookie Erik Ainge, Brett Ratliff.

    The Jets added QB Brett Favre last week. Eric Mangini named Favre as the Jets' starter against Washington.

    QB Ratliff has performed so well that speculation has arisen that he's pushing Kellen Clemens for the No. 2 QB spot. He finished 14-of-20 for 252 yards and the two TDs, and has been impressive in practices. He will get significant playing time against the Redskins.

    Minnesota Vikings - QB Rotation: Tarvaris Jackson, Gus Frerotte, John David Booty, Brooks Bollinger.

    Lots of passing: Vikings coach Brad Childress tried something different when the offense ran 10 consecutive passing plays in the opener. No doubt Childress was preparing his team for the seven-and eight-man fronts they faced last year and will again this year as opponents try to stop running back Adrian Peterson.

    Baltimore Ravens - QB Rotation: Troy Smith, Kyle Boller, rookie Joe Flacco.

    QB Smith has looked good in camp and will start this game. Flacco is still up and down.

    Harbaugh said no one has taken the lead in the team's quarterback race. Throughout training camp, Kyle Boller, Troy Smith and Joe Flacco have rotated with the starting offense.

    By the end of Thursday's practice, almost half the starters on offense - WR Derrick Mason (knee), tight end Todd Heap (calf), RB Willis McGahee (knee) and offensive tackles Jared Gaither (ankle) and Adam Terry (ankle) - were sidelined with injuries. While all these players are expected to be ready for the regular season, it's unknown whether the offense will be.

    Miami Dolphins - QB Rotation: Josh McCown, John Beck, rookie Chad Henne, Chad Pennington.

    Newly acquired QB Chad Pennington practice for the first time Monday and coach Tony Soparano said that he will manage his four quarterbacks based on feel. Pennington and Henne have been taking the most snaps.

    How much new Dolphins quarterback Chad Pennington will play Saturday is still up in the air. From the division of practice snaps, it is obvious Saturday will feature mostly the two quarterbacking Chads, Pennington and rookie Henne. Dolphins coach Tony Sparano also made noises -- wanting to see more of safety Jason Allen, wanting to see WRs Derek Hagan and Ted Ginn Jr. on more consecutive plays -- that translated as the Dolphins' first teamers playing much more in the second exhibition game, as is typical.

    The offensive line will certainly see its share of shake-ups, which likely will cause some considerable changes to the depth chart throughout the preseason. Justin Smiley is currently listed as the starter at left guard, and Trey Darilek is listed at right guard. Given Smiley's recent struggles on the left side and Donald Thomas' recent emergence on the right side, there's likely to be some different combinations used before anything is settled at that position, too.

    Jacksonville Jaguars - QB Rotation: David Garrard, Cleo Lemon, Todd Bauman.

    Coach Jack Del Rio indicated there's no competition for the backup quarterback job. He said Cleo Lemon is the backup, and Todd Bouman is No. 3.

    Because of injuries to Jerry Porter (hamstring) and Reggie Williams (knee), there's a chance that Dennis Northcutt could take on the role as the Jaguars' No. 1 receiver for the second consecutive season. WR Troy Williamson is practicing, but he's not going full speed.

    Indianapolis Colts - QB Rotation: Jim Sorgi (will start), Jared Lorenzen, Quinn Gray, Adam Tafarlis.

    Atlanta Falcons - QB Rotation: Joey Harrington, Matt Ryan, Chris Redman, D.J. Shockley.

    QB Joey Harrington will start. Rookie QB Matt Ryan should replace him and get extended playing time. Redman and Shockley seem likely candidates to play in the second half against the Colts.

    With Atlanta wanting to see how Ryan handles NFL pressure, it wouldn't be shocking to see him play early and for a prolonged period. Ryan also appears to be in line to start against Tennessee Aug. 22 at the Georgia Dome. That would leave D.J. Shockley to start the preseason finale at Baltimore Aug. 28. Should Ryan start against the Titans, it could be an indication that the rookie will start the regular-season opener.

    The new head coach is Mike Smith, with Mike Mularkey taking over as offensive coordinator. Smith was the defensive coordinator of the Jaguars and faces his old team here.

    San Diego Chargers - QB Rotation: Philip Rivers, Billy Volek, Charlie Whitehurst, Casey Bramlet.

    Norv Turner said QB Philip Rivers was not the only player he will limit Saturday in St. Louis after playing many starters the bulk of the first half against Dallas. "I want to continue to evaluate our young guys," Turner said. "Normally in the preseason you play the starters a quarter in the first game and a half the second. I am flipping it a little bit."

    St. Louis Rams - QB Rotation: Marc Bulger, Trent Green, Brock Berlin, Bruce Gradkowski.

    After seeing his troops pummeled 34-13 by the Titans, coach Scott Linehan is placing considerable importance on the outcome. Enough so that he plans to "play a significant amount with our starting unit." "I don't know what that means; when we're done, we're done," Linehan said. "But we want to play a great game on Saturday." Emerging victorious in St. Louis, where ticket sales are lagging, "is very important," Linehan added. "I don't discount the importance of any game, preseason or not. There's not a whole lot of good that comes out of losing a game."

    RB depth a concern with star Stephen Jackson holding out. Backups Antonio Pittman and Brian Leonard already have gotten enough reps to last a couple of training camps. Pittman's workload tonight might be limited by a thigh injury.

    Houston Texans - QB Rotation: Matt Schaub, Sage Rosenfels, Shane Boyd, rookie Alex Brink.

    Coach Gary Kubiak is still working closely with backup QBs Shane Boyd and Alex Brink, and one of the two likely will be selected as the team's third-stringer this season. Kubiak typically carries only two QBs on the roster, but because of the injuries suffered by Schaub last season, the Texans will likely carry three this year.

    RB depth a concern. Newly acquired RB Mike Bell continues to nurse a hamstring. Gary Kubiak didn't want to push RB Chris Brown Monday in his first practice back after almost a week. Ahman Green will get some carries against the Broncos.

    New Orleans Saints - QB Rotation: Drew Brees, Mark Brunell, Tyler Palko.

    Saints running back Deuce McAllister could play in Saturday's preseason game. Asked if McAllister will play, Sean Payton said: "Yeah, right now the plan is. We'll see where he's at. I want to make sure he gets enough carries in either this preseason game, No. 2, or No. 3 before we move on." McAllister has not played since Sept. 24, when he tore his left anterior cruciate ligament against the Tennessee Titans.

    running back Reggie Bush might miss Saturday.5?s game against the Texans. Bush missed practice Thursday because of swelling in his left knee.

    Payton also said he expects receiver Marques Colston, receiver Devery Henderson and rookie cornerback Tracy Porter to play Saturday. "I think you're going to see a number of the guys that we didn't see in Week 1 up for Week 2, barring any injury right now, " Payton said.

    Arizona Cardinals - QB Rotation: Matt Leinart, Kurt Warner, Brian St. Pierre, rookie Anthony Morelli.

    After not playing in last week's preseason game against the Saints, quarterback Kurt Warner is expected to start Saturday's game in Kansas City. Coach Ken Whisenhunt said he is leaning toward that decision.

    Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt is handing off most of the offensive play-calling duties for the upcoming season to coordinator Todd Haley.

    K.C. Chiefs - QB Rotation: Brodie Croyle, Tyler Thigpen, Damon Huard.

    Coach Herm Edwards said the Chiefs are likely to have the same quarterback rotation Saturday as they did last Thursday against Chicago. Brodie Croyle started and played two series, and Damon Huard replaced him for the rest of the first half. Tyler Thigpen played the second half. Edwards said he'd like Croyle to play in some 2-minute situations.

    Rookie defensive tackle Glenn Dorsey, the centerpiece of their rebuilding effort, injured his left knee in practice. Dorsey probably won.5?t play Saturday night when the Chiefs continue their preseason against the Cardinals at Arrowhead Stadium. But he could return to the starting lineup next week.

    Green Bay Packers - QB Rotation: Aaron Rodgers (30-35 plays), rookie Brian Brohm, Matt Flynn.

    HC Mike McCarthy said most starters would play between 30 and 35 plays Saturday.

    Green Bay is reshuffling the offensive line.

    Defensive line health is a concern. Nose tackle Daniel Muir was the latest defensive tackle to go down, leaving the team pretty thin. There are four defensive tackles out and two defensive ends. The tackles are Muir, Ryan Pickett (hamstring), Johnny Jolly (hip flexor) and Justin Harrell (back). The ends are Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila (knee) and Jeremy Thompson (neck stinger).

    McCarthy said the players who were sidelined for practice Thursday: receiver Brett Swain (thigh bruise), Grant (hamstring), safety Charlie Peprah (hamstring), linebacker A.J. Hawk (chest), linebacker Desmond Bishop (Achilles tendon), tight end Tory Humphrey (Achilles.5? tendon) and receiver Greg Jennings (knee), would "most likely" not play against the 49ers. Cornerback Al Harris appeared to still be bothered by a stiff back, so his status could also be in doubt.

    This Green Bay camp has been heavy on blitzing and it will be interesting to see whether defensive coordinator Bob Sanders will turn loose his squad right away. If he's going to blitz more this season, he's going to have to practice it a lot because timing and execution are so important.

    San Fran 49ers - QB Rotation: J.T. O'Sullivan (1st half), Alex Smith (3rd Q), Shaun Hill (4th Q), Drew Olsen.

    J.T. O'Sullivan will start against Green Bay. A solid performance against the Packers would clinch O'Sullivan's status as the 49ers No. 1 quarterback. Against the Packers, he will play most of the first half. Alex Smith and Shaun Hill will finish up over the final two quarters.

    Mike Martz is the new offensive coordinator. Martz is intent on making TE Vernon Davis a focal point of the offense.

    QB J.T. O'Sullivan looks like the most game-ready QB, thanks to the head start he had from working as a backup in Mike Martz's offense last year in Detroit.

    Dallas Cowboys - QB Rotation: Tony Romo, Brad Johnson, Richard Bartel.

    Cowboys coach Wade Phillips is calling this "Camp Marshmallow." It's been the school of soft knocks in training camp when it comes to hitting, but Phillips wanted it that way. He didn't want to overwork his team or get players hurt. He feels he got the needed work and has a fresh team steadily building toward the Sept. 7 opener at Cleveland. Phillips believes the team accomplished the mission in camp without full contact or wearing full pads very often.

    Denver Broncos - QB Rotation: Jay Cutler, Patrick Ramsey, Darrell Hackney.

    The Broncos are shaking up the logistics of their play-calling this year. First-year receivers coach Jedd Fisch will be up in the coaches' box, discussing plays with both Mike Shanahan and quarterbacks coach Jeremy Bates, who will be on the sideline. Bates then will relay the call to quarterback Jay Cutler.

    Chicago Bears - QB Rotation: Rex Grossman, Kyle Orton, Caleb Hanie.

    Grossman gets the starting nod this week, with Orton following.

    Seattle Seahawks - QB Rotation: Matt Hasselbeck, Seneca Wallace, Charlie Frye, Dalton Bell.

    QB Charlie Frye took 100 percent of the practice time with the first-unit offense on Thursday so he is likely the starter on Saturday. Quarterback Matt Hassebeck returned to practice on Thursday after missing the past four days because of a tight back. He's unlikely to play.

    The team is trying to find a halfback rotation with Maurice Morris and new additions Julius Jones and T.J. Duckett.

    WR concerns: WR Bobby Engram will miss six to eight weeks with a cracked bone in his right shoulder. WR Deion Branch is six months into what is typically a nine-month rehabilitation following reconstructive knee surgery. He likely will not be ready for the season opener.

    I'll update more later.



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    thanks tiger...funny how these threads with substance get no views, but the pick threads get hit up like crazy...

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    second that SforZ.........
    thanks WT for the quickly accessible info you post on here.

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    Well most people want to get free pick and do no home work. This threat only help people who really want to win on their own.
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    Big Line Move Alert:
    Sea Open @ -3 and now CHI -3 here might be a reason for it.
    #3 Frye might start for SEA.

    KIRKLAND – Seattle Seahawks quarterback Matt Hasselbeck knows precisely what Charlie Frye is experiencing now – because when Hasselbeck was in Green Bay, he was the player who used to get the majority of his playing time in August.
    Though nobody on the Seahawks’ coaching staff has made it official, it is apparent that Frye will start tonight in the team’s second exhibition game, against the Chicago Bears at Qwest Field.

    Hasselbeck has sat out almost the entire week with a sore back and did not take any reps with the first-team offense, providing him a pretty good clue that he will not be playing tonight.

    That leaves Frye with his first real opportunity to get significant playing time since he was acquired from the Cleveland Browns in a trade last season.

    “Packers tickets were hard to come by, but the toughest ticket for me was the preseason,” Hasselbeck recalled. “I would have all my friends come out and family come for the preseason –then during the regular season I was just giving my tickets away to teammates. It was a very important time, very stressful time.”

    Of course, Hasselbeck at the time was just fighting to stay in the league. Frye, a former starter for the Browns, is well established as the Seahawks’ third quarterback behind Seneca Wallace.

    This opportunity is more about showing the coaching staff that he can run coach Mike Holmgren’s complex offense with some semblance of continuity – perhaps to give Holmgren more versatility later in the season.

    “Our thing, we’ve been experimenting and looking, is to feel enough confidence in Charlie’s ability to do the job that I can use Seneca in other things,” Holmgren said.

    The Hawks aren’t the only ones who are looking at other quarterbacks. The Bears will start Rex Grossman as coach Lovie Smith tries to determine if Grossman or Kyle Orton is his starting quarterback for the regular season. Smith has said his starters may stay in for more than a half.

    That is not quite what Holmgren has in mind, though his starters will get a little more time than they got last week against the Minnesota Vikings. The third preseason game is when starters get extended time in preparation for the regular-season opener.

    “I expect the guys that played will to continue to improve,” Holmgren said. “Our goal at training camp, whether you’re talking about practice or certainly the games, is to get better every day. You’re not running in place; you’re getting better.”

    One player who wants to impress is running back Julius Jones, who has not gotten as many carries as he would have liked. He expected to start in the team’s scrimmage and was relegated to the sidelines with other veterans. And he expected to start against Minnesota, then got only four carries when Maurice Morris started. Tonight, he will start – finally.

    “When you’re new like I am, in your new offense, you’re still trying to prove yourself,” Jones said. “I got to approach it like it’s a regular game. It’s not a joke for me. I’m going to go out there and take care of business.”

    This also is time for receivers to stand out as they attempt to take over Bobby Engram’s starting flanker spot. Engram is out for six to eight weeks with a broken bone in his right shoulder.

    Courtney Taylor has been preliminarily selected as Engram’s replacement, but a poor showing by him and a strong performance by Ben Obomanu or Logan Payne still could change that dynamic. Payne is playing for the first time since cracking a rib in the team’s scrimmage. He has been wearing a red jersey in practice, delineating that he is not to be hit.

    The kickers will switch roles this week, too. Last week, rookie Brandon Coutu handled the kickoff duties, while veteran Olindo Mare took all the field-goal attempts. As their training camp rivalry continues, they will play to their strengths against the Bears.

    Though punter Ryan Plackemeier returned to practice this week after undergoing surgery for a torn pectoral muscle, he will not punt against Chicago because the team does not want to risk the third-year veteran getting reinjured. Reggie Hodges will get this final chance to show he is NFL caliber, with Plackemeier scheduled to play next week.

    The team does not need to reduce its roster from 80 to 75 until Aug. 26. The 53-man roster will be finalized on Aug. 30.


    CHICAGO (0-1) at SEATTLE (1-0)

    Kickoff: 6 p.m., Qwest Field.

    Television: KONG 6/16. Radio: 710-AM, 97.3-FM.

    The series: Exhibition series tied, 1-1. The teams have not played an exhibition game since 1978, which Seattle won, 16-7. The teams played in the second exhibition game in Seahawks history, a 27-16 Chicago victory at Spokane’s Joe Albi Stadium on Aug. 7, 1976. The teams played during the 2007 regular season, with the Seahawks winning, 30-23, at home on Nov. 18. Seattle holds a 7-3 regular season edge over Chicago, but the Bears won the lone playoff matchup, 27-24, in Chicago in the division playoffs on Jan. 14, 2007.

    What to watch: The Seahawks have not been 2-0 in the exhibition season since 1998. They are treating this game much less seriously than Chicago, which is trying to determine its starting quarterback. Rex Grossman will start, though Kyle Orton may get some reps with the first team as well. Orton started last week. Charlie Frye is likely to start at QB for Seattle; Matt Hasselbeck has a sore back and only had limited participation in Thursday’s practice and is unlikely to play today. Julius Jones will start at RB. DE Patrick Kerney, who had three sacks and a forced fumble in the team’s regular-season meeting last year, will not play. Neither will center Chris Spencer; Steve Vallos will start in his place. Vallos played well last week in Minnesota.